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Stuck in a 2 bedroomed flat, no chance of moving to house unless we have another child so should we, have another baby I mean?

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anneboleyn · 19/10/2007 21:28

Don't know which topic to post this under. I am an old faithful but felt the need to lurk under a name change. Yes I am ashamed to be thinking of doing this but also feel it may be the only thing to do.

We do want another child one day, our other children are still very young but don't think I can bear living here and there is no chance of another house coming up for us. There are always 30 people or so up the list. We pay our rent, are good tenants, just want a bit more space, a garden and get away from this locked in flat we are stuck in.

Another baby would give us many more points, we would want it too, our children are our joy, it's just it would be now rather than when we should really have it.

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spookthief · 19/10/2007 21:31

Well, as long as you're fine with having 5 of you in a 2 bed flat in case your plan doesn't come off....

moljam · 19/10/2007 21:31

are you serious?make a baby to get nicer house?

chankins · 19/10/2007 21:31

If you both want another one anyway at some point then I don't see what is wrong with this. You would just be speeding up the process which would hopefully be available to you further down the road.
It would,'t be nice if you wouldn't be having another child except for this reason. If not now then when should you really have this next child ?

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magnolia74 · 19/10/2007 21:32

So what if you are offered a 3 bedroom flat

ArmadilloDaMan · 19/10/2007 21:32

How would you cope with an extra child in the flat you are in?

Cos you can get more points and move further up the list, but there could be an influx of people who get on the list with more points than you, or you still could be waiting for years because nothing suitable becomes available, council could decide to sell off some of their properties or something else might happen to them that would again delay you.

YOu really need to consider what you would do if you had an extra child and you didn't move for a long long time. Cos it could happen.

LyraSilvertongue · 19/10/2007 21:33

If I were you I wouldn't have a baby just to get a better house, but if you're planning to have another anyway, there's nothing wrong with bringing it forward to improve your living standards.

MerlinsBeard · 19/10/2007 21:34

so you want another child so you get to move house?

what if your plan fails? what if your bids don't go thru on teh house fornt? can you truely say that you wont resent that child if it falls thru?

chankins · 19/10/2007 21:35

Yes it is a possibilty that you wouldn't be moved right away - do you know how many council homes are available in your area ? There are hardly any in ours, needless to say with 3 kids we've been on list for over 5 yrs and I don'tthink have any chance of ever getting a house. I would love a fourth one day but would not deliberately have one to get us a bigger house. We rent privately at the moment and plan to earn more money and buy or part buy in next 2 yrs.

magnolia74 · 19/10/2007 21:35

How many in your household now? Coz we are a family of 7 in a 3 bed house!!! Another baby does not mean you will be moved.
If things are that bad put in for a transfer!

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anneboleyn · 19/10/2007 21:46

I know that you are right, all of you with your different reactions.

I wouldn't expect to have a baby and get instantly moved. I know it doesn't work like that but it would change our status from bronze to silver which would move us a lot further up the list.

We could just make our whole sistuation worse. I guess I am trying to think of a solution to help our family.

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LadyVictoriaOfCake · 19/10/2007 21:51

in our area, children dont count fully till they reach age 10. so even though our tenancy says 5 people can live here, with 2 adults and 3 childre, we are currently only have 3.5 people living here.

nutcracker · 19/10/2007 21:57

If you already have a 2 bed and then have a child of the same sex as your other child, you won't get moved anyway.

moljam · 19/10/2007 21:58

how many children do you have?

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anneboleyn · 19/10/2007 22:18

we have two children already, one male, one female.

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Elasticbandstand · 19/10/2007 22:19

mightn't you have to wait until eldest is 10 ie. sharing a room with opposite sex?

we did

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anneboleyn · 19/10/2007 22:24

but it would be three of them sharing a room, and it already is male and female sharing so wouldn't matter what sex the next one was.

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juuule · 19/10/2007 22:25

If this was me, I think I would be considering moving to somewhere else that I could afford even if it meant moving out of the area. Is there nowhere that you could move to with cheaper rents that offers more? What about increasing your income in some way to make something bigger/what you are looking for more within your reach? Having another baby to improve your housing chances just seems a bit odd to be honest. I would have thought sorting out the housing would come first unless you really want another baby/child regardless of situation.

MegBusset · 19/10/2007 22:29

Am very about this idea, just don't think it is what social housing should be about.

If a 15-year-old girl came on here and said "I'm going to have a baby to get a council flat" she would get short shrift, is this really any different?

SpookyDooooo · 19/10/2007 22:31

Sorry i disagree this won't work, firstly they will expect a baby to be in a room with you, how old are the 2 children you have now? each council has an age limit so until one of your children reaches that age limit they would expect your 3 children to share until your eldest reached 10 i think it is as you have one of each sex.

I know 2 people in council housing, 1 had 2 adults 3 children, girl of 7, boy of 4 & girl of 2, they lived in a 2 bedroom house.

Next family 3 adults one with down syndrome 2 children 1 baby 7 months (girl) 1 boy 5 years, they live in a 3 bedroom house, friend spoke to council before the baby arrived said they did not have enough room as obviously the adult (21 years old with downs) needs her own room, they said baby had to sleep with her if she wanted a room for her baby she & her partner would have to give up theres and sleep in the lounge!

It does not work please don't just have a child to get a bigger house it will end in tears!

xXxamyxXx · 19/10/2007 22:32

think its a bad reason to have a baby

snig · 19/10/2007 22:33

i know how you feel i really do. round here having another child does not get you another property. there are a severe lack of three/four bedroomed properties which mean that to get a three bedroom house you would probably need another two kids. we put ourselves on the transfer list but becos our homes our due to be demolished "soon" no one is really interested. i hope something works out for you.

SpookyDooooo · 19/10/2007 22:35

Think yourself lucky you have a home, i have been fighting a losing battle for over a year now & we still don't have one!

LadyVictoriaOfCake · 19/10/2007 22:37

oh spooky, i thought you had moved. whats happened?

Elasticbandstand · 19/10/2007 22:38

have the baby for other reasons. dc might have to share til oldest is 10 anyway.

twelveyeargap · 19/10/2007 22:38

No, no, no. The council could make you wait aaaages and even then they could move you to a three bed flat, rather than a house. Or you could end up in a place with teeny tiny bedrooms and no more space than you really have now anyway. Or another place with no garden.

I know how frustrating it is living in sh't accommodation. I did it for years. I even lived in one hole that had no window in one of the bedrooms ffs. Having another baby is not the answer though.

Wait to have your baby and enjoy it when it happens, instead of rushing.

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