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Dog at school and child with phobia

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LittleMissMe99 · 29/09/2022 19:50

In my daughters school they have a wellbeing area where all children can go. If they're upset, lonely, just want a chat etc. Really lovely idea I think and works very well. My daughter who is 11 (just started secondary school) won't go because they have a dog and she is terrified of them. Full blown phobia There have been occasions when she has been alone at lunch time and wanted to go there (where there are other kids in a similar situation). But she's too scared. She's a very shy and anxious child and will not tell them shes afraid of dogs. I'm wondering should I mention it to the school? They won't get rid of the dog because of one student will they? What would you do?

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isittheholidaysyet · 30/09/2022 18:28

There must be some way of supporting the children's wellbeing without the presence of a dog.
Some children have allergies, some are scared, some see them as impure etc etc.
And some just won't like them or want to be around them.

So I would tell the school. They need to know.

I'm not scared of dogs,but I really dislike them and often choose not to be near them.

Spanielsarepainless · 30/09/2022 18:28

I would bring it up with the school. But the phobia needs addressing as she will meet all sorts of dogs doing their jobs as she gets older, and won't be in a position to have them relocated.

BruceHellerAlmighty · 30/09/2022 18:30

Hopefully those dogs she encounters in future life won't be in areas designated for her wellbeing though.

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Hugasauras · 30/09/2022 18:30

Maybe see if there's any advice from the dog handler? If it's a registered therapy pet it will be very calm and might be a good introduction to be around dogs? Perhaps a session one to one or something?

BruceHellerAlmighty · 30/09/2022 18:31

Hugasauras · 30/09/2022 18:30

Maybe see if there's any advice from the dog handler? If it's a registered therapy pet it will be very calm and might be a good introduction to be around dogs? Perhaps a session one to one or something?

Sounds like a lot of effort for OP and her daughter.

Just move the bloody dog.

Undisclosedlocation · 30/09/2022 18:32

near me (south east) there is a Cynophobia class run to help children overcome this fear with specially trained, calm dogs. They have very good results.
might be worth a Google to find out if you are near somewhere that does these

lavendermouse · 30/09/2022 19:06

Saucery · 30/09/2022 13:51

A dog that is trained to be in a support area of the school is just about the best dog your dd could be meeting to help address her phobia. So I would certainly contact the school and ask for a plan of gradual exposure to the dog, which will be behaving well and calmly and will show your dd how most dogs behave,

This 100%
My son had an awful fear of dogs, it really did make even doing the school run hard. Once he ran into the road to avoid a dog who was walking towards us.
We bought a puppy two years ago. The fear has disappeared altogether. He can walk past any dog now without jumping out of his skin.

Boomboom22 · 30/09/2022 19:11

It must smell horrific in the wellbeing area now. I wouldn't find it calming, unhygienic and revolting yes. But dog people don't get it so if the slt love dogs then that's it really.

cansu · 30/09/2022 19:15

I think you should let them know. There will be ways to manage this. Our school has a dog in sometimes. It is clear that the dog is always on a lead and with a staff member. If there were children who dislike dogs, he would be kept well away. Your dd should be able to access the area and the dog could be moved elsewhere whilst she does so. It will just mean that she will need to get a member of staff to let them know when she needs to go in.

Forfukzsake · 30/09/2022 19:17

I love dogs and always have at least one but I don't agree with having them in schools or workplaces. People should be free to go to their place of employment or education on a daily basis without fear.

Imissmoominmama · 30/09/2022 19:19

I’m a PA to a young adult who had a real fear of dogs. I used to have to shut mine away when she came round. Gradually, we spent time outside with them just mooching round the garden whilst we sat and had a drink. Now, our dog is always by her side, and she always has one hand on the dog’s head. Her parents are over the moon, as the phobia had made life really difficult at times. Her brother now has a dog too, which she loves.

Well trained dogs will not fuss or jump up.

I’ve worked in a behavioural school with a rescue greyhound. He was an invaluable asset.

Most schools go for poodle type crosses, to reduce the risk of allergies. They will also be aware of children who are allergic.

Please tell the school that your daughter is scared, then they can tread very carefully with regard to the dog.

bellac11 · 30/09/2022 19:19

Kumri · 29/09/2022 23:34

Dogs are banned from all the schools round here, including playground areas, out of consideration for children who are (quite rationally!) scared of them.

I would explain the situation to the school and say obviously this is a problem, what are you going to do about it? The obvious solution seems to me that the dog should be in the head’s office or somewhere else away from children.

What would they do if a child needed a guide dog?

Prawnandcrocktail · 30/09/2022 19:20

When a dog is in school it has be be fully assessed, so will be very placid and well trained. This would seem like a perfect way to help with you daughter’s phobia. A calm dog in a controlled situation is very different to a dog outside where it might run over to your child and scare her. Definitely mention the issue and se what solutions are offered. She can’t avoid dogs all her life and what a great way to build her confidence.

bluebellcushion · 30/09/2022 19:20

Forfukzsake · 30/09/2022 19:17

I love dogs and always have at least one but I don't agree with having them in schools or workplaces. People should be free to go to their place of employment or education on a daily basis without fear.

Totally agree.

And it's not just about fear.

I personally think dogs are revolting, unhygienic, smelly, slobbery, dirty, noisy, disruptive animals and I have never once understood why anyone would want them as a pet. I have no desire to share any space with them.

Also, What if you were allergic?

cherry2727 · 30/09/2022 19:20

I don't like dogs and would be very unhappy if there was one in my workplace op! There are places for dogs and I don't understand the purpose of one being in a school or workplace unless it's being used as a guide dog? Is the dog here to learn or teach? I'd raise it with the school!

bellac11 · 30/09/2022 19:23

GrimmTales · 30/09/2022 13:58

I’m curious about what pupils who come from cultures which see dogs as impure are meant to do. Can they access the safe space zone? Or is it that the dog has a useful purpose in that setting and isn’t a pet, so that is acceptable? Or the dog has to be outside and not inside?

What cultures are they?

bellac11 · 30/09/2022 19:25

Goldbar · 30/09/2022 17:27

But why is it necessary to encounter all these situations with dogs if you don't like them? It should be possible for most people pretty much to go through their lives unbothered by dogs so long as owners keep them under control.

So all her friends and boyfriends will be chosen on the basis of whether they have a dog or not

She wont have any jobs that involve home visiting

She wouldnt work with someone who has a guide dog

A third of households have dogs.

Hugasauras · 30/09/2022 19:49

@BruceHellerAlmighty The thing is, dogs are everywhere, and a phobia of dogs as opposed to an dislike is something that is worth the effort to fix.

Thinking about the things we have done in the past week or so where we have encountered dogs:

  • Community gala day at park, lots of dogs
  • Farmers market, lots of dogs
  • Dog lives on path to nursery and sometimes is out and about with owner
  • Beach with dogs
  • Dog left outside local shop
  • Many of DD's friends have dogs at home

And so on. If someone has a phobia of dogs, which are in so many places, it must severely limit their enjoyment of life. So yes, I do think it's worth making the effort to do something about it.

MissMaple82 · 30/09/2022 20:05

I should hope they wouldn't get Rod of the dog because of one students problem!!

MissMaple82 · 30/09/2022 20:08

As a mother you need to help her deal with her somewhat inappropriate phobia, how is she going to successfully navigate through her life being petrified of dogs?!

CrossStichQueen · 30/09/2022 20:09

What a suprise the OP has not returned after the first post that's happening a lot lately.

Dollydea · 30/09/2022 20:18

Phone the school & explain her phobia and why she might be reluctant to enter the area that the dog is in, but at the end of the day you can't expect them to get rid of the dog for the sake of one pupil when it no doubt helps countless others

We had an amazing learning mentor in our secondary school, her guide dog accompanied her everywhere. There was over 1000 pupils in the school, many from cultures where dogs are often seen as "impure" yet I never heard a single complaint about her or her lovely dog.

Try & help DD with her phobia, dogs are everywhere these days, she'll struggle in life not wanting to enter a room where there's a dog.

WoooahNelly · 30/09/2022 20:22

Dogs don't belong in a school

alfagirl73 · 30/09/2022 20:25

I do think it would be a good idea to get your DD help to overcome her phobia - this could actually be the ideal opportunity to tackle it. She doesn't have to love dogs - but it could get rid of the fear so she can at least live her life without worrying about it. As much as one can take reasonable steps to avoid contact with dogs generally, they are a significant feature in society. You can get on a bus or a train, go into work or go just about anywhere and encounter someone with a guide dog or other service dog. Again, your DD doesn't have to particularly like or love dogs - but it is important to be able to be in the same space as one without being terrified as you cannot always control when or where she might encounter a dog.

drpet49 · 30/09/2022 20:28

Hugasauras · 30/09/2022 19:49

@BruceHellerAlmighty The thing is, dogs are everywhere, and a phobia of dogs as opposed to an dislike is something that is worth the effort to fix.

Thinking about the things we have done in the past week or so where we have encountered dogs:

  • Community gala day at park, lots of dogs
  • Farmers market, lots of dogs
  • Dog lives on path to nursery and sometimes is out and about with owner
  • Beach with dogs
  • Dog left outside local shop
  • Many of DD's friends have dogs at home

And so on. If someone has a phobia of dogs, which are in so many places, it must severely limit their enjoyment of life. So yes, I do think it's worth making the effort to do something about it.

Completely agree