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Right, just realised that DS1 starts pre school in Oct. They prefer them to be potty trained.......

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IntergalEGGticWalrus · 02/04/2007 15:01

....But I'd rather wait until I know he's completely ready (which could be now, I've no idea)

I have one abortive attempt at PT a couple of months ago, but I got fed up of cleaning wee off them floor every 5 seconds, and eventually, DS asked for his nappy back on.

Thing is, I haven't a bloddy proverbial about what the signs are, and howbest to train him!

He's 2.4 btw

(I know I have until Oct, but I'm a worrier, you see)

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raspberryberet · 02/04/2007 18:09

So much can change in six months so I wouldn't worry too much about it now. I'd give him at least a few more weeks before you try again.

Does he seem to know when he's had a wee, or when he needs one? That would be a good sign to start with.

TheArmadillo · 02/04/2007 18:11

same here.

ds is 2.6.

I've decided not to worry about it till august.

Damn these people and their rules!!!

mrsjohnsim · 02/04/2007 18:24

ds1 started preschool able to pee in the loo but pooing his pants totally.#It took about 3 months for him to sort that out too.

Preschooll were okish about it, I had stopeed worrying- i knew he'd be fine... and if the asked him to stay home until it sorted, then it wasn't the end of the world...
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misdee · 02/04/2007 18:25

dd3 could technically be starting pre-school in 2 weeks time, she is nowhere near potty training.

am putting her name on the waiting list soon, if she is PT by sept she can start then if not i am delaying it till jan.

JodieG1 · 02/04/2007 18:27

I don't think they can refuse to take children that aren't potty trained anymore, not if they're registered with ofsted anyway. My ds isn't potty trained and he goes to one.

auntymandy · 02/04/2007 18:27

My DS is starting after easter and is no way potty trained. Cant turn them away.

ChasingRabbits · 02/04/2007 18:47

Our pre-school isn't registered to take kids in nappies as they don't have the change facilities.

MadamePlatypus · 02/04/2007 18:51

Don't worry. That is more than 6 months away. You will have a completely different child by then.

Themis · 02/04/2007 18:54

I think that unless there is a strong health & safety issue about changing i.e no facilties etc they can't refuse to take a child that is still in nappies, all comes under 'inclusion & discrimination'.

The only way they can have discrimination and not inlcude some children is down to health & safety.

It might be worth while speaking further to the school and see whether they 'prefer' or 'insist ' on DS being potty trained and ask why.

Gobbledigook · 02/04/2007 19:05

Ds3 starts school nursery in September and he is 2.7 now. I'm going to do it at the start of the August holiday when he is almost 3. Ds1 and ds2 cracked it in about 3 days at the same age so I am expecting the same!!

Neither ds1 or ds2 showed any signs, I just decided that 2.9-3 was a good time and it turned out it was

twoisenoughmum · 02/04/2007 19:18

EGW - do it in the summer. Take his nappy off during a warm spell and spend a few days at home with him naked from the waist down. He will be able to feel better when he wants to go and know when he's gone accidentally without a nappy OR pants OR shorts on.

I did this was DS last year. He was 2.10 in the middle of July. He was very reliable within a couple of days (so long as I remembered to take the potty with me everywhere for a month or two). I could leave him at nursery with complete confidence by January when he was 3.3 (having said that, he wet himself first day LOL! but never since).

I potty trained his older sister at 2 years 10 months too.

It was a breeze with both of them [smug emoticon].

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IntergalEGGticWalrus · 02/04/2007 20:24

Thanks everyone.

They don;t have changing facilities there (I don;t think anyway)

So, how do I know when he's eready? [clueless]

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colditz · 02/04/2007 20:28

Er "Prefer to be potty trained"! isn't quite the same as """For H&S reasons we are exempt from the disability act"", is it?!

The only 'facilities' they need is a mat on the floor. that's what ds1's preschool use, along with gloves, aprons, alcohol gel, etc.

If they are saying they can provide care to this age group, they are under a duty to provide care. Not just the nice smelling bits of care.

LilyLoo · 02/04/2007 20:29

Your not cleaning wee off the floor every five seconds. Does he say i need wee or poo ? Is he aware that he is doing one in his nappy ? Does he ask to be changed? Will he voluntarily use the potty. I tired ds too early and we had nightmare cleaning up after him all the time. However just done it with dd2.3 and she cracked it in couple of days hardly any accidents at all. Give him try and see how he goes on. imo if you are costantly cleaning up after him it's too soon. Good Luck

ChasingRabbits · 02/04/2007 20:32

colditz - I was under the impression they needed somewhere away from the main room the children were in to put the change mat - is this wrong?

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colditz · 02/04/2007 20:39

Presumably if all the kids are supposedly toilet trained, they have toilets? that's where ds1's preschool have the change mat.

ChasingRabbits · 02/04/2007 20:41

lol - yeah but not really enough space in there for a mat - unless the adult sits on the loo while they change the nappy, not much space in the sinks bit either. I guess that's where ours gets the H&S get out then.

MerlinsBeard · 02/04/2007 20:50

we tried to train DS1 b4 he was ready, stopped and tried again a little while later, making sure he had the language to tell us and that he was able to pull his own trousers up and down ish.

If wwe had waited for him to tell us we would still be waiting lol

Clayhead · 02/04/2007 20:56

I work at a pre-school. IME it is very difficult to use H&S as an excuse.

We use the toilet floor & mat as suggested.

We have had children in nappies due to their special needs; if a pre-school says it cannot change nappies it is effectively saying children with certain SN can't attend!

Loochyloo · 02/04/2007 21:06

so glad I've seen this thread as am in exactly the same position. DS (2.8) doesn't seem at all interested in getting rid of nappy and runs away screaming when I try and take his wee soaked one off (charming yes I know.) V heart warming to hear the "cracked it in no time when they ready" stories

mish2 · 02/04/2007 21:11

my daughters pre school wont take unless toilet trained i was told when they came out for pre school visit - likewise i was told if at pre school or nursery or whatever you want to call it if she poos themselves they are to just sit in it till a parent comes and collects them as they are not allowed to 'touch' the child in anyway. Not a nice thought.

BigCremeEggs · 02/04/2007 21:29

my DD will be starting preschool in October too and will be exactly 3. 2 weeks ago I bought 2 books for DD about a short story of a princess eventually loved her potty and another was about a bear (she loves me reading them to her). She had been telling me for the past 2 months that she had wee-ed and poo-ed her nappy. She asked for her potty and also the
toilet too (but only when its her bedtime she try and avoid to go to bed by going on the potty!!). For the past 2 weeks She had wee-ed twice in her potty and once on the toilet but there are times when i asked her and she either say Yes or No.

She started to use her potty last year in October and i thought she was ready..she uses the potty for 3 days and then that was it for months!!!!

This summer if she is not sucessfully trained then ill be taking her nappy off whilst she play in the back garden.

vixma · 02/04/2007 21:59

It maybe worth doing regular toilet trips every two hours and maybe sitting them on the loo or infront of the loo so they can get used to it ( as moving from nappy to toilet can be very weired and scary for a child). If they use the loo then celebate this with lots of praise aswell as if they try and do not go. Potty and toilet training can be a hard time for parents from my own experience. Don't worry about it as I am sure all will fall in place and I am sure the school/nursery have worked with children not ready for the loo loads of times. When I worked in nursery we had children who was moving from nappies and it isn't a problem. You will both be fine...good luck!

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