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Explosive 12 yo Daughter

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user1471503652 · 07/08/2022 15:04

Please go easy on me as I'm judging the hell out of myself right now and feel as though I'm not bringing any value to our family life at present. The situation with my daughter is making me wonder if I can take much more. I also have a stressful job in healthcare which is all consuming for me and paired with the family situation it's just unbreable mentally.

My daughter aged 12 (year 7) has always been emotionally explosive since about 4/5 and prone to emotional and angry episodes which can last hours and in this case, over night into this afternoon. Today has just been awful and I'm so devastated our life has come to what it is.

Despite all this she won't engage with any help, I.e
counselling via school, GP or private. I used to be able to deal with the meltdowns relatively calmly but as she's getting older she's getting destructive around the house (bashing doors, throwing dining room chairs, throwing doorstops etc) and I can't contain it anymore as I'm on the brink of a nervous breakdown. She has always suffered with insomnia (challenge getting to sleep, generally anxious about sleep) and this seems to exasperate the situation

To give you a typical rundown of an episode, this is how it has gone last night through to this afternoon. Yesterday she goes to her friends party, has a fantastic time and gets home around 10... seems in a good mood. It's getting near 11 and me and my husband ask her to get her PJs on... she says in a minute, sat on her phone. Repeat this 6 times over the next 20 minutes and still no PJs and I'm feeling very pissed off. Her reaction is leave me alone, you're always angry at me, I'll do it in a minute etc etc. Then she starts getting sarcastic and just plain disrespectful. It escalates, and she ends up screaming how horrible we are, she hates us, bashing doors and punching pillows. We live in a quiet street so I have to go round shutting windows because my neighbours have to hear this a lot. Her little brother is in bed, but she doesn't care and keeps screaming and yelling. All about putting her PJs on! She also regularly says she doesn't care about neighbours hearing her, so she has no embarrassment. I lock her bedroom window so the noise is contained (small window at top still open). We end up leaving her downstairs and by looking at the camera she rolls into bed at 1.30am.

This morning, she wouldn't get up (usual story at weekends) we attempt to have a talk with her but she tells us to leave her alone. Hours roll past, and she knows we have a family lunch today that she really wants to go to but.. Still in bed. She's pissed off her window is locked, and doesn't seem to grasp the fact it's to save the neighbours eardrums. But she uses this as a negotiation for getting ready for the lunch, "unlock my window then I will get ready" ...when she realises I'm not going to do it, she goes into full meltdown screaming, yelling, throwing objects, hitting, saying she hates us, storming round the house looking for the window key and slamming every cupboard door in her path. She even throws water over us

Now, I'm sat in my living room with my Sunday best on with no where to go as I've stayed home with her and husband has gone to the lunch with her brother (I said just go as it's his family) She is in no fit state after that rage. I'm pissed off and upset in equal measures. I want to help her, I have read books on strategies and communication with explosive children but this is just getting worse. My husband is very supportive, and we are definitely a team, just equally as exhausted with it all.

She's lovely 95% of the time but I cannot deal with these mood swings. I'm going to call the GP tomorrow but I have no clue what they can actually do. She does well at school, has nice friends and is bright. She also has a steady home life and small, close family. These episodes happen at least once a week and often leaves me in tears and often regretful if I've yelled back.

She has caused a lot damage in the house recently and last time threw a couple of dining chairs onto the garden lawn, and time before that pulled her wardrobe door off and made out as though it fell on her randomly? She's really going to break something soon or hurt herself or one of us. She's currently in another room not talking to me but I don't want to talk to her right now. It's so intense when she's screaming at me non stop for hours on end, I'm scared what she is going to do next and I really want to help her. I am considering taking some time off work due to stress. My weekend has been far from relaxing and I have to go back to work tomorrow which makes me want to cry to be honest.

Thanks for reading. Any advice very welcome.

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tattychicken · 08/08/2022 11:48

Have you heard of PDA? Pathological Demand Avoidance. Often comes hand in hand with autism. Might be worth a look.

tattychicken · 08/08/2022 11:49

Even putting on pyjamas becomes a "demand" that she feels unable to do.

Felicity42 · 08/08/2022 15:39

I second the 'love bombing' approach.
Try staying in the room with her quietly even if you feel like leaving. Maybe the jumping up and down was to get you to come back to her.

Say to her 'I live you and I'm here to support you no matter what, no matter how much jumping up and down is going on. But remember, I'm not a mind reader so sometimes I get it wrong so if you can forgive for those mistakes that'd be great''.

Also ask for permission for everything when you are in her space 'may I sit here on your bed'?

Talk to her about how you and her communicate. How does she experience your requests?

She's caught between trying to be a teenager and feeling the pressure of that future not being a child anymore, but also seeing herself regress to aged 4 when strong emotions arise.
Don't say stiff to her like ' your too old for this'.
Is she starting a new school in Sept? If so that could be a massive fear for her.

Also, kids like this seem to assume you can read their minds or seem to believe that they control your mind! Therefore you were supposed to 'know' she wanted to unlock her window herself. When that didn't happen it was a big shock and surprise to her.

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Iusedtobedontcall · 08/08/2022 15:56

Dd, now 16, is autistic ( diagnosed at 15) and she would behave very much like this at 12. Screaming tantrums, breaking things, saying she wanted to die, hitting me or her siblings. She would squeal repetitively and bounce around when agitated. But at school she was quiet and behaved well.

It did get worse before it got better (she stopped being able to mask at school and started avoiding school completely). School couldn’t cope with her and would send her home regularly. I got the diagnosis and school finished and she got an apprenticeship at a hair salon, which she loves. She’s still emotionally dysregulated at times, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

What I will say, is that strong sanctions did not work with Dd. She would escalate quite dramatically, because her issues stemmed from anxiety and a very strong need to be in control. Removing her phone one day led to her saying she’d taken an overdose. Trying to make her go to school would lead to her running away. Now she’s 16 though - if she tries to control me by saying she’s running away, it’s easier as I just say ‘oh that’s a shame love, well good luck.’ She invariably comes back within an hour or two for food 😂

I couldn’t do that when she was younger as she was saying she wanted to harm herself and I obviously had to take those threats seriously, even though I knew that it was all about control. We just had to ride it out - it was hell, but we got there. Teenage hormones and autism were not a good combination.

Natural consequences worked well with Dd. Being as calm as possible (it’s not easy) and not reacting emotionally. DD’s psychologist said that emotions were frightening for her as she has alexithymia meaning she doesn’t recognise what she is feeling.

I showed her lots of love and tried to be calm and consistent. CAMHS were involved, but weren’t that helpful. I got a prescription for sertraline from a private psychiatrist which helped a little. School was an extremely distressing environment for Dd and now she no longer has to attend and can pursue her own interests, she’s much happier. She likes to be able to move around and do something practical and school felt like a prison for her.

I feel that Dd has a future now. She’s independent and enjoys her job. She still struggles to make friends, but I don’t make demands of her that are to do with social conformity. If she doesn’t want to say hi to the mother in law one day, she doesn’t have to. That way I avoid placing additional stress on her when she’s exhausted from social interaction or demands.

Best of luck - I hope that helps a little. I know it may be a different situation with your Dd - but it just resonated. I had a lot of well meaning people saying I was too soft and needed to be firmer with Dd but that made things far worse ultimately. Finding out she was autistic helped - Dd felt validated I think, but some of it was just time.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/08/2022 16:23

What I will say, is that strong sanctions did not work with Dd. She would escalate quite dramatically, because her issues stemmed from anxiety and a very strong need to be in control.

Yep, this is exactly want we found. Sanctions made it worse.

Nickw87 · 23/02/2026 19:39

apologise I know this was a while ago but you are describing our current situation. I was hoping to see if/how you managed your situation?

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