Is baby teething? Or sleep regression?

[Smellybears]

Hello all!
FTM and need some advice please The past few night my 15 week old has been very restless at bedtime and taken nearly 2 hours to get to sleep. Lots of screaming and fighting sleep. His eyes will be rolling and then he will start going to sleep then it’s as if he remembers that he’s meant to be fighting it and wakes back up crying. Lots of rubbing eyes.
He’s generally awake at about 5pm after his last nap, then it’s bath time, bedtime massage (only for a few minutes) and a bottle in darkened room with the white noise maker on. This used to work but now I’m unsure if he’s going through 4 month sleep regression or teething?
During the day he only naps for half an hour at a time, he will have three or four naps. He’s putting his hands in his mouth a lot but has been for a few weeks. Wasn’t sure if he’s discovering his handies or if he’s teething? During the day he doesn’t cry at all, only when I’m rocking him to sleep for his nap. Sometimes I can put him straight down and he will have a little grizzle then sleep.
Can anyone offer any advice please on what I’m doing wrong/right, if it could be teething or if it’s sleep regression?
Thank you!

Just got him some anbesol liquid. He’s not allowed Ashton and parsons due to his milk allergy. It’s gone in the drawer ready for when needed!

hope it works out for you, things do get easier I promise!

Anbesol was a lifesaver !

Thank you so much! I’m still not sure if he’s teething!

Anbesol didn’t work for ds but it was prob a developmental leap at the time.

He’s been a little bugger with naps today, screaming whilst I’ve been rocking him. Final nap of the day he just wouldn’t go to sleep so we are in for an eventful evening tonight I think! 😩

You will be spot on for the middle of leap 4 going by your dates- was he born early or late. Seriously, get the ww app- it explains an awful lot.

In regards to teething I thought my baby was about three weeks ago - I hear it can be on and off for several months before teeth come through.

However, I think babies like sticking stuff in mouth, chewing things and they drool anyhow. My baby bruised his lip he was sucking on it and biting so much- seems to have gone away now.

He will still bite on my finger and it does feel hard. I think it probably just comes and goes. At the moment though its not causing issues.

I'm going to save the anbesol until he is full on teething.

My baby also fights sleep and will sleep when I put him down at night and wakes up once or twice in the night. However, he has last feed at 10 and asleep at 10.30

From mumsnet and friends I hear not to worry about naps and schedules until 6 months. I can get one consistent nap at about midday, but thats only a recent occurence. Ive decided to loosen up a bit, rather than getting stressed over naps. My baby similar age btw

Does this sound like your baby?
During this leap:
babys head has to be supported again more often
he asks for and almost claims attention
has firm mood swings
wants more bodty contact during feedings
lacks usual spunk or seems absent

Also babies are generally more fussy, cry more and have trouble with sleep during leaps

He hasn’t had his afternoon nap today but went to sleep so much easier tonight! No crying like normal. Might just be a one off. I’m not sure whether to do the same again tomorrow?
Ruby root no doesn’t sound like him. The only thing I’d agree with is the trouble with sleep.
He was born on his due date!
Ruby does your little one only have one nap per day then? Maybe I do need to lighten up and stop panicking so much about naps!!

2 naps today, but sometimes 1- about 50 mins each today.

Perhaps your last nap and bed time too close together

Bedtime here not till 10/10.30

Best night sleep he’s probably ever had! fell asleep at 8pm fairly easily. Awake for a bottle at 2.30am and now up for the day at 7.30am. Maybe he’s ready to drop that final afternoon nap?

Maybe- or maybe it was just a coincidence. Something i have learnt is that baby's sleep is often inconsistent. My baby did 7 1/2 hours straight last night- new record!

Night before slept 3 hours then 2 hours then 2 hours.

I wouldn't decide anything until its happened more consistently

Tried dropping the afternoon nap, well, screaming baby at bedtime! Difficult to know what to do so that he’s not stressing himself out screaming

I think you should just let baby lead you regarding his sleep. He will sleep when he needs to. I found the easiest way with ds was to go with the flow rather than fighting against it and it made things a lot easier

Thanks starmix!

It's something we are both learning smellybears- I tried to force a nap today to no avail. Fell asleep in swing chair when I was cooking when I turned the radio up to drown out his crying. Cried for ten seconds and then out like a light.

Think we both need to go with the flow a bit and screw those schedules

How’s everyone getting on? My little one has slept through till half five the last three nights, I keep telling him I’m so proud of him hopefully he can keep it up. He’s been going to sleep at night at about 8pm with not too much fuss. He has a little cry and whinge for about five minutes but rocking him to sleep he’s soon off. I know I’m probably instilling bad habits by rocking him to sleep but it’s working for now and I’ll tackle it later on when I need to. For now I’m just glad that he’s sleeping better. His naps are still only for half an hour but I’m ok with this and he is too

Since the 7 1/2 hour record? Awful!

Been doing 4 hours max first stretch mostly- used to do 5.

New low last night and woke after two hours and very difficult to go back to sleep.

Getting increasingly difficult to get back to sleep after wake up (this is the worst bit, the wake ups not an issue on their own.

So much so, I have had to resort to letting him in our bed after wake up one and so worried I am making a rod for my own back as really dont want a on year old in my bed. :(

Fighting sleeo like crazy- jumparoo is only thing that sends him to sleep. Though he always falls asleep after boob at bed time.

Today he slept for a three hour nap- a very rare occurrence. He seems to fight sleep so much that every now and then he takes a long nap or a ling night sleep just to catch up and then goes back to non sleeping.

Oh no way!! Can you try get some sleep whilst little one is napping? I know easier said than done.
My little one woke at 4am this morning, i know I’m lucky and should make the most of it.
Don’t beat yourself up about sleeping with you, I’m rocking mine to sleep and will deal with it when I need to. I decided to take your advice with ‘go with the flow’!

I would have done, but was on a KIT day- typical. Who knows when his next 3 hour nap will be!

Last night he went back to sleep in his cot, even after a nappy change at 3.30 am!

So some progress- he can do it!

Ha- its deffo easy when you decide to go with the flow- stops the stress from trying to fight it all!

And I can't fight my little sleep fighter!

I went with the flow and now I have a toddler that won’t sleep through in his own bed. Sorry op it never ends and I’ve been told can last until 2 years old sometimes 3

Who knows what would have happened if you tried to instigate routine?

My baby refuses to go with routine. Believe me I have tried and fought for hours and hours and hours to get him to nap. You think its worth all the stress to force a baby into a routine that just aint gonna happen at this stage?

My little one wouldn’t go for routine either when it came to sleeping and i’m against cry it out so it is what it is. I went with the flow, it’s easier and I recommend it. The result might not be what you want but at least your baby is comforted.