OK, HV says I should NOT worry about DS bed wetting until he is 7 but surely, there should be something I can try in the mean time... is it?

[IsabelWatchingItRainInMacondo]

OK. He is 4.5 years old, has been potty trained since he was 3. No accidents whatsoever during the day but the night time has been a bit patchy.

He was dry over night for a month or so, before we stopping using the nappies, as soon as we removed them (a few months ago) he started having accidents. Although he had about 30% of the time when he made his way to the toilet or was dry in the mornings.

The thing became worse a couple of months ago, so we decided to lift him for a wee before we going to sleep. So the situation now is that although we ensure he doesn't have more drinks after 7, goes to the toilet before his bath, and again before going to bed at 8:00. If we don't lift him by midnight he just wets the bed.

We have tried lifting him at different times, ensure he is awake when he goes to the toilet, etc. but nothing seems to work. It looks as if he relax in the knowledge we will lift him and I have not a clue about how to help him to take more of that responsability himself.

Any ideas?

We take care he doesn't have any liquids after 7. Ensure he goes to the toilet before going to bed at 8:00.

There were some points in the past months when he started waking up in the middSince the bed wetting has become a daily event since February we have been lifting him up at different times for him to go. This has been going on

In the last mon

HV said same to me, the minute DS2 was age 7 off we trot to Dr, get a referral to continence nurse (horrid title but she was loverly) who says ........wait for it....... she was amazed that we waited so long, here have some desmopressin and hey presto immediate dry bed.
Literally 4 months later we did a trial week without the desmopressin, dry bed and not looked back.
A long winded way of saying just bypass HV and get a referral to continence clinic. We would have saved a lot of heartache for DS if we had realised that the treatment could have started earlier. Heigh ho

Thank you for your posts.

I will try the pants under the nappy tomorrow night. And see how it goes.

Localgirl, thanks for posting. I'm sure he will eventually be clean at night, but when that would be... I can only expect that soon enough.

Interesting that you nention that Ju. When I first posted this thread I was expecting the same scenario you describe. DS has had moulscum contagiosum since 2 years ago and we were always told not to worry unless they got near to the eyes... Fine they are inside the eyelids now... but would they refer DS for an appointment??? no, they won't. (I have had a bad day with GP today... I'm still fuming)

We were not allowed to the eneusesis clinic until ds was 7. By the sound of it your ds does not have eneuresis (night time bed wetting) more a dependence on having pyjama pants on.

The nurse's suggestions were:
Drink plenty at regular intervals throughout the day (to increase bladder capacity, so he can hold more, for longer in the night)

Only drink clear liquids for the three hours before bed

DO NOT lift him as this trains his brain to think "I don't need to wake myself up for a wee, Mummy will wake me instead"

However, I think you just need to go along with Wandering Trolley's idea of wearing pants in bed or perhaps the new style of pull-up that is more like a pair of boxers?

Please try not to worry

Good luck Isabel

"HV said same to me, the minute DS2 was age 7 off we trot to Dr, get a referral to continence nurse (horrid title but she was loverly) who says ........wait for it....... she was amazed that we waited so long, here have some desmopressin and hey presto immediate dry bed."

I'm "dutifully" waiting until September 17th (day after DS1 turns 7) to trot off to the Dr.s........when I saw him a while back about something else (actually probably more like nearly 2yrs ago LOL) - he told me to "bring him back when he's 7 if he's still wet".......well he still is - they POINT BLANK refuse to see them until they're 7 at my Drs surgery.

See QoQ that makes me really mad. My poor boy was losing confidence fast, he was gutted every morning, made worse by DS2 being dry at age of 4 day and night. So I am for you. Our children really should't have to wait for this simple effective treatment grr

yep - he's refused to wear nappies/pullups/pjyama pants etc for over 1yr now - he's (his words) "determined to do a dry night"....of course it doesn't happen (well once in a blue moon) - I'm now used to the daily ritual of washing sheets/duvet cover and pillowcase.......but I'm sure he must be feeling even worse now that DS2 (not 4 until November) has been out of nappies for 2 weeks and only had 2 wet nights .

Still only a few weeks to go and then hopefully we'll be sorted

Your poor ds1's!

I think politely pestering the continence clinic could be the way to go.

Or lying to your dr about your son's age

My hot tip is to toss him in the shower in the mornings, then when you return to school in September he'll be in the habit of being nice and fresh IYSWIM. Less chance of teasing/name calling [bitter experience emoticon]

Oh he already has a wash in the mornings (ie all over body one) - so that he's nice and fresh for the day - thankfully he doesn't apear to upset by it (part of his routine now I guess ).......unlike DS2 who threw a complete hissy fit when he had to have a wash on his 2 nights with accidents!

I wish you the best of luck QoQ, fortunately, this problem is a lesser one in the list of things we need to sort out for DS, but I could write a book the size of the bible about how frustrating I have found the NHS with regards to his allergies. YOu have all my simpathy.

Nell12, I have already a pack of disposable boxers for him to wear (bought him for sleepovers), I will try them as soon as the nappies are gone. Although, considering his strange devotion to boxers I am anticipating an attachment to them.

I got a bit surprised at how mortified DS was at being put back on nappies. It must be awful to accept for an older child.

I have to say I do look forward (rather selfishly I suppose) when I don't have to do a load of washing every day in order to keep on top of it....

I have to say I do partly blame myself for him not wanting to wear nappies - it was my idea for him to try (last summer) not wearing any......i had to initiate the daytime potty training when he was younger as he had NO interest whatsoever......of course once he hadn't worn them for a week or so - that was it he wasn't go back into them come rain or shine.

He's never been an overly confident boy - and I'm sure this can't be helping.

YEs, I think we do all the circus of the big boy and whatever, circus that may help a child without problems but may become frustrating for one who has them.

Unfortunately, is impossible to know what child you have before the problems start, or better said, never stop.