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Bewildered at parenting snubbing.

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Bunbuns3 · 13/07/2022 23:12

I have a 4 year old dd that has been going to nursery for just over a year now. In that time she has made three very close friends. Normally after nursery pick up if the weather is nice, we all go to a small park that is directly opposite the nursery, so the children can run a round, share snacks and have fun.
We have kept this arrangement fairly casual, and if we don't happen to bump into each other at the gates, it is no biggy and we would all just see each other another day. We have on occasion done some pre arranged activities such as going to the museum, which again is extremely close to the nursery, but mostly my encounters with the other mothers have been very polite and cordial, and not crossing over the boundary of intense friendship.
I assumed this arrangement suited us all, and although I would never call the other mothers friends as such I did think that we all got on and liked each other.
A few months ago one of the other mothers decided her daughter should not have any snacks after nursery. This was not discussed in advance, and the first we knew of it was when I handed her little girl a Kinder milk slice, and her mother snatched it out of her hand and put it in her bag. I thought this was a little out of character and just dismissed it as an off day, but it was awkward with the other three little girls happily munching away and her daughter looking on with a very puzzled look on her face. I would say this happened on and off another three times, the other mums would give a bag of crisps or a sweet and again it would happen with the snatching and the snack being put in this mother's handbag, while all the other children ate happily with this little girl looking very sad.
After a while myself and the other mothers brought less and less food. We always did bring fruit as well, but it got to the point we just did not bring anything because it was clearly upsetting this particular mother, and it was awkward with her poor dd.
I thought that everything was ok after that, until one of the other mothers mentioned a dance class that was starting near the nursery, and would we all like to go and see what it was like? They offered 1 free trial class, before signing up. I thought that sounded good, so I said yes I would be interested in trying it out as I knew my dd would really enjoy a class.

Well anti snack mum erupted into a rant that 4 year olds did not need dance classes and it was against her beliefs to do such a thing because it would be pointless. The mother that suggested the class mentioned it would be fun, well that was another red rag, because fun should not come into it when learning something new said she.
Nothing else was said and we respected her choice but the rest of us did do the free trial and we were all quite impressed so we did sign up to the class, 1 hour a week and we have been going for about 5 weeks.
Since then the mother that did not want to join us has been acting even stranger. She has been picking her daughter up earlier from nursery so she would just miss us, or if she did happen to see us, she would march her dd away in the opposite direction. I don't mind being treated like a leper if I was a really nasty person and had done something wrong, but it just seems to me this whole situation has got way out of hand. It is the children I feel bad for and unfortunately after the summer I have another year of this to look forward to. I just can't believe a grown woman can act so unhinged over something so small. I am just not sure how to handle this very weird situation?
I may add if it helps none of my dds friends mothers are originally from the UK so not sure if I am missing something culture about this whole sorry situation, although the mother that is acting strange is from a different country to the other parents.
I find myself thinking about this situation way longer than I should, and at times just feel helpless and sad. Looking forward to hearing some honest opinions on this because I am clueless as to how to proceed.

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Lindy2 · 14/07/2022 11:08

Just carry on doing what you're doing with the other mums.

Perhaps the mum distancing themselves has other issues going on right now. Finances are tight for many so starting a dance class could be unaffordable. She may be jealous that you are all doing the class. She may just not be enjoying the meet ups like she used to.

You can't please everyone and you can't be friends with everyone.

JubileeTrifle · 14/07/2022 11:10

Some people look to be offended. If you want to give your child a snack after nursery then go ahead (regardless of what MN says also).

Ive found there are mothers who seem to be annoyed when they aren’t the ones ‘in control’. They always want to dictate the activities you do etc and get pissed when no one makes them leader.
id just move on.

Georgeskitchen · 14/07/2022 11:15

Stop giving her headspace. You owe her and her child nothing. You seem to have a cordial relationship with the other mums so just forget about her. Let your dc enjoy the park, the snacks, playing with the other kids etc

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DappledThings · 14/07/2022 11:40

Bunbuns3 · 14/07/2022 09:11

Thank you for your responses. I now know I am an awful person, for treating her daughter kindly and wanting her to spend time with my dd. In future I will not make the same mistake. Thanks again.

Well that's a massive and weird overreaction. Nobody said anything even vaguely like that on here. She's been a bit weird but possibly has other stuff going on. Everyone just said to try and brush it off and not take it personally but you've taken those responses really personally and like you've been attacked.

Somethingsnappy · 14/07/2022 16:20

DappledThings · 14/07/2022 11:40

Well that's a massive and weird overreaction. Nobody said anything even vaguely like that on here. She's been a bit weird but possibly has other stuff going on. Everyone just said to try and brush it off and not take it personally but you've taken those responses really personally and like you've been attacked.

Yes. OP, you've just written a weirdly over-the-top sarcastic response to posters who have implied nothing of the sort, and who have given pleasant and helpful responses. If you're this reactive in real life, taking things the wrong way, perhaps this has something to do with the other mother's decision to break off from you?

Mellowyellow222 · 14/07/2022 17:51

INeedNewShoes · 14/07/2022 01:39

OP, I think you're taking it too personally. This woman seems to have issues. If you can be bothered, I'd ask her quietly one day if everything's ok and that it's a shame she never joins you anymore. See if she can say why.

it’s like a race - my little Hercules only eats juniper berries and drinks pasteurised lambs tears.

and there's always a parallel race for the wittiest way of conveying a sneery eye-roll at the poster who dares to give a fuck about their toddler being unnecessarily introduced to overly sweet/salty/processed food at a young age.

It is absolutely fine to feed your child whatever you decide. But why call out other mums for having a different approach?

TheFridayRabbit · 14/07/2022 18:24

Mellowyellow222 · 14/07/2022 17:51

It is absolutely fine to feed your child whatever you decide. But why call out other mums for having a different approach?

It really isn’t. Parents have a responsibility to feed their children a nutritious diet. That does not include daily and large doses of ultra processed foods. We are talking about very young children. Crisps and chocolate every day is just irresponsible. How is it that so many people know so little about nutrition and responsible parenting?

TheFridayRabbit · 14/07/2022 18:26

Somethingsnappy · 14/07/2022 16:20

Yes. OP, you've just written a weirdly over-the-top sarcastic response to posters who have implied nothing of the sort, and who have given pleasant and helpful responses. If you're this reactive in real life, taking things the wrong way, perhaps this has something to do with the other mother's decision to break off from you?

Not just taking things the wrong way but unable to engage constructively.

Mellowyellow222 · 14/07/2022 18:26

TheFridayRabbit · 14/07/2022 18:24

It really isn’t. Parents have a responsibility to feed their children a nutritious diet. That does not include daily and large doses of ultra processed foods. We are talking about very young children. Crisps and chocolate every day is just irresponsible. How is it that so many people know so little about nutrition and responsible parenting?

😂 okay - maybe you should start a park patrol and report anyone with a toddler and a kinder bar to social services!!!

EthicalNonMahogany · 14/07/2022 18:31

A single kinder slice, or one packet of crisps, per day, is super unhealthy for a 4 year old? Give over.

minuette1 · 14/07/2022 18:39

EthicalNonMahogany · 14/07/2022 18:31

A single kinder slice, or one packet of crisps, per day, is super unhealthy for a 4 year old? Give over.

It would be super unhealthy for an adult to be eating crisps and chocolate bars every day and they are a lot bigger than 4 year olds!

MissBPotter · 14/07/2022 18:45

There isn’t a problem here, just carry on with the class if you want, or don’t. Better that your kids don’t eat those very unhealthy snacks, especially at age three/four and everyday. She’s not unhinged, she just has a different approach to you. To be honest I’m not sure how you’ve got through life this far if you think this is such a major issue 😅

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/07/2022 19:02

Presumably the other mothers are still fine with you? I don't think there's anything you can or should do about the one mother who's acting differently.

Bunbuns3 · 14/07/2022 20:16

I think you are all missing the point. My dd is naturally missing her friend and not sure what to say to her. I really thought all this petty childish behaviour was behind me at my age.

We have never exchanged cross words, but you could tell by all her huffing, puffing and tutting she was extremely annoyed. I just tried to smooth things over as that is generally my nature.

The other two mothers are very easy going and pleasant and were equally as calm as me when the other mother was flapping about this and that.

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NerrSnerr · 14/07/2022 20:27

Just tell your daughter that Ellie can't come to the park but that's ok because they get to play together at nursery.

Honestly, mum friends will come and go and so will your child's friends. Just because your daughter wants to play in the park with this girl doesn't mean it must happen.

EarringsandLipstick · 14/07/2022 20:58

My dd is naturally missing her friend and not sure what to say to her. I really thought all this petty childish behaviour was behind me at my age.

Don't be silly.

You are making a massive drama over nothing.

Doesn't your DD see her friend in nursery?

The other mum is a bit odd but just leave her be. It's not worth all this angst.

(And yes, the snacks are definitely excessive but the mum's reaction is really odd too)

Mwnci123 · 14/07/2022 21:10

The snack thing- no, I don't think people should get too worked up about what other people feed their children, but it can be a bit irritating when it rubs off on the kids around them. In this particular scenario, the other mothers seem to have been giving someone else's very young child several bits of ultra processed junk without checking it out first, continuing to do it when the mother had made it clear with her reaction to the kinder thing that she didn't want them to. They are being annoying, though possibly well intentioned. I wonder from what op said about the snack-denied child looking sad and confused whether there was in fact some subtle (but perceptible) cliquey judgement of the snack-denying mother.

Skyeheather · 14/07/2022 21:12

What if the Mum can't afford dance classes and after nursery snacks for her DD and everyone else? Do you want her to get into debt just so your DD can have her friend to play with?

You just get on with your life and let her get on with hers. Her DD is not missing out on anything by not attending your precious dance class.

Mwnci123 · 14/07/2022 21:13

Op, it's sad when people you used to be friendly with drop you. That said, you come across as being a bit touchy and defensive on this thread, so I wonder whether things actually went down as you describe.

pinkymurder · 14/07/2022 21:14

Surely she gets to see her friend every time she's in nursery?

Littlefucker · 14/07/2022 21:29

Yes four year olds don’t tend to sit meekly looking ‘sad and confused’. They are pretty vocal. You do actually sound a bit mean

PatientlyWaiting21 · 14/07/2022 21:58

I feel so sorry for her daughter

INeedNewShoes · 14/07/2022 22:09

Mellowyellow222 · 14/07/2022 17:51

It is absolutely fine to feed your child whatever you decide. But why call out other mums for having a different approach?

I actually don’t tend to call people out on it and I definitely don’t mock them whereas it’s apparently fair game to take the piss out of the parents who are trying to not rely so heavily on these sorts of snacks.

On one particular play date lasting a couple of hours the mum kept sending me photos of DD eating sugary snacks and then laughing emoji messages. ‘I’m so sorry!!!! They've somehow ended up having two packets of sweets, a packet of crisps and an ice cream. So sorry!!!'.

It’s exactly the same school of thought that does not allow any comment whatsoever about people who are overweight even at general population level yet commenting on how a woman is ‘all skin and bone’ (lightheartedly of course) or saying ‘you’ve lost weight’ in an accusatory tone is perfectly fine!

TotalRhubarb · 14/07/2022 22:14

minuette1 · 13/07/2022 23:21

What stood out for me is the amount of junk food you and the other two parents give your children. As for the other mother's behaviour the only way you'll know why she is upset with you is if you ask. We can't possibly know if it's cultural or not 🤷🏻‍♀️

Good grief!

Bunbuns3 · 14/07/2022 22:24

This little is ex

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