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Baby fruit pouches

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mummy2903 · 10/08/2022 20:31

I have started giving my 4 month old fruity pouches and would like to know why some are for 4month plus and some for 7 month plus babies . If it is just pure fruit why would it be for different age range.

could i not just blend my own banana's and peaches for her ?

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MajorCarolDanvers · 10/08/2022 23:01

Housenoob · 10/08/2022 23:00

@MajorCarolDanvers shit sorry I completely misread and thought I was quoting jammie, ignore me

No worries.

mummy2903 · 10/08/2022 23:02

Yep thats what i have been doing i can tell she just wanted milk . And to whoever said to me that i think im a baby whisperer i think any mother knows their childs needs.
And fyi i figured this out as when id poor sterile water on a dummy to refresh it shed really act like she enjoys it more and looks like shes enjoying the remaining water left on it ...

Thank u very much

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Housenoob · 10/08/2022 23:02

@MajorCarolDanvers I actually agree with your points lol

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mummy2903 · 10/08/2022 23:03

I mean she didnt just want milk

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MolliciousIntent · 10/08/2022 23:07

mummy2903 · 10/08/2022 23:03

I mean she didnt just want milk

I'm assuming because she's formula fed. FF babies sometimes need a little bit of cooled, boiled water in very hot weather.

It's not necessary for BF babies because your body adapts to give them everything they need.

This is all on the NHS website, cooled boiled water for FF babies in hot weather, none for BF babies.

fyn · 10/08/2022 23:12

This link can give you an idea of when babies are ready for weaning to prevent choking and contains peer reviewed studies on why it is best to wait - solidstarts.com/starting-solids/readiness/. This is also a good resource to understanding how ‘baby food’ was invented and the impacts of weaning on sweet purées solidstarts.com/baby-led-weaning/history-of-baby-food/.

smartiesnskittles · 10/08/2022 23:13

Save yourself a fortune (in time and money)
and do baby led weaning at 6 months.

They sell them for financial gain. Because parents are not confident feeding their kids real food (especially early at 4 months.)

They are not healthy.

Thejoyfulstar · 10/08/2022 23:30

Op I think you got a lot of harsh comments. How are people supposed to reach out for advice when they are treated like total idiots for doing so?

The recommendation is to wait until a baby is 6 months old. There are certain circumstances when a baby will need to be weaned onto solid foods at 4 months and this will usually be for medical reasons and under the supervision of a doctor. As some babies might have to be weaned at 4 months, the food companies can legally advertise the food as being suitable for babies aged 4-6 months. It's a cheeky little loophole.

It is illegal for formula companies to advertise formula for babies under 6 months. Hey presto, along comes a second second stage formula that the companies can market. If you think about breastmilk, which formula is supposed to roughly replicate, it doesn't magically change when the baby is 6 months old. So, you can continue with Stage 1 if you wish. You can also give a little cooled boiled water to formula fed babies.

Take advice from everyone with a pinch of salt. Older people can have great wisdom but can also advise the most bonkers ideas! The NHS info is pretty clear and generally up to date so arm yourself with that info.

Thejoyfulstar · 10/08/2022 23:34

smartiesnskittles · 10/08/2022 23:13

Save yourself a fortune (in time and money)
and do baby led weaning at 6 months.

They sell them for financial gain. Because parents are not confident feeding their kids real food (especially early at 4 months.)

They are not healthy.

The pouches are literally just fruit with naturally occurring sugars. Do you not allow your children to eat fruit as they get older? Genuine question. I boiled some apple pieces in water and mashed it the other day for my baby then gave her a fruit pouch the following day. What was the difference? Am honestly curious.

BLW is a total pain and quite wasteful IMO. It just all ends up on the floor!

MolliciousIntent · 10/08/2022 23:47

@Thejoyfulstar did she have the puree on a spoon, or straight from the pouch?

Thejoyfulstar · 10/08/2022 23:50

@MolliciousIntent I poured a bit into a bowl and gave it to her with a spoon.

MolliciousIntent · 10/08/2022 23:53

@Thejoyfulstar that's ok then - the issue with pouches is that they are soooo smooth that they coat the teeth and the sugar just sits there, same as juice. The impact is worse if you eat them straight from the pouch, just as juice is more damaging drunk through a straw, as it's directed straight at the teeth.

Homemade purées are much lumpier usually so they don't coat the teeth in the same way.

SmartCar · 10/08/2022 23:56

Isn't the 4 months one smaller than the 7 months ones? Think that's pretty much the only difference no?

mummy2903 · 11/08/2022 00:05

Thejoyfulstar · 10/08/2022 23:30

Op I think you got a lot of harsh comments. How are people supposed to reach out for advice when they are treated like total idiots for doing so?

The recommendation is to wait until a baby is 6 months old. There are certain circumstances when a baby will need to be weaned onto solid foods at 4 months and this will usually be for medical reasons and under the supervision of a doctor. As some babies might have to be weaned at 4 months, the food companies can legally advertise the food as being suitable for babies aged 4-6 months. It's a cheeky little loophole.

It is illegal for formula companies to advertise formula for babies under 6 months. Hey presto, along comes a second second stage formula that the companies can market. If you think about breastmilk, which formula is supposed to roughly replicate, it doesn't magically change when the baby is 6 months old. So, you can continue with Stage 1 if you wish. You can also give a little cooled boiled water to formula fed babies.

Take advice from everyone with a pinch of salt. Older people can have great wisdom but can also advise the most bonkers ideas! The NHS info is pretty clear and generally up to date so arm yourself with that info.

Thank you. I appreciate this :)

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Thejoyfulstar · 11/08/2022 00:11

MolliciousIntent · 10/08/2022 23:53

@Thejoyfulstar that's ok then - the issue with pouches is that they are soooo smooth that they coat the teeth and the sugar just sits there, same as juice. The impact is worse if you eat them straight from the pouch, just as juice is more damaging drunk through a straw, as it's directed straight at the teeth.

Homemade purées are much lumpier usually so they don't coat the teeth in the same way.

What if your baby has no teeth 😀. My kids never get their teeth til after their first birthday so current baby is just all gums.

I don't use them terribly often but they are handy if you're stuck, which I have been a few times recently for different reasons. My mum wanted me to give the baby a Rolo dessert, but I felt that was just a tad too far and an Ella's kitchen would do the job after all.

My first child was weaned on organic delights such as steamed broccoli and roughly mashed butternut squash. He never had anything from a jar, pouch or packet and everything was lovingly made from scratch. For his 6th birthday he literally asked me for a bowl of Coco Pops with squirty cream on top for breakfast. He hates home cooked food and just wants to eat frozen chicken nuggets and Haribo. Should have just given him a spoon and a bag of sugar for what my efforts were worth!

Northernmama123 · 11/08/2022 00:21

Ah classic mumsnet behaviour. I was warned about the militant mums. I got set upon for asking a question about naps lol

You do what is best for your baby OP. My baby is 24 weeks and we've just started her on solids (on my HVs advice) with homemade food and she does prefer fruit (mango and banana) but I'm only giving her tiny amounts to taste and I'll start BLW in 2 weeks when we get to the 6 month mark
They're babies, puréed veg tastes of nothing to them so I add a little cooked apple or pear to give some flavour to the veg she doesn't like (green veg usually, she likes squash and sweet potato)
I always give her the bottle first too.
Best of luck

MumTrain · 11/08/2022 07:10

Thejoyfulstar · 10/08/2022 23:34

The pouches are literally just fruit with naturally occurring sugars. Do you not allow your children to eat fruit as they get older? Genuine question. I boiled some apple pieces in water and mashed it the other day for my baby then gave her a fruit pouch the following day. What was the difference? Am honestly curious.

BLW is a total pain and quite wasteful IMO. It just all ends up on the floor!

The pouches you would make at home have a lot less sugar in them than the amount crammed in to a pouch.

It’s the same with smoothies, they contain a huge amount of fruit. As an example, a small bottle of Innocent contains 3.5 apples, 1.5 bananas, half a pear, a quarter of a peach, 64 blueberries, 39 blackcurrants and so on. No one would eat that in one sitting, but in a smoothie it is easily consumed. It’s exactly the same principle with a pouch. Parents wouldn’t purée the volume of fruit contained in a pouch.

Baby fruit pouches
MumTrain · 11/08/2022 07:42

Northernmama123 · 11/08/2022 00:21

Ah classic mumsnet behaviour. I was warned about the militant mums. I got set upon for asking a question about naps lol

You do what is best for your baby OP. My baby is 24 weeks and we've just started her on solids (on my HVs advice) with homemade food and she does prefer fruit (mango and banana) but I'm only giving her tiny amounts to taste and I'll start BLW in 2 weeks when we get to the 6 month mark
They're babies, puréed veg tastes of nothing to them so I add a little cooked apple or pear to give some flavour to the veg she doesn't like (green veg usually, she likes squash and sweet potato)
I always give her the bottle first too.
Best of luck

If you don’t like the “classic mumsnet behaviour”, there are other parenting forums available where “your baby, your rules” is much more popular.

Northernmama123 · 11/08/2022 08:11

Et voila! 🤣

MGee123 · 11/08/2022 18:53

Northernmama123 · 11/08/2022 00:21

Ah classic mumsnet behaviour. I was warned about the militant mums. I got set upon for asking a question about naps lol

You do what is best for your baby OP. My baby is 24 weeks and we've just started her on solids (on my HVs advice) with homemade food and she does prefer fruit (mango and banana) but I'm only giving her tiny amounts to taste and I'll start BLW in 2 weeks when we get to the 6 month mark
They're babies, puréed veg tastes of nothing to them so I add a little cooked apple or pear to give some flavour to the veg she doesn't like (green veg usually, she likes squash and sweet potato)
I always give her the bottle first too.
Best of luck

Errr...24 weeks is a bit different to 16?! 24 weeks basically is 6 months?! And it's not classic Mumsnet. It's good advice in line with current guidance. Wait until 6 months OP, there is no need to start before unless recommended by a Dr (in very rare circumstances).

SaharaSahara · 12/08/2022 05:03

The way some of u have pounced on the OP is ridiculous. I’m sure she’s highly capable of looking after her baby.

Co-sleeping isn’t advised with a newborn for safety reasons but the amount of times I’ve read on here of mums saying that’s the only way they managed to get any sleep in etc. Nobody bats an eyelid them, but now those same people are probably jumping down the OPs throat!

To answer your question OP it’s normally because the 7M+ pouches/jars are of a thicker or lumpier consistency x

BeanieTeen · 12/08/2022 05:42

What if your baby has no teeth 😀. My kids never get their teeth til after their first birthday so current baby is just all gums.

It’s irrelevant, it still effects their tooth and gum health. You also don’t know when those teeth are going to start cutting - you don’t want the sugar to be sitting on open gum and a newly emerging tooth.
Dentists do recommend cleaning gums, with a wet flannel or some gauze, even with a small amount of toothpaste, when you start weaning to remove bacteria.

BeanieTeen · 12/08/2022 05:50

The way some of u have pounced on the OP is ridiculous. I’m sure she’s highly capable of looking after her baby.

I’m sure she’s a good mum - but knowing that recommended weaning age is 6 months and that stage 1 formula can be used throughout the first year is pretty basic knowledge. All it takes to know that is a rudimentary quick glance at the NHS guidance.
Capable, sure. But I’m not fully convinced of her ‘high capabilities’. What other basic things doesn’t she know?

SaharaSahara · 12/08/2022 10:05

@BeanieTeen oh lay off

Butteryflakycrust83 · 12/08/2022 11:42

Isn't this all a bit like Survivors bias?

'My mum weaned us at 3 months and we were fine.'

My mum weaned me on chocolate puddings at 4 months and all of my siblings and I have chronic IBS.

Science has moved on. Research has moved on.

You can parent your child how you wish, but if you are going to choose a method that goes against all official guidelines, then you need to be prepared to come up against criticism.

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