Would you give these processes food items to a one year old

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1. Baked beans
2. Tinned tuna
3. Ham
4. Salami
5. Chips
6. Ketchup or other sauces
7. Shop bought bread
8. Fruit yogurt
9. Cheerios

10 fish fingers 11. Cheese (usually slices something like cheddar or mozarella)

I had more items I wasn't sure about so might add to this thread later when I remember. For context my toddler is 14 months and we have baked beans and fish fingers aboutq once every two weeks. He's had tinned tuna and chips once and fruit yogurt a couple of times but really liked these. He has bread or toast pretty much every day, sometimes several times a day. He hasn't had any of the other items but has been eyeing them when older DC has them. he doesn't have any problems with gaining weight. On the contrary (but that's another thread).

Also when did you let your child start having take away or restaurant food?

Yes to all!

1. Baked beans yes
2. Tinned tuna yes
3. Ham no
4. Salami no
5. Chips no
6. Ketchup or other sauces no
7. Shop bought bread yes
8. Fruit yogurt yes
9. Cheerios no

10 fish fingers yes 11. Cheese (usually slices something like cheddar or mozarella) no

Only wouldn't give a one year old numbers 4 and 6 here.

Baked beans - yea

1. Tinned tuna - no, but due to allergy.
2. Ham - it’s not something we eat as a family, she can have elsewhere though.

1. Salami - again, not something we eat.
2. Chips - yep.
3. Ketchup or other sauces - yep.

1. Shop bought bread - yep.
2. Fruit yogurt - yep, I buy the big packs of small fromage Frais.
3. Cheerios - not something we eat.

10 fish fingers - no due to allergy.

11. Cheese (usually slices something like cheddar or mozarella) - she’ll eat any cheese she can get her chubby little paws on. We usually use extra mature cheddar.

I don’t add salt to cooking or have it at the table.

I'm on DS number 3 and when they can see the older one eating it it's hard not too so I think they've each had these at younger ages! BUT I buy the best I can so

No added sugar beans
Naked Ham (no nitrates)
No salt or sugar ketchup
Plain full fat Greek yoghurt (buy buckets of it from aldi!!) then add a squirt of the baby fruit pouches for flavour - no added sugar like many 'kids' yoghurts
Granary sliced bread - no white
Fish fingers containing omega 3
Tuna in spring water (not fans anyway in my house)
Alpha bears plain cereal which has agave instead of processed sugar like cheerios but we have a thing where they get the multigrain Rice Krispies sugary shapes in school holidays!!

These generally can cost a little more so can be tricky at present but I try my best! (Except the yoghurt which saves loads and mine eat tons of!!)

They have McDonald's/pizza sometimes as takeaway.

Don't add salt to anything really but do use things like pasta sauces/curry pastes which must contain them I guess!! Just do the best you can I say! Don't worry about a treat now and then.

Yes to all. Never add salt to DS's food (3).

Bread and cheese, yes.

Ham and baked beans, once in a while.

The rest, no. I'm only averse to baked beans because of the amount of sugar in the sauce.

We actually tried to give him a takeaway the other week for the first time, as a special treat - it was only a few plain chips and a chicken leg. He wouldn't touch it!

Anything with added salt I tried to avoid unless a staple like bread, cheese, butter.
Avoided cheap processed food, especially chicken nuggets, for ethical reasons.
Never added salt to food at any point. Still mostly don't and they're all grown up now.
At a restaurant they'd have whatever they chose.

Tinned tuna in water, not brine, is an excellent source of nutrition.

I don't think I would have given my 1yo (now 2yo) salami but he had all the other things. The only thing I worry about a bit is ham (he loves it, and it's so easy in a sandwich) and Cheerios (his favourite breakfast).

All the others I really can't get worked up about, although I guess I try to mitigate the downsides a bit eg I buy the lower sugar/salt baked beans always. Oven chips not chip shop chips or fries. A blob of ketchup if I know it means he'll eat his broccoli (he dips!). "Shop bought bread" errmmm yes, but mostly wholemeal. Tiny pots of yog. I buy fresh fish goujons or the chunkier fish fingers where you can actually detect the presence of fish rather than that weird grey mush you get in bog standard fingers. Loads of cheddar.

If you add in regular home cooked veggie heavy meals and loads of fresh fruit I really don't think that's much to worry about.

yes
not sure why any of those things would be considered controversial as long as you’re weren’t feeding them salami slices covered in ketchup for breakfast every day

Baked beans - yes protein and fibre

1. Tinned tuna - no, not recommended until over 2 due to mercury (solid starts app)
2. Ham yes
3. Salami no
4. Chips yes
5. Ketchup or other sauces no
6. Shop bought bread of course yes
7. Fruit yogurt yes
8. Cheerios no full of sugar

10 fish fingers yes only birdseye 11. Cheese (usually slices something like cheddar or mozarella) yes

Could You tell me more about the deli sliced meats? What does formed mean or deli sliced? My (older) DD loves ham and salami so I'd be very happy if I could get healthier versions of them. I'm a vegetarian so don't know much about meat

formed ham is the majority of your packet ham. If you read the small print, even in the “premium” brands.

it’s basically all the off cuts minced up with a solution of salt/phosphates/flavourings/sugars/preservatives etc, squished together and “formed” into ham then sliced.

if you go to a deli, butcher, even a counter in a supermarket you can get proper joints of ham, dry cured or cooked. They’ll slice you off the required amount. It is fairly easy to make your own from a gammon joint, my aunt used to do it and it’s the best result. I am not organised enough, veggie, and a crap chef 😂.

Basically try and get your meat from a local butcher, farm shop, or delicatessen. You’ll pay more, but it’ll be better quality, usually more ethical, and less processed. Meat is the one thing it’s worth being particular about it’s origins IMO- especially after I learned about formed ham!

I don't add salt to anything I cook for my toddlers, but they get salt in things like bread, olives, pesto etc.

1. Baked beans - I gave them to my twins once. One tasted them and was disgusted, the other twin liked them. Haven't given them again.
2. Tinned tuna - yes, tuna in spring water
3. Ham - I do give this, but based on previous comments, I will look for deli-sliced rather than formed
4. Salami - they had it once at a party
5. Chips - they've had these once or twice at a party
6. Ketchup or other sauces - no
7. Shop bought bread - yes, wholemeal / tiger loaf
8. Fruit yogurt - no. Plain Greek yoghurt, and I add mashed banana and strawberries
9. Cheerios - no

10 fish fingers - no. But they had adult fish goujons the other day, so am meaning to look for "healthy" fish fingers with a good % of fish 11. Cheese (usually slices something like cheddar or mozarella) - yes. I didn't realise cheddar slices were less healthy than the block of cheddar

Same. As for takeaway or restaurant food, very much dependant on where we've got it from and what it is. So plain chips with no salt, or tomato pasta - both fine. Or anything that I'd need to add salt to tbh

Special fried rice or mighty meaty pizza from dominoes - no as the salt would be too high imo.

Why wouldn't you? 🤷‍♀️ obviously not at every meal, and veg and fruit is obviously needed too, but in moderation I don't see the problem!

I would seriously limit processed meats like salami and if you’re giving bread every day then it needs to be real bread (flour, yeast and water) and not the highly processed stuff you buy in supermarkets.

My kids ate all that ( although the salty things were limited ) and I never made special food for them - we had curry or bolognaise or roast - so did they from about 7/8 months old. Takeaways too! As a busy working family we sometimes had to get them and from the Turkish place they would have chicken kebabs and a handful of chips . It’s literally seasoned grilled chicken breast , salad and yogurt sauce - why wouldn’t you?
I used to freeze pots of their favourites like mash potatoes and risotto and beef stew to heat up sometimes for a homemade ready meal but this was balanced with some convenience food and takeaways . They appear physically and mentally robust humans . Will do very similar for my grandchild in a few months when she’s ready for solids .
I think the NHS guidelines are very much an idiots guide to feeding children . They are there for those who would Chuck a cheeseburger or a doner and chips infront of a toddler every night . Most of us can just apply a bit of common sense and balance the odd processed meal with otherwise healthy stuff . So long as they enjoy their fruit and veg and you’re watching the salt then it’s fine .

I would seriously limit processed meats like salami and if you’re giving bread every day then it needs to be real bread (flour, yeast and water) and not the highly processed stuff you buy in supermarkets

the positive with “shop bought” bread is it’s fortified with vitamins etc. So as part of an otherwise healthy diet a couple of slices a day isn’t going to be an issue.

let’s face it as well most people don’t want to be making home made bread from scratch every day.

Yes to all as part of a balanced varied diet. I don't believe in restricting any kind of food. 27 month old is a fantastic eater, demolishes everything now.

If you are ever not sure of a food look here - solidstarts.com/foods/

Its a database written by paediatricians and qualified dieticians with every food you can think of. You can see at the bottom links to peer reviewed studies and the doctors who have written it and their qualifications.

For what it’s worth, they recommend cheerios as a balanced cereal because of the higher nutrient content than other cereals! solidstarts.com/foods/cheerios/

Yes to all of them except cheerios, have never bought them. Never worried too much about salt. Kids are fine.

My friends all cook from scratch every meal

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They really don't

Yes to all except ketchup, but other than bread and cheese I wouldn't give the others more than once or twice a week. Salami once in a blue moon as well.

I was quite strict about no salt/sugar until she turned 1. Now I add a small amount of salt to her food when cooking and she definitely appreciates her meals not being so bland!

Personally I have:

• Baked beans one or twice

1. Tinned tuna yes
2. Ham as a one off
3. Salami nope
4. Chips homemade
5. Ketchup or other sauces nope
6. Shop bought bread yes (there's low sugar and salt options)
7. Fruit yogurt no
8. Cheerios yes

10 fish fingers no 11. Cheese (usually slices something like cheddar or mozarella) blocks of cheese yes, not processed

I agree with @mmmflakycrust81, food shouldn’t be restricted. Does my son have ketchup and chips everyday, no. Is he banned from having those things, no. The only things (that I can think of at 6am) that he specifically doesn’t have is alcohol, caffeine and due to choking, nuts and boiled sweets.