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Concerned dad here, baby about 10 months, worried about autism

41 replies

T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:23

Hi everyone. I know this board is called MumsNet, but it seemed like a welcoming place and it was one of the most appealing parenting forums I've found, so I hope a Dad being here is ok!

I'm unfortunately here for some concerns I have with my son. Age adjusted to account for his early birth, he would've just turned 10 months old. However, even with this adjustment, there seems to be a lot of things he's missing/not doing socially that are causing me to have some big concerns.

He is my first child so I don't really have much to judge from, but of course Google already has it set in my mind that he has autism. Another thing worth mentioning is that when he was about 4 months old to about 7 months old, he definitely watched way more TV than a baby should.. he had sitters who would keep YouTube kids videos on for long periods of time, and although he didn't watch them nonstop uninterrupted (he would play in between), I still wonder if that may have done something negative with social development...

So just in general, he is a very busy baby. He is always looking at his surroundings, always exploring toys, always trying to be on the move. He's overall pretty happy. Doesn't have much problems sleeping, eats fine, loves toys, laughs and smiles time to time, etc. He likes our cats, he knows certain songs, he smiles at certain toys. He has never had any of the "standout" red flags, he loves to be held, he doesn't appear to have any major sensory issues, he doesn't use his tip toes when we help him walk around, eye contact can be spotty but is there, he doesn't hyper fixate on one toy or thing. However despite all that, I sadly feel like we are secondary in his life sometimes.

He has pretty much none or at least very very poor joint attention and can't follow my gaze. It's extremely rare that he will look at an item and then look back at me, and back and forth. If I'm carrying him around the house and say an object name and point to it (finger very close to item), he will look at it for a few seconds. But if I point to something further away or gaze at something, he will not follow either. He also has never looked at something and tried to get my attention to get it for him, no pointing, etc. He seems like he's always either completely fixed on the object or on me, but doesn't make a connection that I can get the item for him. He has never shown us a toy when asked, engaged in traditional play with us, tried to do peek a boo back to us. etc. He cries when he wants something or is unhappy, but he has never really tried to point or communicate anything to us yet about what he wants. My wife just chalks all this up to him being more independent minded than most babies, which I suppose is possible, but to me I just wonder.

His eye contact is also so/so. He does make it, and it doesn't appear forced when he does it, but it can be very fleeting. There are rare moments where he'll look into your eyes for long periods of time, like when he's taking a bottle from you or you're singing to him, and maybe some other times. His smiling is also questionable. It's somewhat rare that I can get him to smile without having an interaction with him such as peek a boo or making a big silly face or sound at him, and this didn't always used to be the case (although he will sometimes give a big smile to new people when they enter our house).

When he's not too into his toys, he responds to his name or your voice maybe half the time. He does babble a good deal, but it's not always directly to us. His imitation is very hit or miss. He has waved before, but only properly a handful of times, and he will stop doing it for days at a time. With sounds, he will rarely but sometimes repeat sounds right back to us, he will usually hear them being said and just start making the sounds on his own later. If he sees one of us hit/scratch/touch a surface, that is probably the most successful way he will imitate.

As for positive, he is very receptive to anticipation games. He likes peek a boo, countdowns to being lifted in the air (1..2...3!), and recently his new thing is he loves when we chase him around and announce "I'm gonna get you!", so there is definitely some good word/voice recognition there. He even started coming to look for me sometimes if I hide behind a chair in our dining room, and gets excited when our eyes meet. He will also peek out and look for me if I duck and hide next to his crib. If he's in his playpen or crib and wants to get out, he will crawl over to where we are standing. Certain words and sounds I make get him to giggle too.

I actually compiled a YouTube video of what I see as some of his best/most engaged moments of the last month or so. Feel free to let me know what you think of it if you'd like, maybe you'll tell me I'm crazy and should have no concerns whatsoever!

So if you made it this far, thanks for reading this neurotic, anxious dad's ramble...

Also this is in no way meant to be offensive to anyone with ASD or a child with ASD. I have a sibling with profound, level 3 ASD, and I love her very much... however that genetic link is one of the reasons I am a little more concerned (I've read some people say a child having an aunt/uncle with ASD makes no difference but others say it could double their chances of having it).

OP posts:
OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 17/12/2022 18:29

Don’t fret, my eldest has asd, at 10 months he was the cuddliest, chattiest, engaged baby. Met all targets, eye contact, loving and tactile. It wasn’t until he was about 6 that traits started showing. Just enjoy him, keep a watchful but calm eye on him. And please don’t post naked pics of him anywhere.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/12/2022 18:36

Mum of a child with SEN here.

What would you do differently if you knew? What would you add or take away? If the answer to those two questions is 'nothing' then why worry? I suspect the answer is that you have some unmet needs rather than your child. You need to find a way to address those.

Just enjoy your baby. DD didn't get a diagnosis for years and I wouldn't have done anything differently.

DiamondApricot · 17/12/2022 19:06

Sounds exactly like my boy 6 months ago, he's 15 months now and doing all those things you're worried about.
They change so so fast, he sounds absolutely fine, enjoy him while he's so little (and doesn't sprint away from you at every nappy change!)

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Cuppasoupmonster · 17/12/2022 19:18

I have to say I think sites like mumsnet are scaring parents half to death with ‘signs’ of SEN. This is the third or fourth thread I’ve seen this week by a concerned parent of a very young and typical sounding baby.

Notanotherone6 · 17/12/2022 19:27

He sounds like a perfectly normal baby. Please try not to analyse every little thing that he does or doesn't do because it'll only add to your anxiety levels. Just enjoy him.

HotPenguin · 17/12/2022 19:30

I would suggest speaking to the health visitor, they know what is normal at this age and they might also suggest checking hearing, eyesight etc if you are concerned. It's worth following up because if there is a problem with eg eyesight it might be solved with glasses and finding it early will help his development.

DaisyDaisyDoesHe · 17/12/2022 19:36

Have you had the 7-11 month development assessment by the health visitor? They will be able to advise whether the baby is achieving the different categories and whether they have concerns.

surreygirl1987 · 17/12/2022 19:44

He sounds wonderful and can't see any red flags there at all.

I had health anxiety with my eldest son when he was born, and spent most of his first year freaking out and constantly googling. You sound like how I felt. I'd do a bit of research into that instead, as that might help.

surreygirl1987 · 17/12/2022 19:47

What would you do differently if you knew? What would you add or take away? If the answer to those two questions is 'nothing' then why worry?

This is a very good point. I have a 4 year old who may have ASD. Nursery have said they think there's 'something there' but can't tell at the moment for sure. Although I was freaking about my son when he was born, I'm okay with the prospect of him not being NT now. He's a lovely little boy and a label won't change that.

HelsyQ · 17/12/2022 19:50

Oh my gosh you’re reading WAY to much into this. They rarely diagnose children before school age as many symptoms could just be usual toddler stuff just exacerbated.

10 months is to early to be concerned about autism. My 4th DS is not dissimilar to your son and he is 11 months old and has an autistic older brother but honestly I’m not worried at this stage. Just enjoy your baby for now, there’s nothing you can do about this for years any way so stop worrying.

also DS1, 11, who has autism is the most incredible, funny, wonderful, unique person. His autism is a beautiful gift that I’m grateful for every day (Now that I’ve learnt his routines and ways).

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/12/2022 21:05

He's a lovely little boy and a label won't change that.

@surreygirl1987 you are so right. The worrying just makes you miss the wonderful right in front of you.

cakedelights · 17/12/2022 22:30

Its normal to fret as a first time dad !!! I think at 10 months it's too early to detect signs of Autism. Normally wrong 2 years old small signs start to appear such as walking on tip toes, no response to name being called out & they love only playing with bright coloured and sensory toys. Please don't worry too much & just enjoy parenting!

Wwwomble · 17/12/2022 22:51

I’m going to go against the grain here. Not because I think your child has asd- I have no idea one way or the other because my children are too old now for me to remember what they ‘should’ or ‘shouldn’t’ be doing- but because I felt like you do once.

I posted a similar post to yours when my ds was about 12 months old. The concerns were probably different, but the feeling was the same. I found it massively unhelpful and isolating to be told that it was all my anxiety, that he was too young, and that it was all in my head.

I also have a relative with profound asd, which I know increased my fears for my child, in a way that some posters perhaps can’t appreciate.

Having said all that, I also agree with the pp who says, really, what would you do differently? I spent far too many hours down the internet rabbit hole of early intervention. In the end, most of it boils down to interacting with your child as much as possible. You are doing that. If your child doesn’t have asd, great. If he does, you aren’t hiding from it and that’s a great start for any help he might need as he grows.

Chzm · 07/06/2024 10:15

T0nyG · 17/12/2022 16:23

Hi everyone. I know this board is called MumsNet, but it seemed like a welcoming place and it was one of the most appealing parenting forums I've found, so I hope a Dad being here is ok!

I'm unfortunately here for some concerns I have with my son. Age adjusted to account for his early birth, he would've just turned 10 months old. However, even with this adjustment, there seems to be a lot of things he's missing/not doing socially that are causing me to have some big concerns.

He is my first child so I don't really have much to judge from, but of course Google already has it set in my mind that he has autism. Another thing worth mentioning is that when he was about 4 months old to about 7 months old, he definitely watched way more TV than a baby should.. he had sitters who would keep YouTube kids videos on for long periods of time, and although he didn't watch them nonstop uninterrupted (he would play in between), I still wonder if that may have done something negative with social development...

So just in general, he is a very busy baby. He is always looking at his surroundings, always exploring toys, always trying to be on the move. He's overall pretty happy. Doesn't have much problems sleeping, eats fine, loves toys, laughs and smiles time to time, etc. He likes our cats, he knows certain songs, he smiles at certain toys. He has never had any of the "standout" red flags, he loves to be held, he doesn't appear to have any major sensory issues, he doesn't use his tip toes when we help him walk around, eye contact can be spotty but is there, he doesn't hyper fixate on one toy or thing. However despite all that, I sadly feel like we are secondary in his life sometimes.

He has pretty much none or at least very very poor joint attention and can't follow my gaze. It's extremely rare that he will look at an item and then look back at me, and back and forth. If I'm carrying him around the house and say an object name and point to it (finger very close to item), he will look at it for a few seconds. But if I point to something further away or gaze at something, he will not follow either. He also has never looked at something and tried to get my attention to get it for him, no pointing, etc. He seems like he's always either completely fixed on the object or on me, but doesn't make a connection that I can get the item for him. He has never shown us a toy when asked, engaged in traditional play with us, tried to do peek a boo back to us. etc. He cries when he wants something or is unhappy, but he has never really tried to point or communicate anything to us yet about what he wants. My wife just chalks all this up to him being more independent minded than most babies, which I suppose is possible, but to me I just wonder.

His eye contact is also so/so. He does make it, and it doesn't appear forced when he does it, but it can be very fleeting. There are rare moments where he'll look into your eyes for long periods of time, like when he's taking a bottle from you or you're singing to him, and maybe some other times. His smiling is also questionable. It's somewhat rare that I can get him to smile without having an interaction with him such as peek a boo or making a big silly face or sound at him, and this didn't always used to be the case (although he will sometimes give a big smile to new people when they enter our house).

When he's not too into his toys, he responds to his name or your voice maybe half the time. He does babble a good deal, but it's not always directly to us. His imitation is very hit or miss. He has waved before, but only properly a handful of times, and he will stop doing it for days at a time. With sounds, he will rarely but sometimes repeat sounds right back to us, he will usually hear them being said and just start making the sounds on his own later. If he sees one of us hit/scratch/touch a surface, that is probably the most successful way he will imitate.

As for positive, he is very receptive to anticipation games. He likes peek a boo, countdowns to being lifted in the air (1..2...3!), and recently his new thing is he loves when we chase him around and announce "I'm gonna get you!", so there is definitely some good word/voice recognition there. He even started coming to look for me sometimes if I hide behind a chair in our dining room, and gets excited when our eyes meet. He will also peek out and look for me if I duck and hide next to his crib. If he's in his playpen or crib and wants to get out, he will crawl over to where we are standing. Certain words and sounds I make get him to giggle too.

I actually compiled a YouTube video of what I see as some of his best/most engaged moments of the last month or so. Feel free to let me know what you think of it if you'd like, maybe you'll tell me I'm crazy and should have no concerns whatsoever!

So if you made it this far, thanks for reading this neurotic, anxious dad's ramble...

Also this is in no way meant to be offensive to anyone with ASD or a child with ASD. I have a sibling with profound, level 3 ASD, and I love her very much... however that genetic link is one of the reasons I am a little more concerned (I've read some people say a child having an aunt/uncle with ASD makes no difference but others say it could double their chances of having it).

Hey OP, how is your baby now?

thismummydrinksgin · 07/06/2024 10:26

I was anxious and my kids picked up on it looking back. My advice would be to try to relax and enjoy him, then the baby will relax too x

Chzm · 09/06/2024 00:31

@T0nyG didn't tag you so thought I'd try again with the above! Thanks

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