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Trouble between wife and parents

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svar · 22/02/2022 14:39

TL;DR: Wife cannot get over the hurt my parents have caused her and she emotionally breaks down every other day. This is taking a toll on our marriage. Seeking help and advice.

LONG post warning.

It’s been a little over three years to this marriage and we have a baby on the way. Wife is 8 months pregnant. I love my wife dearly.

Arranged marriage. Indian. There were several incidents/behaviors of my parents during the wedding planning days in India that annoyed my wife then. She was in India while I was working here in the US. Wedding planning financial discussions didn’t go well - the way it went down was that my parents subtly “demanded” that their guests be looked after well. (He’ll deny “demanding” anything, will say these things happen during wedding planning). So, asking about the accommodations to the level of wanting to check which rooms are assigned to which families who are attending the wedding. Saying big things but delivering little. This ticked off her parents as well to a point. Her dad is very humble/agreeable. Her mom pulls him back and such situations caused some clashes in her house but they never took it out on my parents - wife, feels, to this date that my parents took advantage of her family.

I should have played a bigger role during the wedding planning, and after. I gave too much control to my parents and things slipped out of hand, didn’t address the issues when they were happening allowing resentment to build in my wife.

Fast forward to shortly after the wedding. My mother gave her a tough time - being sly, sometimes offhand comments, asked her about what her mother/relatives gave her in terms of jewelry and if she brought it with her. When I asked my dad later as to why this happened, he said it was purely because she was curious, we don’t want anything for ourselves EVER. (My analysis - They know her mother pulls back on money issues and felt won’t give anything to the daughter after wedding. And this is why they were asking her.)

Parents talked to her like how they’d talk to their elder son, me - so instead of walking on eggshells and proceeding cautiously around the new bride, taking some liberties and making some comments - about her hair, why does the AC run all night in our room, why the curtains are always drawn etc, why she doesn’t eat fruits eat.

We went to India for vacay in Jan 2020 and the night we were supposed to fly back - this topic of jewelry came up and my mother escalated it, getting territorial about me, when my wife asked my mom to not yell at her son as I was trying to calm the situation down. My mother then yelled few unpleasant words and then started hyperventilating (from her own shouting) and wife said “I am not comfortable” and left the room.

We came back to the US. I sat on this issue for months, my dad and mom didn’t raise this issue either or said sorry. Days passed and my wife kept talking terms with my parents. After 4-5 months, I built the courage to tell my dad what my wife is upset about. He heard everything calmly, although denied any direct wrongdoing and foulplay. Wife oscillated between happily talking to them and periods where she’d replay each scene of her trauma again and again in her mind and breaking down.

I talked to my father again in September last year 1:1. This time much more strongly and several times. Not to my mother because I was afraid she’d withdraw and that it may further ruin things between my wife and her and that my mom will really dislike my wife for “making me think this way”. Father is a dominant personality but also emotional and has a weak spot for me. He again denied direct wrong doing and urged me to not take sides and point fingers at anyone, see situation with a calm mind.

He and mother said sorry to wife on phone. After that, they said sorry on messages. Writing out what they should have done. They say sorry to me. But for my wife - these apologies are too late, not genuine (true because I’ve helped my dad message her, write out the text etc.) enough and she’s been alone during her pregnancy with no help from in-laws.

My wife has deep seated hatred and resentment for my parents at this point and the fights are because I don’t feel the same emotion as strongly as her and only “convey” it to my parents. In my defense, I’ve yelled at my parents and made them hear the situation.

My dad wants to resolve the situation together with me side-dealing with me - guides me that pointing finger will not resolve anything, there are always two sides of a coin. Sends me reconciliatory texts, (not to my wife after she straight up told him “sorry dear FIL, I cannot forget and forgive everything so easily.”)

At this point, parents have gone radio silent after been asked to cancel their trip to the US to stay with us, I didn’t want to invite stress in my home during such a critical time. Wife has cut off from parents temporarily, so have I but I have talked a couple times. They are bruised, saying - wrongly accused of misdoings, isolated and cut out from their son, son being ruled by wife and everything just a planned scheme to cut them out.
The cut off doesn’t help for wife - she WANTS to inflict the same amount of disrespect back on to them, only then she’ll feel some respite she says.

How do I resolve this? My wife is having an emotional breakdown every other day - really harmful for the baby and her I know. When I explain to my parents, they feel accused and feel victimized by their elder son. I love both, my wife and my parents, but I love my wife a lot and want to save this marriage.

I am breaking down..

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TravellingFrom · 22/02/2022 21:53

What @PantsandBoots said.

Also, of course she isn’t ready to move forward!
You still haven’t done anything to prove to her that you have her back. Instead, you’ve fine BEHIND her back….

On thé top of it, it was an arranged marriage which means you probably didn’t have the opportunity to build up a ‘reserve’ of trust between you that you and your dwife would rely on.
Basically, the first hurdle was the wedding and you failed to be present and have her back then….

So the question for you is
What are YOU going to do to prove she can trust you?
What are you going to do to have her back - she comes first before your parents?

I cannot speak to my mum in the tone you suggested - she’s just a ball of emotions and she may flare up further. On top of this she has chronic hypertension, blood sugar and can fall sick easily.

Just that comment says a lot about how your parents are functioning.
your parents seem good at using guilt to manipulate you too. Maybe look at how you react to their outbursts/behaviours etc… A lot if what is t going well just now is down to the fact you have been raised to please them, nit question their authority, bow to them and their decision. Going against that is hard.

svar · 22/02/2022 22:04

^What are YOU going to do to prove she can trust you?
What are you going to do to have her back - she comes first before your parents?^

I have cut her off from my parents.
I have called and told my parents they should cancel their trip here as I don't want to add to wife's stress.
I have yelled and held my parents responsible for their behavior

All this is not useful/impactful to her because (a) it does not resurrect her lost self-esteem from the humiliation and mistreatments (b) it's too little too late, and most importantly (c) parents have not felt they did anything wrong.

I realize I cannot make anyone feel a certain way, I can only communicate and tell them my piece.

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Babynames2 · 23/02/2022 09:02

She did not appreciate her pregnancy not being made the priority, discussions shifted to brothers wedding planning and her pregnancy support was put second in line. By the time omicron wave subsided, it was late January and by this time she was already 7 months into her pregnancy. She expected MIL support but there was none. They only planned to come after brothers wedding, de-prioritizing her pregnancy. After this, the past several weeks the past has come back to haunt her in terms of the injustices and treatment she has received.

They may have done wrong initially but to be quite honest, your wife sounds like a drama queen. Why on earth would they prioritise the pregnancy when the baby would not be born until after your brothers wedding? She sounds like she’s out to make trouble now.

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Fretfulmum · 23/02/2022 15:50

Coming from a similar culture, even though you feel you have taken steps to remand the situation, in her eyes it is not enough. Your parents behaviour is atrocious and is unacceptable. You can’t expect her to just forget and move on. She sounds the type of person who will hold a grudge forever. You need to really show you support her and will protect her from your parents. In my experience, when kids come along, things only get worse. Be prepared for that. Can you think of ways to help your parents see the impact of their behaviour? If my ILs questioned what jewellery I received, I would be fuming and think they are money grabbing and judging my family. It’s none of their business what jewellery your wife has

svar · 23/02/2022 23:04

@Babynames2

She did not appreciate her pregnancy not being made the priority, discussions shifted to brothers wedding planning and her pregnancy support was put second in line. By the time omicron wave subsided, it was late January and by this time she was already 7 months into her pregnancy. She expected MIL support but there was none. They only planned to come after brothers wedding, de-prioritizing her pregnancy. After this, the past several weeks the past has come back to haunt her in terms of the injustices and treatment she has received.

They may have done wrong initially but to be quite honest, your wife sounds like a drama queen. Why on earth would they prioritise the pregnancy when the baby would not be born until after your brothers wedding? She sounds like she’s out to make trouble now.

this may be her pregnancy hormones speaking.

Just from my experience understanding her personality type a bit - She gives all her relationships a lot of effort and thus also expects a lot back. She does get really upset about it when her expectations are not met, case in point - her own parents not giving the kind of support she expected (fighting for her, questioning her in-laws) from them really upsets her.
Another thing, she is an only child - so she's grown up with the limelight on her, so could this be the reason for her difficulty in accepting the fact that she may not always be top priority now with her extended family (in-laws) who prioritized a wedding during her pregnancy?

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MintJulia · 23/02/2022 23:40

To be honest, they sound as bad as each other. Your mum was nasty, bullying and mercenary, and now your wife is drama queening it because not enough fuss was made of her 'pregnancy journey'.

Two things are clear.

  1. They are both intent on being top of the family pecking order and neither will rest until they have ground the other down.
  2. An extended visit by your parents, to your home just as your wife is due to give birth is a very bad idea. They will end up hating each other so much, the rift will never be mended.

Can you delay your parents' visit? Give your wife and her mum time together for the baby to be born, for your wife to recover, and to get baby into a basic routine.

Then perhaps invite your parents for a short visit (a week?), when they do not stay in your home. You can manage short visits each day for your parents to see their grandchild, while alllowing your wife to stay in bed or with her mum.

You have my sympathy. Whatever you do, it won't end well because neither of them wants it to.

PantsandBoots · 24/02/2022 07:34

It seems like you have tried a lot.

And your wife should accept the efforts you have made.

I would attempt to divert your wife from the negativity by creating a positive environment through daily loving actions towards her and lots of positive statements eg I cant wait for our baby to be born. Its going to be a new chapter for us. Its going to be so exciting. Who do you think the baby will look like?

Hopefully, the positivity will rub off on her.

PantsandBoots · 24/02/2022 07:39

@svar - tell your wife that you didnt stand up for her at the time because you had never faced this situation before and didnt know how to deal with it.

Now you are standing up for her and have dealt with it. So lets draw a line under it and not let it ruin the rest of our lives.

Crookedman · 24/02/2022 07:47

I think maybe couples counselling, what your parents have done is horrible but the thing that is harming your relationship now is that your wife is basically angry at you for not doing enough I think. You need a untied front to deal with your parents and you seem to be trying to do that but your wife isn’t necessarily understanding that. I’m from asian background so I do understand.

Honestly though she wants them to grovel and that isn’t going to happen. She’s been humiliated and it’s hard to get past but she needs to understand that you are doing what you can and the way to get past this is for you two to be on the same page. Her best revenge to be honest is that you hold her in esteem, value her and have her back, that’ll piss your mum off no end (in my experience of this particular kind of indian MIL) She has that already by the looks of it.

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 24/02/2022 22:33

Given that you live so far away, could she just have minimal contact with your parents.

Yes l, your parents do sound as though they are in the wrong, but it also sounds as though part of it is cultural differences - family pride and keeping face, very prevalent in traditional Indian culture (the jewellery, the wedding accommodation for guests), whereas you and your wife sound more modern in your views.

Personally I don't think you should have to cut ties with your parents, you just need to be strong with them and stick up for your wife where necessary - they are a product of their upbringing and it's up to you to show them different ways. I'd probably go to some effort to minimise the contact she has with them for the time being should that be what she would like. Being in different countries should help with that!

BornBlonde · 24/02/2022 22:57

Would she be willing to have some counselling? It may help her mental health.

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