OK, HV says I should NOT worry about DS bed wetting until he is 7 but surely, there should be something I can try in the mean time... is it?

[IsabelWatchingItRainInMacondo]

OK. He is 4.5 years old, has been potty trained since he was 3. No accidents whatsoever during the day but the night time has been a bit patchy.

He was dry over night for a month or so, before we stopping using the nappies, as soon as we removed them (a few months ago) he started having accidents. Although he had about 30% of the time when he made his way to the toilet or was dry in the mornings.

The thing became worse a couple of months ago, so we decided to lift him for a wee before we going to sleep. So the situation now is that although we ensure he doesn't have more drinks after 7, goes to the toilet before his bath, and again before going to bed at 8:00. If we don't lift him by midnight he just wets the bed.

We have tried lifting him at different times, ensure he is awake when he goes to the toilet, etc. but nothing seems to work. It looks as if he relax in the knowledge we will lift him and I have not a clue about how to help him to take more of that responsability himself.

Any ideas?

We take care he doesn't have any liquids after 7. Ensure he goes to the toilet before going to bed at 8:00.

There were some points in the past months when he started waking up in the middSince the bed wetting has become a daily event since February we have been lifting him up at different times for him to go. This has been going on

In the last mon

Give it a rest. Put him back in pull-ups at night. My DS1 didn't become dry until he was 6 3/4. Don't stress about it now.

hasn't it been proven taht some kids' bodies grow faster than their bladders and therefore can't cope at night?

Personnaly I believe if theyjust are'nt waking for a wee then there is not alot you can do about it, apparently there is some hormone that kicks in before the age of 7 that stops them weeing while asleep.

dd2 was still wetting the bed until age 5/6.

Shw went back into nappies on and off until we finally cracked it but there was nothing that actually helped, it just happened over time.

my ds is still in nappies at night, he will be 7 in Feb.

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I have been think about putting him in nappies again, more so because he doesn't use the nappy. But after all this time, I'm starting to wonder if he will start using it again.

Besides... the nappy is making his eczema a bit worse in the area (still feeling very tempted though)

Different children become dry at night at different times,apparently there is a hormone that needs to kick in for them to be abel to wake naturally if required, and at that age it is not uncommon to not be dry. We found that certain drinks like apple juice and lemonade and overtiredness (heavy sleep) made an accident more likely even older than that so might be worth looking fro any possible triggers. Have never restricted drinks of water or lifted as think neither is beneficial long term. tbh it is really too young to worry otherwsie

Thank you for your posts and the link to the other thread.

I have also wondered about the hormone thing, but considering that 6 months ago he was dry every morning (while using nappies), would the hormone still be a problem?

Interesting that you mention about over tiredness. When he is too tired the problem gets worse .

Have to say that I have found your words very reasuring. Obviously, it is not that we end up discussing bed wetting (very much) with other people in RL. So I didn't know it was such a regular problem.

Still feel a bit concerned about the sleepovers though Any suggestios on how to deal with those? or should I just hand the other mum a couple of nappies?

Well, DS1 just took his pyjama pants to sleepovers, and I asked the other mum (hi Doddle!) to make sure he put them on.

My son was still wet at night until he went to school at 4yr 7mo. I was able to consult the school nurse before he started and she suggested the following;
Continue waking child to wee before your bedtime.
Child to have last meal no later than 6pm
Drink a lot of fluid during the day, but limit after 6pm. This will encourage the bladder to stretch, reduced volume of concentrated urine won't do this and may reduce the signals that the bladder is full.
Avoid sweets, chocolate, food and drinks with colourings, and milk before bed, try to have these earlier in the day as they are all stimulants.
No fizzy drinks.
Do not offer rewards for dry beds, the child only feels bad on the times they wake up wet.
One night my son announced that he didn't want to wear nappy pants any more, and started to be dry at night. Generally, the kidneys slow down urine production during sleep, but recognising the full bladder signal while asleep and waking to do something about it comes in time.

Thank you

A little update here, I have been putting him in nappies at night since then and...he has not got wet at all.

It was exactly like that before we stopped using nappies last time.

Is my child ready but has mental block?

Not sure if I should do more than leaving him in nappies for the time being but thought of mentioning to see if somebody had experience of something like this.

bumpidibump

I think maybe hard as it sounds because pretty much like Dino, my ds 6.6 mths has been thankfully mainly dry in the last six months but managed to have an accident two nights ago. You seem to be doing everything by the book. I think you should try not to stress so much. Annoying and worrying as it may seem now, it does usually tend to right itself mostly over time.

.6 years even! Think that's my signal for bed!

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By saying you are doing everything by the book, I mean doing everything right.

I'm not stressing at the moment, actually I'm enjoying the bliss of not having to calculate when to lift him to avoid an accident.

What puzzles me is that he is completely dry when wearing nappies in bed, but finds it imposible to stay dry overnight if not wearing nappies.

Last time was exactly the same, we decided to take him out of the night nappies after weeks of being dry, but he just went back to square one instead.

He manages to wake up and walk himself to the toilet if wearing nappies, but can't at all (or totally forgets if he is not using the nappies),

Would he be a candidate for one of those alarm thingies that goes off if you wet? I wouldn't dream of getting one for ds (same age as your ds) as he has never ever had a dry night, but it sounds as if it could work for your ds.

Yay! I think I just finally worked it out! (the mistery of the clean nappies, not the bed wetting itself)

He was just crying a minute ago in his sleep because he couldn't pull the nappy down. I took him to the toilet and back to bed without him waking up. Wonder if he was dreaming he was in the bathroom when wetting the bed, he obviously was upset at not being able to get the nappy out of the way.

Not that it gets me nearer to find a solution, though.

Interesting about the nappies/no wet beds.

Is he in actual nappies or pull ups?

pull ups, but still more difficult for him to pull them down than his pants, particularly if he is asleep.

my sister was dry before 3 then started wetting bed when my mum went into hospital. She then wet bed until 9 or 10.. My mum changed sheets every morning with no comment, she did eventually grow out of it ( at about 10) My own DS was 7 before reliably dry. use the pull ups, these are easier for them to pull down themselves. And DONT WORRY. will def grow out of it even if not as soon as you want!

Firstly, loads of children aren't dry at night, at his age.

But obv the nappy issue is playing a part here. I wonder if he feels 'safe' in the nappy, so less anxious; if he has no nappy, there's a slight concern he may wet the bed. I have found it's v common in children to gravitate toward the very thing they don't want to do, in this case the bed wetting.

Can you try putting pants on him, underneath the pull ups? See how he goes then and, if possible, put him in a bigger size of pull up so that he's less conscious of it being there( pull ups being snug) before going on to lose the pull ups and keep the pants?