My 4 month old daughter... Expecting too much too soon already?

[Staciiemummyof2]

hello

I'm new on here but need some advice/opinions/thoughts

My little girl is nearly 4 months old, wakes once in the night around half 2ish for a feed (it seems to be around this time most nights)
But the last previous nights apart from last night, she has her feed then wide awake and wants to chat and play for 2 hours around about roughly!
This is obviously frustrating for me as I have also a 18 month old little boy who sleeps from 7/7:30ish every night till half 6/7ish so when my little girl finally settled herself (which she is pretty good in doing) my son is going get up in the next hour or so and I'm still awake as I feel I can't sleep knowing she is awake. (She sleeps in her own room and cot... has done from about 3 months roughly now I think!)

Her routine roughly looks like this:

Wakes : Between 7:00-7:30
Dometimes she Doesn't want to feed straight away or she will but only have a couple of oz's out of 5oz's that's she has per feed.
Plays for abit after that then..
Feeds: Between 8:15/8:30 (rest of the 3oz's or 5oz's depends)
Naps: 9.00
Wakes: Between 11:15/11:30
Feeds: 11:30 (5oz's)
Awake for abit till about 1ish then has a nap.
Nap: 1ish
Awake and feeds:Between 3:00-3:30 (5oz's)
Has another little play whether it's on her play mat, bouncer etc.
Nap: Between 5-5:30
Wakes and feeds: Between 7-7:30ish (5oz's)
(This her last feed before she will go to bed about 8ish and sleep 6 hours)
Wakes: 2:30ish for the night feed 5oz's)

Then starts all over again... This just a rough idea on how she is at the moment.
Tried dream feeding her between 10/11 but doesn't make no difference as she she still will wake @ half 2ish for that feed whether she has has had 6oz's then or not.

My 18month old when he was @ my daughters age was sleeping through already by now but he was drinking more (Think it's a boy thing as they say boys are more hungrier then girls)
Also I know all babies are all different individuals.

So my questions are these?
1:Is she going to bed too early for her age?
2: Is she having too much sleep in the day or maybe not enough?
3: She naps on the sofa in the day but in her bed at night so shall I try her in her bed every time she naps? That way she will no this is where she sleeps?!

Anything else you may think may help etc please let me know as really appreciate it.

Thanks
:)

Thanks @Emma2803 can only give it ago.

Sitting here thinking about it when she was newborn she used to actually got down then rather then earlier, like I'm trying to get her to do now and she went till about half 4ish!

Yes turn a light on or something to wake them a little, change nappy whatever. Dream feeding they do whilst asleep and it doesn't break the pattern.

Well last night was interesting... in a good way! 👍🏻👍🏻

Feed @ 7:15-7:30ish
Bed by 8 and asleep by half 8 in the end as she was comfy but then finally went off herself!
I woke her @ 10 like properly so she was wide awake (which she was @ first) so fed (5oz's) and changed her, then half way through the feed she was getting sleepy again but managed to get her to feed.
Put her back down by half 10 and she then woke @ 3!! (Still fed 5oz's even though I did try and pull back so was only 3/4 but she was looking for the rest!)
Then she woke @ 7 but won't feed just yet!

So I'm looking at this as progress what do you think?

Sorry, I've read most of the responses but not all of them so I might be repeating

From your first post, she wakes from her final nap at 7/7.30 then feeds and down for bed at 8. What I think is actually happening is that she is counting nighttime as her final 5pm nap, waking up for a quick feed at 7.30 then up for the day at 2.30 (with her first nap at 4.30). You need to completely change things around - the longest wake period should be the one immediately before bed, so she needs to wake by 5.30/6pm latest for an 8pm bedtime

I hope that helps x

@DoublyTroubly
Thank you for your advice and help!

Well I have tried not letting her sleep any more then half an hour if she wants to sleep late afternoon... so then this doesn't happen. Or just tired not letting her nap but that's easier said then done lol

I don't understand how this is progress, apologies if I'm just not getting it. You're now having to do two feeds /wakes and baby is still not taking 7am bottle?!
She needs more during the day and less at night if what you're trying to achieve is less night wakes? the 2/3 am is a comfort /habitual wake. In order to stop that the only way is to not give her what she wants BUT it's totally normal for a baby of her age to wake during the night before 6 months or older! You were spoilt with your son I think that's why you're so frustrated. In order to break the habit you need comfort/settle in other ways e.g. Sssshh pat method/water/dummy so that she can take more during the day. It's really tough to break it and you need to be really up for it. If not stick with what you've got and it'll improve over time.

as your title suggests yes I think you are expecting too much.