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Concerned dad here, baby about 10 months, worried about autism

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T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:23

Hi everyone. I know this board is called MumsNet, but it seemed like a welcoming place and it was one of the most appealing parenting forums I've found, so I hope a Dad being here is ok!

I'm unfortunately here for some concerns I have with my son. Age adjusted to account for his early birth, he would've just turned 10 months old. However, even with this adjustment, there seems to be a lot of things he's missing/not doing socially that are causing me to have some big concerns.

He is my first child so I don't really have much to judge from, but of course Google already has it set in my mind that he has autism. Another thing worth mentioning is that when he was about 4 months old to about 7 months old, he definitely watched way more TV than a baby should.. he had sitters who would keep YouTube kids videos on for long periods of time, and although he didn't watch them nonstop uninterrupted (he would play in between), I still wonder if that may have done something negative with social development...

So just in general, he is a very busy baby. He is always looking at his surroundings, always exploring toys, always trying to be on the move. He's overall pretty happy. Doesn't have much problems sleeping, eats fine, loves toys, laughs and smiles time to time, etc. He likes our cats, he knows certain songs, he smiles at certain toys. He has never had any of the "standout" red flags, he loves to be held, he doesn't appear to have any major sensory issues, he doesn't use his tip toes when we help him walk around, eye contact can be spotty but is there, he doesn't hyper fixate on one toy or thing. However despite all that, I sadly feel like we are secondary in his life sometimes.

He has pretty much none or at least very very poor joint attention and can't follow my gaze. It's extremely rare that he will look at an item and then look back at me, and back and forth. If I'm carrying him around the house and say an object name and point to it (finger very close to item), he will look at it for a few seconds. But if I point to something further away or gaze at something, he will not follow either. He also has never looked at something and tried to get my attention to get it for him, no pointing, etc. He seems like he's always either completely fixed on the object or on me, but doesn't make a connection that I can get the item for him. He has never shown us a toy when asked, engaged in traditional play with us, tried to do peek a boo back to us. etc. He cries when he wants something or is unhappy, but he has never really tried to point or communicate anything to us yet about what he wants. My wife just chalks all this up to him being more independent minded than most babies, which I suppose is possible, but to me I just wonder.

His eye contact is also so/so. He does make it, and it doesn't appear forced when he does it, but it can be very fleeting. There are rare moments where he'll look into your eyes for long periods of time, like when he's taking a bottle from you or you're singing to him, and maybe some other times. His smiling is also questionable. It's somewhat rare that I can get him to smile without having an interaction with him such as peek a boo or making a big silly face or sound at him, and this didn't always used to be the case (although he will sometimes give a big smile to new people when they enter our house).

When he's not too into his toys, he responds to his name or your voice maybe half the time. He does babble a good deal, but it's not always directly to us. His imitation is very hit or miss. He has waved before, but only properly a handful of times, and he will stop doing it for days at a time. With sounds, he will rarely but sometimes repeat sounds right back to us, he will usually hear them being said and just start making the sounds on his own later. If he sees one of us hit/scratch/touch a surface, that is probably the most successful way he will imitate.

As for positive, he is very receptive to anticipation games. He likes peek a boo, countdowns to being lifted in the air (1..2...3!), and recently his new thing is he loves when we chase him around and announce "I'm gonna get you!", so there is definitely some good word/voice recognition there. He even started coming to look for me sometimes if I hide behind a chair in our dining room, and gets excited when our eyes meet. He will also peek out and look for me if I duck and hide next to his crib. If he's in his playpen or crib and wants to get out, he will crawl over to where we are standing. Certain words and sounds I make get him to giggle too.

I actually compiled a YouTube video of what I see as some of his best/most engaged moments of the last month or so. Feel free to let me know what you think of it if you'd like, maybe you'll tell me I'm crazy and should have no concerns whatsoever!

So if you made it this far, thanks for reading this neurotic, anxious dad's ramble...

Also this is in no way meant to be offensive to anyone with ASD or a child with ASD. I have a sibling with profound, level 3 ASD, and I love her very much... however that genetic link is one of the reasons I am a little more concerned (I've read some people say a child having an aunt/uncle with ASD makes no difference but others say it could double their chances of having it).

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VioletLemon · 17/12/2022 16:33

Dad's welcome! If you don't mind me saying, you sound extremely anxious, that's understandable with first baby and also you sound hypervidulent re ASD. It's common for prem babies to take time to catch up. Some children are still developing joint attention at 5. Don't worry about what's happened in the past, just try to keep yourself calm and relaxed and your baby will respond. Stop measuring every little thing and try to enjoy the basics of simple play, reading stories or touch/feel books, get fresh air and relax.

I couldn't read your whole post, sorry OP, a little too long for my terrible attention span.

T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:35

Thank you for the welcome! Yes, I am an extremely anxious person, absolutely. I just fell into too many Google holes recently and it maybe messed with me.

Thank you, I'm still loving my time with him very much.

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LisaJool · 17/12/2022 16:40

I have a child with ASD and I think you are reading waaaay too much into what he 'isnt' doing. He sounds like a very normal and happy boy. Enjoy him OP and stop go ogling 😁

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titchy · 17/12/2022 16:41

You're expecting him to have the communication skills of a toddler - chill, he's at least six months away from being able to do those things.

MonkeyPuddle · 17/12/2022 16:42

Echoing above. But also don’t put videos of your naked child online, give him some privacy.

MistletoeMouse · 17/12/2022 16:46

Hi there. I think it's possible that your anxiety is allowing you to read too much into every little thing. He seems to me to be a very bright, happy alert child. I notice in the video he is making eye contact quite a bit. (Certainly in the part where your wife is feeding him)

So I can't really see where your big concerns are coming from. I'd totally understand if he was say completely non verbal. So from that perspective, you wouldn't likely be looking at a profound level of ASC from what you've described.

That said, by all means talk to a health visitor ot doctor. It may also he worth exploring whether you have some Autistic traits yourself (due to your anxiety / hyper focus in this instance and family history) I say this as a Mum who was diagnosed later in life with ASC and Dyspraxia - used to be termed High Functioning / Aspergers. I also have an 11 year old daughter who is undergoing diagnosis.

T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:49

Thank you. I made sure his parts were not showing so I honestly didn't even think much of it, but I suppose you're right so I deleted it.

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T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:49

That's interesting and maybe something I could look into. Thank you

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Luredbyapomegranate · 17/12/2022 16:49

He’s very sweet!

Seems totally normal to me. He’s only a baby. Try and manage you anxiety and let him be. There’s no sign of anything amiss.

LT2 · 17/12/2022 16:49

Sounds a lot like my 11 month old. He isn't playing peekaboo back yet, doesn't point - but does all of the same things as your son. We do have a genetic link to ASD but nothing has raised alarm bells yet. I don't think it's unusual to not be pointing and playing back yet.

DocMarteens · 17/12/2022 16:50

Dad - of course welcome to post!

I've got 2 kids with SEND. All I'd say at this point is maybe he will, maybe he won't have ASD but no amount of worrying about it will make any difference. The things you have to worry about happen when you least expect it. Enjoy your child, have fun with them. Take lots of videos for you to cherish in the future when they are being horrible teenagers. If things are looking that sun assessment is needed, save up and get it done when they are still young so if you need to, you can fight their corner.

T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:52

Thank you!

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Cuppasoupmonster · 17/12/2022 16:53

Sounds like a perfectly normal baby to me. Mine didn’t point or wave until 15 months+. Just keep modelling the behaviour and interacting with him and it will come.

Cuppasoupmonster · 17/12/2022 16:53

(DD isn’t autistic by the way)

pamplemoussee · 17/12/2022 16:58

He's too tiny for any diagnosis to be made regarding ASD and I speak as a professional involved in the process

Danikm151 · 17/12/2022 17:07

There’s a reason the don’t asses until 2 years at a minimum. All babies develop at different rates.

just enjoy him and stop googling!

MaisyMary77 · 17/12/2022 17:11

He sounds lovely. Very sweet!

DS, 19, is autistic. At ten months he hated to be held-he’d make himself stiff until we put him down, screamed like a banshee at everything, (the scream was awful, never heard the like) he never got the hang of latching on or bottle feeding, we had to spoon his milk into him.

No eye contact at all, very repetitive play, literally hours and hours with the same toy. He was extremely good at matching games and puzzles. We used to compare him to Data from Star Trek because he was so quick. Initially his speech seemed very forward but then he lost it all around 18 months in a regression. We didn’t actively seek a diagnosis for him, we were pretty clueless! It was a Dr who suggested it when he was about 20 months old. His diagnosis came when he was 2.

Obviously every ASD case is different but I wouldn’t worry too much if I were you.

upfucked · 17/12/2022 17:15

Dad’s are very welcome here.

He sounds completely normal.

You mention lots of concerns about his sight it maybe worth getting this checked out. I would with HV to see if he is outside of normal.

You mention lots of baby sitters and not being happy with their care? Are you feeling guilty about this? I’m saying you should feel guilty.

Daffodilsandtuplips · 17/12/2022 17:16

He seems a typical little 10 month old to me. And from your post he was early?
He’s still so young and babies develop at different rates. Comparison is the thief of joy.
Eye contact is there, he seems interested in his surroundings. I didn’t talk until I was about 18 months and according to mum, once I started I never shut up.
Relax and enjoy your little boy.

MissHavershamReturns · 17/12/2022 17:18

I’m going to go against the majority and say you should get hearing checked as you could be picking up on something. Babies can hear some frequencies but not others if they have glue ear, so hearing difficulties are not always obvious.

Yuzuyu · 17/12/2022 17:21

Hi, he sounds like a normal healthy baby to me. I have a 10 month old son too. He cannot wave, point, follow where I point or play any meaningful games (except he likes to feed me and finds that funny). I have a 4 year old daughter and she was doing more social gestures at his age but she was slower to develop other skills like walking. Don’t stick rigidly to the monthly ‘milestones’ you read on Google. Babies just develop at different rates and it’s way to early to think about diagnosis.

AclowncalledAlice · 17/12/2022 17:36

I wouldn't worry too much at this stage as all babies develop at different rates. Remember...babies don't know what "milestone" they are supposed to reach every month, they haven't read the book.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 17/12/2022 17:39

Dads are very welcome! 😀

My brother is autistic and so is DD1 (diagnosed at 16 after more than 4yrs of waiting). My brother hasn’t had a diagnosis but considers himself on the spectrum and looking at DD1 she’s so like her uncle!

I felt she was ‘different’ from about the time she learnt to crawl but didn’t have the knowledge to know why - if that makes sense.

I appreciate the anxiety but he does sound like he’s doing fine.

If you continue to have worries, speak to your GP ASAP because the waiting lists for a diagnosis are horrendous.

Wishing you and your family all the best OP.

gogohmm · 17/12/2022 17:42

My eldest is autistic, this made us and our medical team (USA, private medicine!) hyper vigilant as dd2 wasn't hitting average milestones, no speech at all at 18 months for instance - but she is not autistic, not even traits, she just developed at her own pace. Try to enjoy your child rather than looking for things that aren't quite on the schedule because there is so much variation, the things you mentioned as all typical for age. I'd love to say your child definitely isn't autistic, but that isn't something anybody can say at that age, but the probability is that he's fine

LeafHunter · 17/12/2022 17:43

get help for your anxiety.

enjoy your baby.

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