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Worried about DH's attitude to child safety

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Popacatakettle · 03/05/2020 07:13

Hello, first time post here from a longtime lurker. Worried and really not sure what to do next or if anyone else has experience of this type of situation.

DH and I have a nearly 7 month old DD. Safety has been a sticking point between DH and me since she was born (e.g. DH thought baby’s room should be higher than SIDS guidance - I’ve made sure it isn’t), but especially now as DD becomes more mobile.

Yesterday, DH again put DD sitting propped up in her now-outgrown Moses basket (the open type, with no hood) on its rocking stand a few feet away from him, while he did some washing up. The other day I found DD in the same situation while DH had left the room, apparently “for a minute”. Apparently he’s put her in the Moses like this a few times lately while I’ve been in the bathroom or resting due to (temporary) illness.

Because of her age and the fact that she can roll, I feel it really isn’t safe to put DD in the Moses when it’s on its stand (the rocking type), whether sitting or not. Even if he’s just a few feet away, I feel an accident could happen quickly, especially if DH is doing another task. I have told DH this and that we should put the stand in the garage.

DH thinks I’m totally overreacting and that what he was doing is fine. He also wants to keep the stand in the house as he doesn’t want the basket to touch the floor at any time, or for DD to be near the floor, because floors are dirty - DH says this is cultural (he’s originally from a country in Eastern Europe, whereas I’m British). DH also doesn’t want to store the Moses on a small table as “all our tables are full” (!) apparently. It must be stored on the stand. This worries me as I fear DH might do the same thing against, though he says he won’t.

DH says that regardless of safety guidance, DD wouldn’t be able to fall out of the basket while it’s on the stand because the “laws of physics” means this isn’t possible (DH is neither a physicist nor an engineer). He just doesn’t think it’s physically possible.

DH says he’s happy to accept that it’s not safe to put DD in certain situations (e.g. sitting up in the Moses basket) but that I have to “prove” to him that’s it’s not safe. Apparently he will accept the opinion of childcare experts but is reluctant to do so from countries such as U.K., US, Germany etc as he feels they are of a certain cultural ‘type’ that goes too far with H&S. Somewhere like Italy he might accept, apparently - not that either of us speaks the language - as he feels they are less ‘extreme’ about H&S there.

We recently bought a lovely, age-appropriate swaying chair with a harness that DD usually enjoys, but DH says it’s too heavy to move from the living room to the adjacent kitchen - even though I manage to do it fine and I’m literally half DH’s weight.

Yes, I’m sure we can find a safe practical solution (buy a playpen?) that we can both accept. But my concern is that DH is putting DD in unsafe situations and isn’t supervising her the way that he should be. There have been similar issues in the past e.g. putting DD on the sofa in her bouncy chair while he plays games on his phone - not even holding onto DD or the chair. Also carrying DD up and down the stairs in her bouncy chair. He just doesn’t accept that these situations are unsafe and is very resistant to my concerns. He says he just can’t think about safety the way that I do because he hasn’t grown up with it.

I just don’t know what to do. I’m worried about the situations that could arise not only now but in the future. DH works evenings so is often at home with us during the afternoons.

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crimsonlake · 03/05/2020 11:07

God help you, you are a new mother and living with a control freak who thinks he knows better than the experts, what a way to live.
This is going to continue all through your child's life, once lockdown is over I suggest you make a bid for freedom... I would not normally suggest this.

EastMidsMumOf1 · 03/05/2020 11:09

Tbh I didnt bother with a moses basket so I have no idea about using it as a toy box but if it was causing a safety issue by keeping it, it would be gone either into storage or in the bin.
You need to put your foot down with your DH, babies only get more dangerous as they grow and regardless of what his cultural thoughts are, safety is paramount.

Pinkblueberry · 03/05/2020 11:26

There's therefore no way DH would get rid of them and he hates getting rid of things anyway.

Ok well, the other option I mentioned it is then. To be honest, at seven months your DC will probably been fine if she takes a tumble out of the basket (although of course it should be avoided). You and her may not be so fine in the long run if you continue to live with this control freak. Get rid.

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lollipoplola · 03/05/2020 11:28

What would happen if you did bin these items?
This is a wider issue though because no doubt as soon as you solve one dangerous situation another will arise. It needs addressing properly.

Reginabambina · 03/05/2020 11:42

I’m sorry but his culture excuses are bullshit. My family is Eastern European, being a controlling prick isn’t part of the culture. To be very blunt Eastern European culture really suffered as a result of communism, I don’t think that declaring that some random thing you believe is an Eastern European cultural norm strengthens the argument.

Popacatakettle · 03/05/2020 11:44

The good news is that DH has responded well to me stashing the Moses and stand away. It seems that doing things decisively draws a line under certain issues.

Agree that lingering safety concerns remain though and need to be addressed.

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AnnaMagnani · 03/05/2020 11:49

Popacatakettle that's really encouraging. Perhaps if you are as decisive as his mother, rather than letting him argue the toss, he respects it?

It is reminding me of a friend who taught foreign students. She said she had a nightmare with the Saudi male students who clearly didn't respect her as a woman. When she asked them if they spoke to their mothers that way they all looked a bit sheepish. So she drew herself up to her full 5ft 3 and bellowed 'Well I am a mother' at them and had no more nonsense out of them after that.

Popacatakettle · 03/05/2020 11:50

This seems to be a pattern if I do things that DH doesn't like/disagrees with, its best to get it done when he's not at home or asleep. He seems to be able to accept things a lot better when it's a fait accompli. Perhaps another legacy of communism, PP, or maybe I'm reading into things to much.

Agree re impact of communism, PP. What I would describe as a systemic callousness and obtuseness seems to have been a result. This is based on observations far wider than just our little family.

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Popacatakettle · 03/05/2020 11:52

PP = ReginaBambina, sorry

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blackcat86 · 03/05/2020 12:02

I think if you're in any doubt about whether your relationship is abusive or simply wont last then reach out to your HV even as a listening ear so things start to be recorded - almost leaving breadcrumbs of evidence to support any concerns you may have post separation. He doesn't need to know. You should be able to seek support just for yourself. I found counselling really helped me assert my boundaries in a similar situation

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