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Before anyone starts I am not by any means saying vaccines cause autism because well they don't. And yes my one year old is vaccinated.. But I was just wondering do people say any vaccines cause it? If it was true would they have got autism as soon as they had there 1st lot? Or just the mmr one? (Do they specifically say the mmr is the one that causes it?) Sorry if this doesn't make sense I know what I'm trying to say

Basically my daughter is having her mmr on the 18th and I've had three people tell me that's the one they're unsure of?? I'm getting it done regardless I just wanted some positive re assurance? That's why I ask if ALL vaccines causes autism, it would of by now when she had them done the first time, and getting an mmr wouldn't make a difference? If that makes sense??

It’s because a doctor who has since between struck off for unethical behaviour produced a misleading report saying mmr causes autism.

No vaccinations cause autism.

There are plenty people who believe the world is flat, too. OP. Just coz a lot of people believe it don't make it true.

Thanks and yeah I don't believe them really but it just made me worry but she's having it regardless 100%

All 3 of mine had the mmr, the only reaction we ever had was a bit of a temperature. 18 years later and they're all fine.

She is just as likely to have caught autism from her first jabs as from the MMR, yes. Because no vaccinations cause autism. If people tell you they do, smile and nod. Or, tell them you’d rather have an autistic child than a dead child, killed by a preventable disease such as measles.

Vaccines CAN cause autisim and serious illness in certain children. Not saying they will in your case, and mosy likely wont if othet vaccines haven't caused any damage. If you read any vaccine insert, it will clearly state that 1 in 10,000 will get rare side effects, like fluid of the spinal cord, brain damage and guillain barre syndrome etc " this is FACT and stated on every single vaccine insert, goverment websites, and many more REAL resources that aren't fake news. I'm in no way telling you you shouldn't have your baby vaccinated but people should be educated about them and not dismissed at every chance when expressing concerns. Death over measles? measles are no more dangerous than chicken pox.. And very very rarely (less than 10,000) get any side effects from having meseals) Also my little girl got a severe case of the measles after her jabs a few years ago. (which lead me to edcuate myself on it)

Measles is not like chickenpox.

I didn't say they are alike, I said measles are no more dangerous than chicken pox, both CAN cause very rarely cause serious side effects.

No causal association between MMR & Guillain Barre Syndrome.

Measles outbreak in Europe is especially bad this year. That's on top of the Mumps outbreak currently in the UK.

guillain barre syndrome was an example of what vaccines CAN cause, sorry if that wasn't clear. A bad example too as this post is about the MMR and not others. Measles Vaccine is a live virus, which can "shed" and be contagious. most people who caught it were already vaccinated. Like I said, I wasn't telling the OP that she shouldn't get her child the jab, but should be allowed to make a REAL educated choice without being completely dismissed that her concerns are not real

Fates of 3300 people catching measles in the Netherlands, yr ~ 2000.
"Three patients died, and 16% had complications."

Vaccines don’t cause “autisim” (sic). That claim has been completely disproven. Yes there may be rare side effects but far far far less likely than the awful possible side effects of catching the actual illnesses.

She specifically asked about autism. Vaccinations don’t cause autism, though there may be other side effects. As with anything, you weigh the benefits against the possibility of side effects.
One train thought there might be a connection is that autism is often diagnosed about the same time as a child would have the mmr vaccination. But there isn’t a connection.

One thing that seriously needs weighing up is that vaccines work through the herd being vaccinated. When rates dip, it’s dangerous because the vaccinations don’t work for anyone and vaccinated DC can get ill. So vaccinate DC. It’s vital for all children. Only a few should not be vaccinated due to existing medical issues.

Measles treatment is "bed rest and plenty of fluids" As it is a mild illness. Very very very rarely it causes complications. Does that article tell you what these complications were? was it a runny nose, or was it something more sinister? does it take into account the individuals health, age living conditions, before contracting Measles? 85% of the population need to be vaccinated for "herd immunity" to be reliant. Immunity doesnt last forver, as each year passes it gets lower. there is no such thing. 1 patient was fully vaccinated against the illness, but still contracted it..

Autisim is technically brain damage.. the vaccine can cause brain damage. OP I suggest you do some research if you're worried and make an edcuated and informed decision for your child.

The reason that people tend to link autism and MMR (in addition to the dodgy research mentioned above) is that, developmentally speaking, the first signs of autism often become noticeable around the same age that babies have the MMR (soon after a year).

There has been lots and lots of research into this. There is categorically NO link between vaccines and autism (although vaccines do carry a small risk, as also stated above).

You forgot about the dark, MammaBear. Need dark.
There was a fervent anti-vaxer on MN (spidermama).
Her family was at centre of small measles outbreak. In local newspapers.
She talked about her experience on MN.
She even admitted it had been exhausting experience to care for so many ill children at once.

Tired voices in the dark crying out for water.
Dark to protect the eyes of her children.
Days of tiptoeing around the house due to all the ill people who couldn't handle loud noise.
Barricaded in her house as local journalists took an interest.
Nobody harmed, all recovered fine.
I couldn't stampede to GP fast enough to get DS vaxxed.

I’ve had measles, mumps and rubella as a child. (My parents were advised by GP not to give me vaccines for these illnesses due to medical condition.)
It was bloody awful and my mum really feared she would lose me.
My kids are vaccinated.

@Pinapplefish has hit the nail on the head. My brother in law is a neurologist and he said it's the timing rather than anything that singles out the MMR. For example, the signs and symptoms of autism typically begin to start within 6 - 12 months within the one year mark, when most children have the first round of mmr vaccination.

Hope that helps a bit OP. I too was very anxious with mine but all she had was a bit of diarrhoea. It's totally normal to feel nervous about it but once it's out of the way you will be so glad you made the right decision.

@lljkk Yes, you're right I forgot to mention darknes.Of course it would be exhausting looking after ill children, No one is saying these illness' are pleasnt. Also, I'm not an antivaxxer if that's what you're implying.

This has actually worried me a bit now. I know I have to get them done but brain damage can happen which I never knew. Is it safer to do the 4 injections in 2 sittings instead of putting it all into her small body at once?

She gets very very grumpy can't be put down when she just has 2. She will not sleep the whole night until 9/10 am the following day and screams when I try place her down which I assume will be because of sore legs