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When MIL goes near the baby

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Choccheese · 29/07/2018 04:43

I hated it whenever MIL went near DC1 as a baby. She was always criticising and advising and always seemed way too over invested in her role as grandmother, expecting sleep overs far too soon etc. DC1 is now 5 and MILs relationship with her doesnt bother me at all. She still tries to advise etc but it all goes straight over my head.

I have recently however given birth to DC2 and those feelings are creeping in again, despite me feeling so much calmer this time and MIL being much more discreet than last time. I actually hate MIL being anywhere near her and I'm pretty sure she's being a pain again but at a lower level.

  • If she's holding the baby and I ask for her back to feed her, she'll stand rocking her an extra 30 seconds whilst shes screaming for me before handing her over.
-making remarks about 'what a shame' it is that I have to feed her myself and don't get a break (due to BF)
  • Yesterday she was pushing her in the pram and I said that she needed feeding as she was crying. "Again?!" She said whilst trying to shove a dummy in her mouth as if she knew best and as if indicating that she couldn't possibly be hungry.
-I will be changing her and smiling and cooing at her and MIL will basically stand above me cooing more loudly. -She indicates there is an issue with her poo and wee (I'm not sure if this is a dig at BF) as she says her wee is "stronger than you expect" and her poo is "always running out of the sides and a funny colour." All however is normal.

She has said how "great" she thinks I'm doing with the BF but I can't help but feel she's making some discreet digs.

She gives me the creeps whenever she's holding my baby, I just hate it and she's so over-powering. As soon as she holds her, I can't wait to have her back again.

Am I being too sensitive?

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bastardkitty · 31/07/2018 06:45

It's good that you know what you need to do now OP so you can be more assertive with the inappropriate behaviour.

ReggaetonLente · 31/07/2018 07:08

All my friends, who are PIls use the internet constantly and we read widely ( as I run a book club) and we discuss a range of serious topics. At the moment it is the very serious question of the NI border. Most people have no idea what lead to the partition of Ireland.
What we don’t do, is sit around discussing celebratory gossip, or watch pap such as ‘ love island’ glued to our iPhones whilst our grandchildren vainly try to attract our attention.

You have posted some bizarre things on this thread but honestly this takes the biscuit Biscuit

Bibesia · 31/07/2018 07:33

When I said the jury is out, regarding putting a baby on its back to sleep, I haven't suggested anyone should do otherwise. I meant that it hasn’t been proved conclusively that it is the main and ONLY factor involved in solving the conundrum of Sid

When has anyone ever suggested that babies sleeping on their fronts is the only factor in SIDS? Manifestly it isn't. However, when putting them onto their back results in an 81% drop in cot death, it really cannot sensibly be denied that it was the main factor until the practice was stopped. No jury is still out on that one.

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bastardkitty · 31/07/2018 08:01

I personally think this thread works much better when everyone ignores the gf.

heartsease68 · 31/07/2018 08:31

You are disingenuous, too. Your phrase about the jury is used to mean ' it isn't been proved that's the best course of action (ie, a preventative factor) yet '. Not, as you're now trying to make it mean "it hasn't been conclusively proven as the only preventative factor'. You also can't be 'a medical family '. We have many doctors and nurses in the family but their degrees have no bearing upon the rest of us. Likewise for you.

Enjoy your grandchildren. Try to stop laughing up your sleeve at your adult children and posting dangerous babycare advice.

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Believeitornot · 31/07/2018 08:49

My MIL used to do this a bit. She regretted not breastfeeding and was a bit practical with her babies. So when the new ones came along she kind of reverted and did a lot of projecting.

Dh had a word and that sorted it out.

Almostthere15 · 31/07/2018 08:59

@toyoungtodie I really don't think whether I'm a currently a mil has any bearing on it, after all using the same logic you're not currently a pregnant dil so then should you not be able to comment. Also, can your book club not comment on the Irish border unless they live there? It would be an odd world if we could only comment on an experience that we were currently in.

If you and your children (in laws or not) are happy then lovely. My point here was that no one should be denying the importance of safe sleeping advice, which you were doing.

I'm not aware of any science that suggests it's a good idea to withhold a hungry baby from it's mother and however much the crying may impact on the GPS I doubt it's as bad as it is for mum. But hey, maybe that's your next research focus. Get the book club on it when they've sorted brexit.

LeighaJ · 31/07/2018 14:40

@Choccheese

How often do you see your MIL?

Choccheese · 01/08/2018 05:52

A lot. We live on the same estate so around 1-2 times per week. My DH had a v close relationship with them before we married and relies on FIL a lot, they are also v helpful with childcare.

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Fatas · 01/08/2018 12:30

I don’t think that Mumsnetters realise that a screaming baby physically affects their MiLs and their Mothers. I had to leave the room in order not to say anything. Eventually my dear SIL had to leave for work and had to hand her over. I practically heard the baby sigh as I swaddled her and rocked her. In seconds she was asleep. I love my sons in law deeply but watching them with their newborns was comical.....but I shut up and backed off, but it hurt.
Swaddling was out at the time and so was rocking.
Rocking because you might spoil the baby ( duh) and swaddling because of supposedly affecting their limbs. As my boys grew up to be hulking Rugby players I feel sure they were affected by my swaddling them, not
I always lay the babies on their backs though because of the danger of cot death, although the jury ( I think ) is still out on that one.
I come from a medical family and fashion regarding child rearing changes, but some ideas have always been ridiculous

Gosh! You really highlight the issues with MIL and DIL/SIL relationships. You come across as a right know it all.

The thing is as a daughter, you are able to tell your mother that she is out of order without causing any issue, this is often not possible with a mother in law where the DIL will probably try to be polite etc.

Like PPs have said, MILs who brought kids, or even one child up differently say 30 years ago or more, thing their advice is needed or wanted when it often isn't. Come round and see the baby, offer advice if requested. But otherwise, unless the child is in danger don't tell people how to bring up their own child!

Advice/comments I have had are numerous and not requested. Sometimes those comments have been directed at the baby or at other guests so I was in earshot.

Eg. When asking MIL not to talk so loudly as sleep fighting baby was just going to sleep and she was waking him: 'He'll sleep when he is ready.

Placing a toy in his moses basket when he was sleeping, that she had got him when he was 3 weeks old.

Saying to her friend that 'and she won't let him have a dummy!' when I am right next to her

When baby not sleeping well at night, he is napping too long (said to baby, not me) - apparently he needs an hour in total when he is 6 months.

Commenting on the fact he has too many fruit purees- at the moment I am slipping in the odd spoon of veg when I can- otherwise I am faced with a clenched jaw.

Saying to baby that he needs a routine- he does have one and again said to baby whilst I am in earshot.

The list goes on...

Other behaviours that have cheesed me off is coming around too much when partner and I are getting used to parenting and sleep deprivation and getting involved in our disputes- taking beloved sons side obvs. I was changing all nappies and I mentioned this and she said "well he changed one last time I was round"

It just makes you cross, it may seem petty, but when you're dealing with sleep deprivation etc, its the last thing you need.

Bowlofbabelfish · 01/08/2018 12:45

Babies still die despite all the improvements being applied.

They do and always will because some cases of SIDS are down to things like silent heart defects or central respiratory failure.

However the introduction of guidelines like back to sleep has reduced the rate of SIDS by over 80% - it’s been a HUGE success. Anyone advising a mum to put their baby to sleep any other way (without sound medical reason) is endangering the child. And can expect at the very least an eye rolling.

Ditto ‘oh they’re fine without the car seat, we are only going down the road’ (check the child RTA death rates now and in the 70s) or ‘we never had x in my day and survived’

Unsolicited advice is a pain, even if someone is trying to help. If it’s well meaning then you can certainly have a word and try to sort it out - that’s the kind of behaviour that the person may just mean well and be getting it wrong

Not handing the baby back when it’s crying and you’re asking is a different matter. That hits some deep nerve for many mums and it’s not something anyone should be doing and it’s not well meaning.

Mummyofone18 · 06/08/2018 19:31

I literally could have written your post myself! When I was pregnant she once said to me I breastfed all my 3 boys so if you ever need breastfeeding counselling you know where I am. No offence but if I ever need advice with my baby I will either ask the professionals or my mum. Luckily baby latched on straight away and 6 months on we are still continuing BF. MIL sounds just like yours, at first it made me feel very uncomfortable and anxious and I hated being around her. Now if she makes comments I just simply ignore or emphasis what I had said in the first place for example we were texting the other day and I said he’s just chilling in the garden, she then responded in the shade I hope, I ignored that as I found it quite a petty comment, then she later sent another saying does he have a sun hat on, to which I said plenty of sun hats here. Just comments like that all the time but it just goes over my head now. When we are with her and baby cries straight away she thinks she knows why he’s crying and tries to tell me so I just reach out take him off her talking to the baby rather than her saying come to mummy for milk darling or something like that just to avoid the situation. Also what I found is she wouldn’t leave him alone to begin with so I started dropping him round there every other Friday and the novelty soon wore off, we just pop in there now as and when and she doesn’t come to ours very often at all to see him as she is ‘busy’! My only advice although it’s hard is just let it go over your head and emphasise what it is the baby wants by talking to the baby rather than her to avoid the awkward conversation x

boobymilkmachine · 06/08/2018 19:56

My MIL could be a little like this - a lot of 'we did it like this in my day', 'why don't you give him some crushed up rusks in his formula', 'you can't possibly go back to work full time' etc - and also had a dreadful attitude to safety. She used to take my DS out for walks in his buggy, but didn't strap him in, which I discovered when he fell out onto a narrow pavement on a busy road! She really didn't understand that it was a problem & just kept apologising for getting his foot muff muddy which I couldn't have cared less about compared to the risk of him being run over by a car! I never tackled her on the subtle stuff but did make a big point about safety ie the buggy incident. She died a few weeks ago, and I'm so glad I let the small things slide; she would have been mortified if I'd tackled her on it, and her heart was really in the right place. We now miss her hugely, and my boys miss her so much. I guess I'm saying that you should think carefully before tackling her on things that are annoying but that actually don't do any harm, because you could inadvertently push her away and end up missing out on all of her love & time as a family. I now really wish I had what you have now.

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