Does shush pat really work??

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Have been trying baby whisperer technique for sleep routine and it's not working!!

How long have you been trying?

took ds 3 nights

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Not with DS2.

More like shush, pat, RAGE!

And more supportively - good luck...

How old is the baby? It worked briefly for DD when she was 4 months, then I just went back to bfing her into unconsciousness. I call it mummy mogadon now.

Try the no cry sleep guide, lots more ideas there and no-one calls your 'luv' (that always makes me want to kill)

worked with ds1 not 2 - "shush as loud as a running faucet" now I have the noisiest boy ever who has to go to sleep with the whole circus performing! But when not sleeping, hairdryer on full blast did the trick - crazzeeeyy baby!

One night is how long and I've gone back to pacing!

Yes, who wants to be called luvvie and talk about cups of tea when they are pulling their hair out!

How old is the baby?

However the book is weighty enough to momentarily stun yourself when you get really fed up.

Honestly, the only thing that helps is time. Babies get older, they learn to sleep. That's it. The rest is just fussing around hopefully!

I found the best thing for getting my (2) babies to sleep was to just have them sleep with me. Then when they got older they could sleep on their own.

He's 7 weeks and falls asleep for long periods by being walked or bounced, often and then lying on our chests.

Ah...well you know babies are born without circadian rhythms - they don't know to create melatonin for the first twelve weeks until they get used to the light/dark cycles. So I'm afraid shush pat just isn't going to work.

hes very young for the ssh pat but keep trying also the pick up put down aswell. It works much better when they are a little bit older. For such a young baby I would try some baby massage after a bath and getting into a little bedtime routine. Most babies of this age are walked bounced cuddled etc I wouldnt worry hes so young he needs lots of cuddles.Tummy time with mummy or daddy is lovely in a few weeks he will be to big for that

OB - pick up put down is not recommended till babies are four months old. Too over stimulating.

That's reassuring! I thought that we were doing something wrong. It does take an hour of a variety of tactics to get him to sleep but he has been sleeping for 6 hours at night, which is great

you lucky cow!! DD has only just started to do this and she's ten months old!!!!!

i tried the baby whisperer (and have a friend whose baby is text book - dont know how she did that ) then i gave up. I've lost count the number of times i've taken my ds for a walk in the pushchair or put him in the car to fall asleep (i know that's probably frowned upon by some but it works). he's now 16 months and goes to sleep on his own. Honestly it does get easier

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BW herself admits that her techniques are not designed to work on babies less than 3 months (this is on her website). I wish I'd known that when I read her book. We tried BW PUPD on DD when she was 8 weeks and it was a disaster.
Shush pat never worked for DD, but she is a determined, subborn, independent and spirited little girl (follows DH, obviously!) and I don't think any technique would work on her if she didn't want it to. We do CC for DD to go to sleep, and have had the same bedtime routine and CC for 6 months, and she still cries before she goes to sleep. Only for a minute or two, but it's as though she has to register her protest.
Sorry, probably not what you want to hear! I'm sure BW does work for some babies, hope you're lucky and yours is one of them.

IMHO most important thing to remember with BW is that the stuff about starting as you mean to go on, not creating bad habits is a load of arse.
I was so worried about that as we also rocked, walked bounced etc for ages to get her to sleep but then at 3 months I turned round one day and there she was asleep on her playmat!
They are developing and learning new stuff all the time and going to sleep on their own is a new trick they do when old enough. until then do whatever it takes and don't feel guilty!

The book "how to calm, connect" etc is misleading and is really designed for correcting "accidental parenting" but the second book she did "the babywhisperer solves all your problems" she breaks it down into months.

I found that book better. I did BW EASY routine with DS1 he was a dream after that, reading his cues and realising when he was tired etc (have you seen the program The Baby Whispere on Discovery Health? It hasn't been on for a while so should be due to be shown again soon) he slept in a cot from day1.

DS2 was poorly baby so he slept on ME during the day until he was almost 1 year old BUT slept in his cot at night. Had to put him to bed slightly dopey with sleep. I then did PD (as he was too old for PU) worked a treat.

I honestly did whatever it took to get him to sleep when he was really little, then just went with the flow after that but once you are no longer exhausted you can look at re-working your methods.

It just used to infuriate mine.

Worked with ds but I used to pat his bottom when he slept on my tummy. One day that just stopped working so I put him in his cot and did pat shush. It worked first time. He was 4 months.

When I tried it with dd at 10 wks it just made her cry. She couldn't understand why I wouldn't pick her up if I was there.

Just thought I'd add that my 2 didn't sleep through ( and then its on and off) till they were 2. So just a few weeks ago for dd.
And then it all stops with ear infections, bugs, teeth etc. sorry I'm not helping....

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