MMR or seperate jabs which ones would you give ?

[robinredbreast]

hi yes dd has had all the vaccinations so far and is now 6 months, i know they do not have the MMR until 12 months ish?
so im doing reserch now trying to decide whever its better to get the single vaccinations
i don't mind paying

MMR without a doubt

I think people often get worried about the MMR partly because kids often do react, midly-eg fever.

But the reaction is surely good- it shows that the vaccine has worked. If a kid reacts like that to the vaccine-how would they react to the actual diesease?

Someone-yurt, I think-also brought up this idea that some autism is caused by rubella in early pregnancy. A great argument IMO for doing our best to eradicate rubella, and vaccines are our best chance of this.

MMR.
Vaccines have saved millions of lives worldwide and we should all be greatfull that we live in an era where our children are protected from life-threateing diseases

ALomonderfulLife - but there is no harm in delaying vaccines until later on when we can afford them. measles is the important one so they will have that one first (18mionths ish for me but can be given from age 1). mumps and rubella are no more serious than chicken pox in small children. mumps only really dangerous to teenage boys and rubella to pregnant women. so the dcs will have those jabs before they reach puberty.

robin - the single vaccines are much more effective than the mmr. they provide better immunity from the diseases. because they are given one at a time the body builds up better defences to each disease.

the vaccines mine had/will have were licenced for use in france so i didn't have any concerns re safety, and the doc i went to had been giving the vaccines for 20yrs.

Although if you're serious about that Charlie- (eradication of maternal rubella) they should be giving a booster in teen years (as they do in the Sates- and then again in later adulthood as the vaccinated generation grows up). Otherwise you risk the jab given in infancy wearing off and adults becoming non-rubella immune. Personally I think there should be more done to encourage women of childbearing age to get their rubella status checked and then vaccinate those that need it (whatever they do with babies- whether jabbed or not).

correct me if I am wrong, but girls DO have a booster jab of rubella - well I did anyway, at about 14 iirc

Yes you did. It's not given now. The MMR given initially at 18, then 15 then 13 months replaced that.

I did MMR for my two

if I had boys I may have gone for singles

neither have had a booster (mainly because every time they are booked in they are ill and I cancel)

yurt i wasn't aware they had dropped that too

Only a DTP booster in teen years now. If they did introduce it again it would presumably be another MMR (as they do in the States). TBH that would make more sense than a single rubella anyway as you don't want adults wondering around with waned immunity to mumps and measles either.

thankyou for all the views and comments ill still undecided but verring towards the singles
off to research it more today

aargh!

I keep going back and forth with this too.. will call my GP and see what her opinion is

re rubella booster - my 15 yr old dd is to have hers this year as i recently signed a consent form

That's good perhaps they do it in some areas- it's not listed on the standard schedule. I would advise anyone with teenage dd's to get their rubella status tested if they're not given booster.

MMR. The research that casused the inital outcry re MMR and Autistic spectrum disorders was very flawed. There is no current research suggesting that there is a definate link between the two.

Measles, Mumps and Rubella as diseases can leave lasting damage to children - have a look on google. The longer you leave them before you immunise them, the more at risk they are.

If they do have a slight post immunisation fever, give paracetamol. much easier that dealing with a little one with measles!

Whoever said motherhood was easy!

DS caught measles at 11 months, before due for MMR. He was fine - just fever for 3 days and a rash. I had MMR as a child but it didn't protect me - I caught measles from DS, and was hospitalised with encephalitis, which is very serious. Measles is much more dangerous for an adult than a child apparently. Luckily I survived with no ill effects apart from some memory loss and hearing loss (could have been MUCH worse). Since DS had had measles DH took him for separate mumps & rubella - couldn't see the point in him having measles vac when he'd have the best possible immunity from having caught 'wild' measles. (At the time I couldn't take DS anywhere or take any decisions as encephalitis really scrambled my brain...)

However GP disagreed because DS hadn't been tested for measles at the time (GP had said it couldn't possibly be measles and refused to test, and then when 5 kids in DSs nursery came down with measles that week he still said it wasn't, then when I got it the next week he said 'oh... maybe it was'). Anyway GP threw a fit that he wasn't vaccinated against measles even though he'd HAD it - and particularly took against DH when he pointed out that the only possible purpose in vaccinating DS was for GP to get his flippin' bonus!

My Dad paid for DS to get singles - he's a GP & had a couple of patients regress after MMR (boys in both cases). But he agrees complications from MMR are very rare. Trouble is when the govt says they are non-existent, there's no trust in what they're saying if you actually know people where there has been a problem. And when they say MMR 'protects against the serious complications of measles' I think 'Not for me it didn't, mate!'

How was the research flawed mustremember?

There is no current research suggesting that there is not a link. Wakefield et als hypothesis is that MMR triggers autism in less the 10% of cases - in a particular subgroup- the research to date has only ever tested whether MMR is responsible for the entire rise in autism cases- no-one has ever suggested it is. AFAIK that's the only research rejecting the supposed original research. Although it doesn't test the original hypothesis and hasn't examined the affected children directly.

Does your GP have to refer you for single jabs? Or do some GPs provide this? I won't be able to ask my GP until tomorrow...

Yeah I think I'm leaning toward giving DD single jabs...

GP doesn't have to refer you. Only one GP gives singles on the NHS- Richard Halvorsen (although he can't if you're not already a patient of his).

thanks yurt!

Parenting is such a fraught business at times...

am I allowed to silently smile that you still get drawn into these threads .. after how many years? (and you know who I'm talking about too don't you )

Dh leaned over my shoulder last night and said 'oh for fucks sake leave it alone'. He's a sensible man. I needed some trauma relief last night after booking our fucking torture trip to Ireland. Oh the joys of autism.

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are you jj?

PMSL wondered how long it would take you

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I usually recognise people but have not been on much lately

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