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Interfering mother in law

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BraveheartA · 23/08/2021 13:13

Hi all, was just looking for some advice re my mother in law and boundaries, if anyone's had a similar experience or if I'm just overreacting.

My relationship with my mother in law has always been tenuous - she was nearly the reason for calling off our wedding as she demanded to be allowed to invite her extended friends/family (it doubled our guest list).

Things have improved vastly since then and we get along relatively amicably.

Unfortunately since our baby was born last week things have become difficult again. On the evening I gave birth (took 2 days of induction with various complications), she asked hubby to let her know when we got home so she could come straight over. I had to gently tell her that I'd need a couple of days to recover first, but then realised that hubby's brother wouldn't be available (he has to drive them) later in the week so when I got home from hospital a day later I agreed they could pop round for a quick visit the next day. She sulked at first but then agreed.

When they came round they brought food and various bits, but then she keeps making little snippet suggestions - am I using this, have I been doing this with him, bombarding me with suggestions which I have to keep politely declining (she has a very old fashioned view to babies and all her advice whilst well meaning is outdated - I'm happy with the antenatal classes I've taken). Problem is she then becomes sullen when I decline her advice.

She also found out that we were going to go shopping together and immediately told me I should not be going as he would get a respiratory infection - I suppose she had a point as I've not had my covid vaccine yet so he has little immunity, but her way of telling me was extremely forthright.

She rang twice over the weekend to ask how the baby was getting on and has also rang hubby the day before at 10pm just as I'd fallen asleep after a sleepless night cluster feeding, which she said was ok because he goes to bed late and had to be told it wasn't because she'd just woken me up. On yesterday's call she asked what time baby went to bed, I said he hasn't got a solid time yet (he's a newborn?! He doesn't even have a fully established routine yet though we are working towards it), and she said ok well we'll come over at x time, didn't even ask if we were free or anything just invited herself round.
I had to politely decline and said we were having dinner soon ( she wanted to come in 3 hours time) but maybe we'd come visit later in the week.

Again, she picked a day without asking and said she'd see us then then was about to ring off! I had to tell her we had plans that day so it would more likely be the day before, as we were having our vaccines so would come after. She immediately said that we'd drop the baby off with her then (presumably because she's panicking again about us taking him in somewhere - we weren't going to, we were going to go in in turn as it's a walk in centre now). I told her the day before that I wasn't expressing yet so he'd have had no food or anything to be left with.

Not only that, this is my first baby; it's not that I'm being possessive but this is all extremely new to me and I just want to be left alone to bond with him. My own mum never asked if she could do anything, only told me that she was at my beck and call should I want her and to only do what I was comfortable with ie letting people hold baby.
Well when MIL came round that day when he was 2 days old, hubby took baby for a nappy change, when came back down he said oh grandma can hold him now, quickly asked if it was ok with me which of course I couldn't say no as would be rude. She sat there holding him for 20 minutes and not only was I utterly exhausted still as we'd only gotten home from hospital the previous night quite late (I was practically falling asleep in front of them - they'd been there over an hour by that point), it was taking all my instincts not to rip her back off him.

In the end I had to tell her I was taking him back as we were both going for a lie down. They still proceeded to stay an extra hour after I'd left.

When I asked hubby why he did that, he said that he knew I'd find it hard to give him up so he did it on purpose to try and break that for me.

We are going to see them today, and I'm absolutely dreading it. Twice I've broken down in sobs in front of hubby - yes it is probably partly hormone influenced and I think he thinks that's all it is - but he just thinks I'm overreacting and should just continue to be firm with her as I have done when she keeps interfering. I just don't want to have to - she should be more understanding. When I told him that it wasn't going to turn into a game of pass the parcel with baby either, his response was "why not?".

Sorry for the long post but aside my own parents I don't have anyone who's been through this before to talk to about it, am I just being an overreactive new mum???

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Nc4post99 · 23/08/2021 13:34

Your husband really needs to step up here and tell her lovingly but firmly ‘mum, you are being quite full on and we’re finding it a bit much, please stop making demands and interfering’. Even if he thinks you’re being a little extra, you just gave birth, he should listen to you. It is a bit much having visitors, going out socialising and heading everyone’s opinion on how you should parents when you’ve got a newborn, you’re recovering from birth, you’re sleep deprived and breastfeeding (from the sounds of it you are).

I too have an annoying MIL, who ironically is terrible with children yet constantly tells people what they should do, it’s infuriating.

Chocolatetrifle · 23/08/2021 13:39

Congratulations on your new baby!
You need to take time to heal and recover from the birth without so many trips to and visits from your in-laws. They are clearly excited about seeing your son, is he their first grandchild? ls your DH an only child?

It is your mother's instinct coupled with your previously strained relationship with your Mother-in-law, which is not wanting your MIL to hold your baby. Some may find that strange but I just came on to comment that I felt exactly like that with my DS1 and wanted to say you are not alone in feeling like that. I think I even have said previously it's not a game of 'pass the baby'. You've only just given birth, of course you want to hold your own baby as long as you want to!

My MIL called my first son' her baby' and said to him when he was a bit older 'who is your mummy? ' She pointed at me and said 'no, not her I'm your mummy' Shock.

Try to have some time to yourself with your baby and DH without any visitors for a good few days and just enjoy the newborn bubble.
You may feel differently in time about your MIL as your baby gets bigger. Just smile and nod at any advice she tries to give you and do things your own way. You are the mum, and she has already had her turn at mothering your DH!

Focus on you and your baby and DH and good luck.

LeonieSims · 23/08/2021 14:24

My MIL called my first son' her baby' and said to him when he was a bit older 'who is your mummy? ' She pointed at me and said 'no, not her I'm your mummy' shock.

That's deranged

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AliceW89 · 23/08/2021 14:53

Your MIL sounds like a lot of hard work. But the person who’s completely in the wrong here is your DH. His lack of support for you is astounding. Why on earth should you have to be firm with his mother a week post partum?? Why is he insisting you go round there when you obviously don’t want to!? Yes she should be more understanding, but she obviously isn’t, so he needs to put boundaries in place to protect you and your mental health, not facilitate her.

Aquamarine1029 · 23/08/2021 15:43

Your husband is absolutely useless. I would be having some very firm words.

Nextchapterofmybook · 23/08/2021 16:01

One day you will be a MIL when your boy has a baby. I hope you won’t except to hold your grandson when you visit him for the first time. Especially for a whole 20 minutes!

Think you are being a bit sensitive.

BraveheartA · 23/08/2021 16:05

Thank you all. It's nice to know I'm not alone! We've just had the mother of all blazing rows - probably the worst we've ever had - he clearly thinks she has a halo over her head for some reason (even though they've never had the best relationship themselves - suddenly because she wants to be involved she's the most amazing mother ever) and keeps bringing it back that I've always hated her (I haven't, there's certain things I can't forgive her for but I don't hate her), and that she's just excited so this is how she expresses herself. He said we never made it clear the boundaries we expected her to follow, though I did make him aware before we even left hospital so he obviously never communicated that to her. We're on our way to visit now and he says he will have a word with her - I expect his to go down like a lead balloon....

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Aquamarine1029 · 23/08/2021 16:11

You never should have agreed to go.

InpatientGardener · 23/08/2021 16:20

My DP disagreed with me about his parents holding DD for their entire visit every visit , so 3 plus hours of her being passed between them. He really didn't see what the issue was for me. It took several horrible rows before he backed me up and accepted that I felt genuinely uncomfortable with it and that it was causing me anxiety. He's much more supportive of me now but I still resent him for dismissing my feelings at the time. If I could go back I actually wouldn't bother discussing it with DP, I'd just take my baby back when I wanted to. And for the posters who will cry unfairness, my own mother rarely held my baby and if she did it wasn't for long because she knew how agitated I got. I had a premature baby and used to utterly panic at the prospect of people 'taking' her from me. As PP say, it does get easier as they get older.

Chocolatetrifle · 23/08/2021 16:39

The point about you being a MIL one day OP is not relevant as I'm sure if and when that time comes you will not be as annoying as your MIL or overstep the mark.

Hope your visit goes well. It's so hard in the sleep deprived days so please put yourself and your baby first try not to let your MIL annoy you so much that she spoils this special time for you. She is just over excited. But, and this comes from my experience, she does need to realise her place as Grandmother is different to that of mother and unfortunately sometimes I think they get a bit confused!

One day you will not feel as annoyed about this trust me but you are perfectly entitled to feel as you do now. your DH needs to support you but again please don't let her come between you, you are your own little family unit now. Good luck x

BraveheartA · 23/08/2021 17:40

My own mother didn't expect to hold her own grandson on first meeting. She respectfully waited until I was comfortable. If I can even hold a candle to my own mother I'll consider myself a successful MIL, so no, my own DIL will not be forced into anything she's uncomfortable with.

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Nc4post99 · 23/08/2021 17:52

@Nextchapterofmybook

One day you will be a MIL when your boy has a baby. I hope you won’t except to hold your grandson when you visit him for the first time. Especially for a whole 20 minutes!

Think you are being a bit sensitive.

What a tedious comment
Notaroadrunner · 23/08/2021 17:59

A week in and you're already expected to visit people - to hell with that. You should be resting as much as possible. Your Dh needs to realise that having a baby is a major fucking deal and between hormones, body aches, feeding etc, you should not have to visit anyone. You appear to be able to put boundaries in place from what you have said, so keep that up. Don't be afraid to say no to mil. As for your Dh, I'd swing for him! He should be looking after you and making sure you are his priority, not his mother.

Anon9990 · 23/08/2021 18:17

I could have written this post.
I hope your ok OP.
Those first few weeks are extremely tough, I remember wanting to rip my baby from my MIL’s arms and blew a fuse when she kissed him (I don’t agree with ANYONE kissing babies not just because it was her)
It caused the mother of all arguments and I was accused of being unreasonable, unstable and even playing control games with my own baby 🤷🏽‍♀️
When really the blame lay with there DS who wasn’t willing to put boundaries down - by boundaries I mean a phone call before ‘popping in’ or sharing photos of us in Labour ward just after giving birth on fb.
So when I flipped when my baby was 3 weeks old after having them pop in every bloody day I was the bad one.
Your MIL is excited, but some MiL’s just don’t know when to stop, like you I have an angel of a mother who is a rock and doesn’t overstep every but dependable if I need her. I hope your visit goes ok and please try speak to your husband and get him to deal with this as I don’t want you getting the same accusations thrown at you like I did x

MayorGoodwaysChicken · 23/08/2021 18:25

Tell your husband if he doesn’t grow up and prioritise the needs of his wife who has just given birth to his child, he will rapidly find himself without either and that you will be taking the baby to your mum’s where there is someone willing to provide proper support to you at the time you most need it.

NessieMcNessface · 23/08/2021 18:25

Threads like this make me so cross. Why can’t MILs just be a bit more respectful and why can’t their sons just be a bit more assertive, instead of being pathetic and not supporting their partners? Even with my own daughter, I wouldn’t dream of being critical of the way she did things after she gave birth, or making any suggestions unless I was asked to do so. My DIL hasn’t had a baby yet but if and when she does I know I will put her feelings first even if it means I don’t see the baby for a while. She and I have already discussed the situation and I’ve told her that if I ever start behaving like some of the MILs you hear about on here she’s to tell me straight!

EnglishRain · 23/08/2021 18:32

This time is so precious. I wouldn't expect to hold a newborn for 20 mins. I would love to hold them for a minute or two, but that's it. They're tiny and new and I think it's natural for any new mother to want to hold their baby for every second of the day at this age. It would be more odd if one didn't. Don't let your DH or your MIL trample over you OP. That baby has just come from your body. He doesn't know he isn't still part of your body. DD has just turned 1 and it took time for me to get used to her not being part of me. Having others play pass the parcel is so awful to be on the other side of. You want to do something and take your baby back but it almost feels like you can't. But you can. Your DH is being a prick. Show him this thread.

BraveheartA · 23/08/2021 20:26

Has to be said this is my first ever post on mumsnet and I'm truly grateful for all this support.
MIL has already tried to take him off me this evening as soon as I'd done feeding (this was after she tried to walk in on me feeding), then when i refused and said I'd be putting him down in his cot so that he could rest she started fussing over him, moving him around as he'd spit up a bit and saying I should put a blanket beneath his mouth to catch the the spit up. I tried to point out that advice is not to put anything in crib with them except for tight blankets due to risk of sids and she couldn't wrap her head around it, trying to convince me it would be ok.

I think I'm going to lose my mind 🤦🏽‍♀️ I've politely but firmly told her at the moment that I'm not really going to let him out of my sight at the moment and going to be a bit possessive of him for a while, hoping that's served as a warning.

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maybemu · 23/08/2021 20:32

@Aquamarine1029

Your husband is absolutely useless. I would be having some very firm words.
Useless but he is clearly helping with baby. God the women on this page. I hope you all have girls and never to be a mother in law. Imagine holding the baby for 20 whole minutes?! Mate let her hold the baby and go and have a nap
maybemu · 23/08/2021 20:33

@BraveheartA

My own mother didn't expect to hold her own grandson on first meeting. She respectfully waited until I was comfortable. If I can even hold a candle to my own mother I'll consider myself a successful MIL, so no, my own DIL will not be forced into anything she's uncomfortable with.
Your mother didn't hold the baby when she met them?!! What?! You sound nuts
frazzledasarock · 23/08/2021 20:36

Why would mothers of daughters not become MIL’s @maybemu?

maybemu · 23/08/2021 20:40

@frazzledasarock

Why would mothers of daughters not become MIL’s *@maybemu*?
Oh you know what I mean! It's always the evil mum of the husband on Mumsnet! Never the wife
BonsaiBonsai · 23/08/2021 20:53

I do think you are being a bit precious OP. I understand how you feel having had two children and a MIL I don't always see eye to eye with. But your MIL is your DH family and by default your family too. She is the grandmother of your child whether you like it or not. She wants to be involved and your DP, your child's father, wants her to be involved too.

You can either demand your own way and risk falling out with her forever, leaving your poor DP stuck in the middle playing referee forever. Or you can choose your battles, smile and nod and ignore her as much as possible. Choose your battles OP.

I should also add, my own DM is the over bearing one. I've spent years eye rolling and internally face palming at her nonsense.

AlexandraQueen · 23/08/2021 21:01

You didn't want your mum or mil to hold their grandson the first time they met him! God, you sound hard work. I can't imagine expecting grandparents to wait days before coming round either! I really don't understand why you're annoyed she rang to see how you were doing?

Unsolicited advice, fair enough, but she was probably just trying to make conversation. Just say something like "funny how guidance changes! Current guidance says to do this..."

Lulu1919 · 23/08/2021 21:03

If or When my daughter has a baby and I visit I can't imagine not holding my new grandchild....eeekkk maybe I'd better be better prepared !