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Daughters father partner. Help and advise please

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Natalie2900 · 28/04/2017 20:40

Hey,

I am wondering if anybody can help me. I just need some advise and somebody to tell me I'm either being dramatic or perfectly reasonable.

I am struggling with my daughters dads partner. I find her incredibly over power and just wish she would take a step back.

Basically she has decided to meet up on weekends with one of the mums from school who is supposed to be my friend of 4 years ( our daughters went to nursery together and now school) I am incredibly hurt by them all meeting up and spending time together.
Now I have been told of another friendship she has made with another mum at school. Am I being childish? I am always in quite a rush during school run with
Work and don't have time to stop and chat. I just feel like being friends with all the nuns isn't her place! She isn't her mum!!!!
She always is doing all the school runs and her dad lies and says it's him!
This woman has never known where the line is and I feel like she is running my time bringing up my daughter! This is me special time with her that I will never get back and she's growing up every day :-(. Why as her mum can she not just respect my wishes.
She wrote me a thank you card from me daughter for the Christmas presents I brought her! Like I'm a relative!! She is MY DAUGHTER why would she write me a thank you card. She just doesn't think.

Can I refuse her to be collecting my daughter from school and request it is only her dad? I am just sick of neither of them respecting me wishes as her mum! I sit crying because they make me feel like they are trying to be mum and dad and I feel so unimportant sometimes. Why would a woman want to make another woman feel that way? I wish she could see it if the tables were turned. Please help it's bringing me down :-(

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EveryoneTalkAboutPopMusic · 29/04/2017 17:11

So sorry you feel this way. Have you met with your friend or spoken to her? What does she say about the new friendship?

Wonderpants · 29/04/2017 17:17

Does your DD live with them? It isn't clear from your post!

Chillyegg · 29/04/2017 17:20

No advice. That sounds increadibly hard though op you can refuse to give permission for her to collect and drop your dd off at school .
Although im not sure what else you can do as you dont deem her a safeguarding risk. She sounds like a massive twat though. Are you the resident parent?

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soapboxqueen · 29/04/2017 17:20

If she's often doing the school run then I would assume she's just got chatting with other people when she's in the school yard. I'm friends with some grandparents who do the school run and wouldn't know the actual parents from Adam.

You can't dictate who takes her to school. Your ex can decide to take her to school himself or deligate that to somebody else. Unless you think his partner is a danger.

I suspect the thank you note was an attempt at being thoughtful, though I agree a bit weird.

It's ok to feel pushed out etc but I'm not sure there is much you can do about it.

OfficerVanHalen · 29/04/2017 17:27

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Hecticlifeanddrowning8 · 29/04/2017 18:24

I'm all for step parents trying to make a child feel at home but this woman seems to be pushing the boundarys. I don't think you can stop her doing school runs (although why they are lying to you saying dad is doing them is iffy) If I were you I would make a point of things like assembly's, Christmas plays, parents evenings etc being strictly a mum and dad thing.
I was quite happy for my DDs step mother to help out But there were always clear boundarys that she was fine with , like she would never have taken DD to get her hair cut or ears pierced , as that is not her place.

Aquamarine1029 · 30/04/2017 02:23

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time. However, I think you might want to look at this from a different perspective. First of all, you can not control who she makes friends with, not do you have the right to try and dictate that. Secondly, your child knows who their mum is, and no one will ever be able to take your place. Third, it may be that your ex's partner is just trying too hard to care for your child, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I would be happy that she seems to really be invested in my child's well-being. As far as the thank you note, yes, it was weird, but was it really that big a deal? Maybe she thought it would be nice to teach your child proper manners in knowing to thank people for gifts. Yes, it was awkward, but your child learning to thank even her mum is not a bad thing. You are NOT unimportant. You are the single most important person in your child's life. Try to give this woman a break. It's not easy being a mom, but it's not easy being a step-parent, either.

LunaMay · 30/04/2017 02:44

Sorry I think you're being a bit precious and petty. Why can't her father decide who picks his daughter up in his time? Why can't the other mums make a new friend?
Why do you want to disrupt everything and start drama by banning her from things because you're feeling insecure, surely the more people who care for your daughter the better?

WannaBe · 30/04/2017 10:58

You're being petty in the extreme.

Presumably if the partner is there when your DD finishes school on the days she goes to her dad's then it makes sense for her to collect your DD. Or would you be happy to change your work hours to collect your DD from school to drop her at her dad's just so her partner can't do it?

Your friends don't owe you anything in terms of loyalty, if she is a decent woman, and presumably she is if she is happy to have this kind of interaction with your DD, then it stands to reason that she will also interact with other school mums and may make friends with them.

This level of possessiveness over children is pathetic. all this "oh I am so hurt because someone else has dared to have a relationship with my children," grow up.

GreenGoblin0 · 30/04/2017 16:47

as harsh as it sounds ...the isn't about you. nothing you have said suggests any concern for your child.

you can't control who your friends associate with. she is probably trying to make friends with other parents to make it easier for your daughter to have friends over whilst she is at her dad's which is a positive thing

the thank you card sounds thoughtful to me - children should thank their parents for Christmas presents they give them

NeverTwerkNaked · 30/04/2017 16:55

I think you are over reacting, your daughter has an extra adult in her life who is interested in her. That's a good thing. It doesn't take anything away from her relationship with you, it's an added bonus.
Sounds like your ex should step up a bit more though and do some of the school runs!

Natalie2900 · 01/05/2017 09:18

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Natalie2900 · 02/05/2017 08:57

"Wannabe"

You comment was absolutely vile.
I came here for support not to be spoken to like
That.
Everybody's emotions are different and your approach was awful. Calling me pathetic and to grow up is hurtful. Maybe you don't have the same Situation as me and you will not understand it if you haven't. If you haven't got anything nice to say don't say anything.
Your comment could of been put in a much better way instead of coming off as a really horrible person.
Also my friend does own me loyalty as I owe my
Friends. Isn't that part of a friendship!??
And in response to over comments she attends everything. Parent evenings/plays/ assemblies. She drops our daughter off everytime she's with her dad. He never tells me who has dropped her off. I found out from other people at the school.

Maybe I am being "petty" but unless you have lived the situation it's hard to understand. I love that his partner is accepting of our daughter and I'm forever grateful but she constantly goes one step to far and I am uncomfortable with certain situations. If her dad expressed things he didn't like I would try to change these for him. Because it's his daughter and to ruin her upbringing for him is not acceptable.

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Hecticlifeanddrowning8 · 02/05/2017 18:47

Could you speak with her and ask her to back off a bit? Because whatever arrangement you and her father have surely promotes maximum time with mum and dad not stepmother !

Underthemoonlight · 02/05/2017 18:56

I get you op I think it's very hard when you plan a family with someone, you don't factor that relationship could break down and a complete stranger is involved in your child's life and especially if you've had no choice in the matter. We are only human with feelings and emotions and you aren't wrong to feel the way you do, I've had moments where I felt DS SM has crosssed the line mainly parents evenings, taking over DS losing his first tooth etc I never chose ex to leave me for someone else and I didn't choose her to be in my sons life but unfortunately I have no say and it is very hard sometimes especially when your there constantly doing the hard work and they get the fun bits.

Underthemoonlight · 02/05/2017 18:57

Sometimes you just need a rant to get it off your chest.Flowers

Mustardnowletsnotbesilly · 02/05/2017 19:07

I don't mean this in a harsh way but really it shouldn't be about you so much as about your daughter being happy. If she is then thats great. You will always be her mum.
Do you think that maybe you need something else going on in your life that is just for you? An activity or going out a bit more so that you can get your focus off this and make some new non-child related friends?

pigeondujour · 02/05/2017 19:57

I think stepmothers get a really hard time on here usually but the thank you card thing is not appropriate at all and makes me think she probably is being catty.

phoenixtherabbit · 02/05/2017 20:06

I think she's just trying to care for your daughter? You do make friends at the school gates I doubt she's doing it to spite you.

I think you're just thinking of yourself and not your daughter. You're focusing on what you don't like about this woman. You haven't mentioned how your daughter feels?

You'd be silly to stop her doing pick ups and drop offs - I really don't see the issue.

The poster saying this woman is a twat is out of order completely.

This post just proves 'step mums' or girlfriends of dad's or whatever you want to call them cannot do right for doing wrong.

This poor woman is probably trying her best for your daughter and you're ripping her to shreds on the Internet because you're jealous.

WannaBe · 03/05/2017 16:40

OP, I didn't call you pathetic, I said that the level of possessiveness by some parents over their children is pathetic, and I stand by that.

It is entirely understandable that in a moment of madness, a parent would feel sad at the realisation that another woman (or man) might have a parenting role in the lives of their children. But if you think about it for a minute, what is the alternative? Hoping for a step parent who is the devil incarnate and who the children can't stand? Hoping for someone who is horrible to the children or who refuses to have anything to do with them? Is that in the best interests of the children? Or of the resentful parent?

If you look at the step parenting boards, they are full of posters who resent the existance of their stepchildren, or who have little or no relationship with them because the stepchildren resent them, or step children whose other parent (usually the mother although that's indicative of MN rather than society as a whole) has turned them against the step parent. . There are no winners in those situations, only unhappy children.

Overstepping the mark would be the woman insisting your child call her mummy, or putting down her mum in front of her etc. Doing the school run is not overstepping boundaries, it's presumably doing that which her father either can't do because of work commitments or can't be arsed to do. Only you know which. The alternative to that would be her saying "I'm not picking up your child," which wouldn't exactly make the woman a prize catch would it?

And while it's hard to watch your friends become friends with someone who also plays a parenting role in your child's life, it's far more preferable than having a situation where everyone hates and resents everyone else and an atmosphere is caused.

Re the thank you card, I'd imagine that it's just a question of good manners. If she doesn't yet have children of her own then she may think that thank you cards for everything and everyone is the done thing. Why people need to assume that it's a deliberate dig is beyond me. But reality is that life would be so much easier if people didn't try to read motive into everything that someone else does.

Bear in mind that if this woman stays with your ex then she will have a life-long role in your child's life. And while it's very easy to be upset at a relationship between children and step parents when they're little, the reality is that they don't stay children, and one day those children will have adult relationships with you all, and with other people, and the relationships we model to them as children are the relationships they wil want to form as adults. Also, if she has children with your ex then she will be the mother of your daughter's siblings. It serves no good purpose to have a situation where the children have no relationship with the step mother and consequently little relationship with their siblings.

It's likely that you will one day have a partner of your own (assuming you don't already,) and that you will want your DD to have a positive relationship with him and vice versa. And most importantly, that you will want him to want to be a part of her life, and sometimes be prepared to do things for her etc. It's natural to want that. Now imagine how difficult life would seem if her dad started demanding that your partner not be involved in any way... it just doesn't work like that.

FWIW, I have a child who hasn't taken to his dad's new partner at all. I won't go into his reasons here. They're his reasons, some are valid, some aren't, but they've all culminated to bring about a situation where he spends almost no time at his dad's now when previously we had 50/50, and that has been detrimental to the relationship with his dad, and to the relationship with his half brother - the child his dad has with said new partner.

I have spent countless hours persuading him to go to his dad's, talking to him about reasons, wanting to help him through it, and explaining to him that the decisions he makes as a child will have an impact on the relationships he has as an adult. I have stood in my kitchen while he's told his dad that he doesn't want to go on holiday with them because he doesn't want to spend time with his new family and listened to my ex tell him that his concerns weren't valid. FWIW my ex has seemingly come round of late and has said to me that DS does have the right not to like his partner, so I'm not sure what's happened there but something has definitely changed for him. I've gone out and bought Christmas presents for her and her DD on his behalf only for him to be told that he shouldn't mention that I bought the presents (he was at school, I was at the shops, was a no brainer really) because partner would be upset by that. And yet partner, who hasn't spoken to any of us for four years recently sent my DP a FB friend request. Confused.

DS is a teenager now and is old enough to make his own decisions, so I've stopped pushing it as long as he communicates with me, and as long as he's polite when there. But life would have been so much easier, especially for DS, if he'd felt at home in both houses, instead of having all this bad feeling in the mix.

And I know that my ex has found it difficult that my DS gets on with my DP. I know that whenever something has happened with his DP he has wanted to know whether DS is the same towards mine, which he isn't. But nobody has gained anything through bitterness and resentment, and DS has maintained his feelings despite what any of the adults think, so as I said upthread, there are no winners.

Isadora2007 · 03/05/2017 16:47

As a Mum with children to an ex husband I can walk in your shoes so to speak. I have an "over involved" step Mum to my children and at first it annoyed me.
But.
But then I saw she genuinely cares for and makes an effort with my child. She has a great bond with dd who is now a teenager and needs that "not Mum " adult to support and advise her.
I do think you're being petty, sorry. It sounds like you've not had time for your friends who have now gotten to know the stepmum and like her. Trust your friends have good taste and so this other woman is NICE. She is caring for your child and doing the day in day out crap jobs for your child because she cares.
Be thankful you have a woman like that in your child's life and stop letting your feelings of insecurity get the better of you. You're not coming across well at all.

Batghee · 03/05/2017 16:54

i think you are being a little unreasonable but i do feel sorry for you as it must be hard.
I dont think you need to be insecure about being your childs proper mother, you always will be her actual mother no matter what this other woman does.
I do think you should look at the positives in this which seem to be that the partner likes and cares for your child. Its natural to feel slightly hurt but your child happiness is the most important thing so its important that you all try and get on. Banning her from picking up your child would not help the situation and looks aggressive.

MsGameandWatch · 03/05/2017 17:03

I don't believe there's any parent that wouldn't be 😒 at a thank you card written from a step parent on behalf of their child.

Sorry you've had such unpleasant responses on here OP. To a certain extent you have to suck it up unfortunately, but it would be made quite clear that communications in the form of thank you cards from my own child would never be required.

troodiedoo · 03/05/2017 17:08

I can see why you're upset and she sounds a bit try hard, but not malicious. She may be compensating for your ex being a bit slack. Perhaps your focus would be better directed at him? And do you feel guilty that you don't spend enough "quality" time (hate that phrase but you know what I mean) with your daughter?

I'm not being antagonistic these are genuine things to consider.

RebelRogue · 03/05/2017 17:10

I get why you are upset,but you are also being unreasonable.
For whatever reason your ex can't or won't pick DD up from school. If he just can't be arsed you can discuss that with him. If he genuinely can't,well someone has to,and as it happens it's his current partner that does it. You also don't need a daily update as to whom will pick up your daughter.
For the friends thing,she talk to them,you don't. They just got chatting and liked eachother,and the stepmum is probably just trying to make sure your DD can enjoy playdates and friendships during dad time too. That is a NICE thing.
The card thing was really odd,unless you weren't there for her to thank you personally. Which would still be odd,but kinda makes sense.
No one is ruining your child upbringing for you. Try and remember that this is about your child,how she feels and what she needs,not you.

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