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cherrycokex · 07/07/2019 22:16

Before anyone starts I am not by any means saying vaccines cause autism because well they don't. And yes my one year old is vaccinated.. But I was just wondering do people say any vaccines cause it? If it was true would they have got autism as soon as they had there 1st lot? Or just the mmr one? (Do they specifically say the mmr is the one that causes it?) Sorry if this doesn't make sense I know what I'm trying to say

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HippyChickMama · 09/07/2019 16:20

Autisim is technically brain damage

No it isn't FFS! Autism is a neurodevelopmental condition that is most certainly not caused by vaccination. My ds (vaccinated) has autism, I (vaccinated but no MMR because I am old) have autism, my dad (again, limited vaccines because of his age) also has autism. I don't think it's the MMR that's the causal link there @MammaBear28!
FWIW, I had measles as a child and I remember it being very painful, not being able to open my eyes, lying on the sofa crying with the curtains closed. It was awful. Children can die from measles, please @cherrycokex Google NHS Rachel's story and watch the video if you're still unsure.

Wolfiefan · 09/07/2019 16:26

Serious side effects are MUCH MUCH more likely from the illnesses. That’s why we vaccinate. Don’t let scaremongering put you off OP.

Starlive23 · 09/07/2019 19:39

@Mammabear measles isn't a mild illness it can bloody kill people.

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mindutopia · 09/07/2019 20:19

There is a difference between correlation and causation (I’m a clinical scientist). Whenever there are adverse events reported from pharmaceutical trials or general use, it has to be published in the inserts. It doesn’t mean the vaccine caused the adverse event, just that they happened in a similar time frame. If serious enough events cluster, then it has to be investigated and a drug/vaccine can be pulled from the market. Just because someone (or even 10,000 people) had a reaction doesn’t mean much when it prevents an even worse event in millions.

I got a GI infection last year (from eating a dodgy chorizo on holiday). It triggered what I believe now is reactive arthritis (inflammatory arthritis, much like rheumatoid arthritis, though in theory it should one day get better, hasn’t so far though after about 8 months of pain). That’s a rare adverse event to an otherwise normal safe routine experience. That doesn’t mean I go around telling people that sausages are dangerous or that I won’t eat sausages again in the future. The same is true of vaccines.

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