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Interfering mother in law

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BraveheartA · 23/08/2021 13:13

Hi all, was just looking for some advice re my mother in law and boundaries, if anyone's had a similar experience or if I'm just overreacting.

My relationship with my mother in law has always been tenuous - she was nearly the reason for calling off our wedding as she demanded to be allowed to invite her extended friends/family (it doubled our guest list).

Things have improved vastly since then and we get along relatively amicably.

Unfortunately since our baby was born last week things have become difficult again. On the evening I gave birth (took 2 days of induction with various complications), she asked hubby to let her know when we got home so she could come straight over. I had to gently tell her that I'd need a couple of days to recover first, but then realised that hubby's brother wouldn't be available (he has to drive them) later in the week so when I got home from hospital a day later I agreed they could pop round for a quick visit the next day. She sulked at first but then agreed.

When they came round they brought food and various bits, but then she keeps making little snippet suggestions - am I using this, have I been doing this with him, bombarding me with suggestions which I have to keep politely declining (she has a very old fashioned view to babies and all her advice whilst well meaning is outdated - I'm happy with the antenatal classes I've taken). Problem is she then becomes sullen when I decline her advice.

She also found out that we were going to go shopping together and immediately told me I should not be going as he would get a respiratory infection - I suppose she had a point as I've not had my covid vaccine yet so he has little immunity, but her way of telling me was extremely forthright.

She rang twice over the weekend to ask how the baby was getting on and has also rang hubby the day before at 10pm just as I'd fallen asleep after a sleepless night cluster feeding, which she said was ok because he goes to bed late and had to be told it wasn't because she'd just woken me up. On yesterday's call she asked what time baby went to bed, I said he hasn't got a solid time yet (he's a newborn?! He doesn't even have a fully established routine yet though we are working towards it), and she said ok well we'll come over at x time, didn't even ask if we were free or anything just invited herself round.
I had to politely decline and said we were having dinner soon ( she wanted to come in 3 hours time) but maybe we'd come visit later in the week.

Again, she picked a day without asking and said she'd see us then then was about to ring off! I had to tell her we had plans that day so it would more likely be the day before, as we were having our vaccines so would come after. She immediately said that we'd drop the baby off with her then (presumably because she's panicking again about us taking him in somewhere - we weren't going to, we were going to go in in turn as it's a walk in centre now). I told her the day before that I wasn't expressing yet so he'd have had no food or anything to be left with.

Not only that, this is my first baby; it's not that I'm being possessive but this is all extremely new to me and I just want to be left alone to bond with him. My own mum never asked if she could do anything, only told me that she was at my beck and call should I want her and to only do what I was comfortable with ie letting people hold baby.
Well when MIL came round that day when he was 2 days old, hubby took baby for a nappy change, when came back down he said oh grandma can hold him now, quickly asked if it was ok with me which of course I couldn't say no as would be rude. She sat there holding him for 20 minutes and not only was I utterly exhausted still as we'd only gotten home from hospital the previous night quite late (I was practically falling asleep in front of them - they'd been there over an hour by that point), it was taking all my instincts not to rip her back off him.

In the end I had to tell her I was taking him back as we were both going for a lie down. They still proceeded to stay an extra hour after I'd left.

When I asked hubby why he did that, he said that he knew I'd find it hard to give him up so he did it on purpose to try and break that for me.

We are going to see them today, and I'm absolutely dreading it. Twice I've broken down in sobs in front of hubby - yes it is probably partly hormone influenced and I think he thinks that's all it is - but he just thinks I'm overreacting and should just continue to be firm with her as I have done when she keeps interfering. I just don't want to have to - she should be more understanding. When I told him that it wasn't going to turn into a game of pass the parcel with baby either, his response was "why not?".

Sorry for the long post but aside my own parents I don't have anyone who's been through this before to talk to about it, am I just being an overreactive new mum???

OP posts:
Nc4post99 · 23/08/2021 21:10

And you sound mean @maybemu. Ultimately her child, her rules.

Why can’t you understand giving the mother, who’s basically just been through an ordeal in terms of birth and trying to establish breastfeeding, a bit of space to recover and adjust! It’s perfectly reasonable! You’d think nothing of it if someone who had surgery asked for a few days at home to recoup. Ultimately if anyone has an issue they are putting their own selfish desires to coo over a baby for a few hours over the physical and emotional well-being of the mother. I think it’s you who sounds like hard work to be honest with you.

Nc4post99 · 23/08/2021 21:11

Second part of that comment was for @AlexandraQueen

WavesAndLeaves · 23/08/2021 21:13

Every mother is different @maybemu. I found it really hard to be apart from my baby at all. I guess you found it easier. Neither is better, just different. So do shut the fuck up and be supportive of another mother who needs her boundaries respected.

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Brollypackedforscottishholiday · 23/08/2021 21:18

Allowing a close relative to hold your dc as a newborn is surely automatic? She wasn't suggesting taking it to Tesco or even out of your sight...
You will tie yourself up in knots op. The early days are hard enough...

WavesAndLeaves · 23/08/2021 21:23

@Brollypackedforscottishholiday

Allowing a close relative to hold your dc as a newborn is surely automatic? She wasn't suggesting taking it to Tesco or even out of your sight... You will tie yourself up in knots op. The early days are hard enough...
Nope. I was actually fine with my in-laws and parents holding our baby, but my husband was having kittens, even with his mum. Just because it's automatic for you doesn't mean it is for everyone
Sweetpeasaremadeofcheese · 23/08/2021 21:29

You do sound a bit over the top. With my babies I did restrict visits to maybe once a week so we could recover but while they were here you better believe they were snuggling that bub the whole time. We got heaps of lovely photos and they got that little piece of bonding time. That's the best time for baby snuggles, when they sleep for hours on end.

Disfordarkchocolate · 23/08/2021 21:32

Your husband needs to step up before you end up with more than a few tears.

It's good you're standing up for yourself but it shouldn't be just up to you.

Chocolatetrifle · 23/08/2021 21:36

We are not talking about a reasonable person here though, OP has advised there is history between them. Her MIL does sound overbearing and we all know that some people can be like that. Yes, she is family, yes she is OP's husband's mother but for goodness sake she needs to wind her neck in and let OP breathe and let her be mum. Some mums are just not ready to hand baby over immediately, especially after a difficult birth but that doesn't make it wrong. With you on this one OP because I've been there @BraveheartA. Incidentally I had an almighty row with my in-laws when DS1 as 4 months old. I was sick of the comments and sick of being expected to be for when they wanted to visit even if it didn't suit me.

3 years and another son later I am much calmer and our relationship is absolutely fine, and my MIL is grand. Not as many comments and I just brush them away if there are. I still stand by my thoughts at the time which is why I'm on this thread supporting you to let you know you are not alone. I do think some MIL are competitive with the DIL, it's like it brings the birth of their son and your DH back to the surface. I hope it all settles down for you OP.

Chocolatetrifle · 23/08/2021 21:43

I note you've had a son OP, I bet your MIL would be slightly different if you'd had a daughter. Again, this just makes me think she is imagining your son as her baby son , your DH.
I know people will correct me on this but it's just a theory I have to explain some of the crazy behaviour. Hopefully she will calm in time and you will reach a point where you are happy for her to see your DS. Good luck x

BraveheartA · 23/08/2021 21:47

Wow, a very sudden and insensitive change of tack from a few here. Perhaps I won't be coming back after all. I can assure you all that I am certainly not crazy or hard work. I am simply an overwhelmed first time mum with a MIL who has already nearly sabotaged my relationship with my husband - something even he acknowledges - through wanting her own way.
Whilst I appreciate that her eagerness comes from a good place, I am trying very hard to navigate through extremely unfamiliar territory - I am not a natural baby person who has an automatic wealth of knowledge. When my baby was born I didn't even know how to hold him. This week has been an extraordinary learning curve, without having my baby used as a game of pass the parcel. If you don't have those instincts to hold onto your child then good for you, but I don't think I'm in the wrong for wanting to constantly be close to him every second of every day and judging by the other comments on here that seems to be quite natural.

Thank you to everyone else who was supportive, you've really made today a lot easier knowing that I'm not alone. DH has had an indirect and kind but firm word with her today, so hopefully she will understand where the boundaries lie now.

OP posts:
Chocolatetrifle · 23/08/2021 21:53

@BraveheartA, glad your DH has had a word with his mum.
Ps. any time you want to take your baby back, if someone is holding him, you do it. You carried him, gave birth to him, what you say goes and your MIL will soon understand.

Throughabushbackwards · 23/08/2021 21:54

If the visits are causing you anxiety OP then everyone around you should respect that. There's no right and wrong here, go with your gut feeling and shut yourself away from it all for a few days. You need to rest and bond with your baby in the way that feels right for you Thanks

pecanmix · 23/08/2021 22:03

It's so difficult after having baby. I remember being utterly terrified to give my dd to anyone. It didn't help that I had an infection, everyone was swooping down on me and wanting to hold her. She wasn't eating and I was just so scared. Still recovering and ill. I then developed PND/PNA. You will relax about it eventually - it is completely normal to feel like that. Don't let people make you feel like it isn't.

EKGEMS · 23/08/2021 22:06

@BraveheartA You are doing very well-you aren't hard work or whatever other insult some of the prior posters are saying. You just gave birth and are trying to establish a routine. You should sit your husband down and try to explain to him you have essentially passed a pineapple through your birth canal and are trying to figure out motherhood. You are doing great!

ScabbyHorse · 23/08/2021 22:24

Congratulations on your new baby. I hope you can have stronger boundaries with her. Also when you say the phone woke you up, can you take it off the hook/put it on silent after say 8pm? She shouldn't be ringing you at 10! So cheeky. She needs putting in her place.

CorianderBee · 23/08/2021 22:26

@maybemu of course it's usually the husbands Mum on Mumsnet. It's Mumsnet (aka mostly women) so there aren't many husbands on here to complain about their MIL.

Kite22 · 23/08/2021 23:34

Congratulations on your new baby.

I'm with maybemu , BonsaiBonsai , AlexandraQueen , Lulu1919 , Brollypackedforscottishholiday and Sweetpeasaremadeofcheese however.

I get the exhaustion. I struggled hugely with my dc1 as a newborn. But that is even more reason to have family on side and to feed their need to help. There isn't anything in your posts that make your ds's grandmother sound like a nightmare. She sounds loving, and keen to offer help. You even said she brought round food.
I can't imagine not letting people hold my babies when they came to visit.

SailorJayne · 13/09/2021 08:49

Congratulations on your baby! I’m currently 12 weeks pregnant and we’re planning on telling MIL soon and I’m absolutely dreading it. She doesn’t exactly like me and neither does my BIL and his girlfriend who both had a baby last year. (Very stuck up family, no idea where my fiancé came from as he’s nothing like them) She’s so overbearing and myself and my partner lived with her for a while before we could move into our apartment which was hell. I heard so many arguments between her and BIL’s girlfriend when it came to the baby because MIL was so up her ass every day of the week. The baby was born right in the middle of the first lockdown so there was no visiting of holding for obvious reason but MIL would not stop begging to hold him and would come into the house when she was out and it was just BIL and baby. I found it so disrespectful and despite not particularly liking BIL’s girlfriend I felt so sorry for her. MIL even tried to move into their house when the baby was born. Now that I’m pregnant I’m really not looking forward to her climbing into my asshole and trying to be here all the time doing everything I’ve asked her not to with the baby. My fiancé will stand up to her but as soon as she gets upset he feels bad and backs down and then I’m the asshole for having to say no. We live in a 1 bedroom apartment and it’s pretty small and she already tries to be here 24/7 before baby and I just won’t allow it. I’m double jabbed but I’m still really weary about COVID and don’t really want anyone to be here as cases are rising rapidly in my area. I completely feel for you because I just know my MIL is going to be the same way, she’s a control freak.

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