Social Services children

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Lockdown has not been easy for my son with a 2 year old and a 4 year old and working from home. One extremely hot day his eldest would not go to bed and he slapped him. The child didnt even notice but it left a mark. They told childminder next day and it was reported to SS. My son had to move out and have no contact with his children. Its been 2 weeks and he has not heard a thing from them but his partner is becoming depressed and his eldest son has resorted to being naughty. I just dont know what to do as a grandparent

4 is so young. So very young. This is really not ok under any cicircumstances at all.

A hand tap is enough. And even that only in extreme life endangering cicircumstances.

I am way off being a perfect parent, way off, but there is no excuse.

As for her MH problems, I had and have MH problems resulting from DV. I don't think that you are taking this seriously enough.

I hope SS get her the support she needs to protect her children. If that means your son can't be there, fair enough.

They get support by being open and honest with social care and accepting the support offered. Your dil should seek gp support for her mental health.

You minimising the event as just one of those things is not going to help them, can you offer practical support such as having them for a day so your dil can look after herself?

This. To leave a mark on a healthy child you actually have to hit quite hard. I used to see mum slapping their children regularly when mine were little in the 90s- there was never a mark.

A grown man hitting a small child with that level of force could also cause serious injury. He did it in a temper, without trying to regulate the force of the blow. That is worrying. You also don't know what else may have come up in conversation with SS.

Why didnt you give this level of detail in the thread you started about this before?

Also, I very much doubt that the child didnt notice being slapped. As a Grandparent you can support his partner with the children. You cant intervene in a SS investigation, you need to let them do their thing.

The ‘slap’ left a mark and the child was sufficiently upset to tell the childminder. Yet you claim they ‘didn’t notice’. Even you know that’s bullshit.
I think you're right, but what has really bothered me is if there's a chance the child genuinely didn't respond to a parent being violent towards them, that suggests that either violence is a typical part of the household, or bullying behaviour is a common part of the household.

I don't mean to be funny, but you don't accidentally hit a child.

I assume he manages to go to work without hitting anyone who annoys him?

Lockdown has not been easy for me. As a single parent with a 2 and a 4 year old. Yet neither of my children have received a smack for refusing to go to bed.
How can you possibly justify smacking a child, hard enough to leave a mark, with the fact it was a hot day? Or a FOUR year old was refusing to go to bed.

You say the child didn’t even notice, were you there? Or just accepting blindly what your son has told you?

A tiny innocent little four year olds body being slapped hard enough to leave a mark?

What a great example your son is setting his children. Makes my blood boil. And shame on you for justifying his actions.
A grown man should walk away if he feels he’s losing his temper. Not slap a defenceless child.
Put all the excuses you want on it, it’s disgusting and disgraceful behaviour.