potty training early?? (the baby whisperer)

[readyandwaiting]

i lent my copy of the baby whisperer (apologies if not meant to mention books/authors on this web site!) to my sil but remember they was a chapter on starting to potty 'train' from 9 mo - i only skimmed it and ds has just hit 9 mo, am interested to know what it said (don't slate me for trying to train ds before he's ready i was just interested to know what it said) - anyone read it or tried it?

TIA

This it is called something like eliminatiomn communication. there are threads about it on here and loads if you google. I think it's all to do with training yourself (rather than baby) to recognise your baby's signs that he/she is going to wee/poo and acting on it.

Elimination Communication Links

Just a few links on Elimination Communication which is NOT adult training anymore than breastfeeding is adult training.

thanks babieseverywhere had a read of link

have you done EC?

i'm going back to work when ds is 11.5 mo but was hoping to start using the potty for poo's before that, he goes morning and evening, does it work if you do it part time and nappies for day? i use reusables and would be great to get him used to idea but think nursery/childminder might not be keen on doing it for one child in day

I was just about to start a thread just like this, my dd is 8 months but hasn't done a poo in her nappy for about 2 months now. She makes the motions to do a poo, we then take her nappy off sit her on the potty and she does one. It all started by accident as she was having a bit of naked time when my ds brought the potty in for him to use and I just sat her on it to see.

My question is do you think this is too early and will make her less likely to use the potty in future or is it all about getting her used to it now so she isn't frightened later on? Has anyone got any experience of this?

My ds trained in 2 days but had never sat on a potty before.

At every Bathtime from a few mths old when my dd went to poo i quickly put her on the loo and later on she started telling me by pointing etc at. At 14/15mth she was telling me when she wanted to wee asell. It was not every wee but some. I think it realy helped with the early pooing in the loo. By 17mths dd was totaly dry in the day. Have not tried the night time yet.

i've been watching my ds since i posted this and the 'problem' i have is that he poos whilst he's eating - pretty much after a few mouth fulls (didn't get the potty out quick enough this morning) i'll prob have to watch him a little more to work it out

carwillin - what cues do you get that dd will poo? also my mum swears that she did the same thing with me as your doing and says that as long as its a relaxed process and no drama if it goes wrong or theres not too long sitting on the potty waiting for something to happen then its fine for the future because its not an issue

ECing is a really old fashioned idea, which many of our grandparents would of used.. My own father was out of nappies by nine months old.

Millions of Indian and Chinese babies are ECed every day and grow up without issues and so I can't see our ECed children having toileting problems when they get older. But I should point out my daughter is just 6 months old, ask me again in 2/3 years time ;)

ReadyAnd Waiting,

Yes, I'm ECing my 6 month old daughter, we started at 10 weeks old.
Our Introduction to ECing
At five months old she started wearing training pants during the day, as we have so few wee misses and never a poo one.
Training Pants

HTH

I have read that ECing can be done part time (at the moment I am lucky enought to be a SAHM so we are doing it full time)

Yes, it is better for your child to be in cloth nappies as a backup, so they understand that doing a wee in your pants equals being wet.

I had only thought about concentrating on getting him to poo out of nappies to start - he hates a dirty nappy but is more comfortable with a wet one so i'd reasoned he was half way there with pooing... unfortunently this prob isn't a good week to start, he's had an upset stomach and we've had 3 dirty nappies already today

i'll dig around for some more info on he part time thing
x

ReadyandWaiting - My mum also said she done the same with me and I was trained at 12 months. With dd she just gives a look and then a grunt - I put her on the potty and 9 times out of 10 she will poo. Again I have the luxury of being a sahm. I am also using reusables and so she does know the feeling of being wet, although I haven't tried it with the wees yet.

can't find much - the links you gave me babieseverywhere were the best ones - how do i start??

ok sorry if i sound stupid but i need some direct advice...
i get the general idea but do i literally put him on first thing one morning and everytime i get the idea he needs to go? and how long do i put him on for? if he doesn't go straight away then do you take them straight off and try next time?

like i said sorry if sounds basic but just need a first step to take! got the potty today and ds has had a sit on it - not keen in bathroom but was comfortable in his bedroom

tia

Hi Readyandwaiting,

I followed the baby whisperer book, from when DD was 10 months, and it worked for us, but took a long time, so don't expect too much too soon.

However, it did work for poos straightaway (no more dirty nappies - hooray!), so if this is what you want to focus on, then I definitely recommend it.

If you follow her guidance strictly, then it involves putting baby on the potty when they wake up, 20 mins after a meal/drink (or whenever they usually go if you are already aware of this), before/after naps, before bath etc. You sit them for no more than a few minutes, and if they do something in the potty, then you go overboard with praise. After a while they may start to signal when they need to go, or keep dry/clean in between. Once they've been dry/clean for a week or 2, you can safely put them into pants, although this didn't happen to us so we just made the transition to pants at 16 months.

Our DD still wears nappies for naps/bed but is dry/clean when awake, and she's just 2. We had a few relapses, and we didn't follow the book closely all the time (we used nappies/pullups when we really didn't want to deal with accidents such as on long car journeys or at friends houses) which was probably confusing for DD. Our DD also attended nursery part-time and at around 12 months, we asked if they could put her on the potty, and they were happy to, although not as frequently as we did at home. Worth a go. Ideally you need consistency, but we got there in the end!

Best not to start if DS is not well or if there are any other big changes in the household. Good luck!

Hello, Dont know if it'll help as its just for PT not early PT but I bought a 12 page ebook from ebay when i went to PT my DD, its called 'Potty Training in a morning' the basics took a few days not just a morning, but it did work.
Also i have another help guide 'Potty Training 5 lessons' (inc bonus lesson) this has a link in it to buy her book if u wanted to. I didn't but its there anyway.

I can email them to you (any anyone else) if you like

MagicalMay - can you email me the book please.
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Thanks.

ReadyandWaiting - As I said it started by accident but I do now put her on the potty after every meal time, every time I change her nappy, and of course every time she shows signs.

Could you e-mail the book to me too please Magicalway
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Just the thought of no more nasty nappies, got to be worth a try

I doubt the book on potty training will help you learn to EC.

EC is more about an open communication between you and your child. Once you have this, you will be able to read her signs easier and hence as a side effect be able to catch all his/her eliminations.

Whereas traditional potty training relies on the child verbally telling the adult that he needs a wee, whilst holding on to a full bladder, much more one way.

The EC yahoo list has the following EC rules..From this link....
groups.yahoo.com/group/eliminationcommunication/message/54547

GOLDEN POTTY RULES

1. Potty when sudden fussiness strikes
2. Always potty before leaving anywhere
3. Always potty upon arrival anywhere
4. Potty on waking up from sleep
5. Potty after an accident
6. Potty upon getting out of the bath
7. Peenie-weenie = time to potty (boys)
8. Always act on sudden random potty thoughts

I would start with the after sleep and nursing wees as these are the easiest to catch.

Thank for all the advise - wish I'd kept hold of my copy of the baby whisperer for longer now!

I'm just waiting for this stomach upset to pass and then I'll give it a go

Thanks again

BabiesEverywhere - I understand what your saying - thats why i said its for PT not early PT. I used it to help with my early PT. My DD has only just started to say odd words. When she was a baby i was able to read her signs and also tried her at the more likely times. She has still never verbally told me she needs to go, She has been totaly dry for mths now. I used the books to add to the advise and ideas i already had. Ok i didnt start the wees as early as you guys but i started early with the poos, anyway i just thought it might help.

started this afternoon - two wees in potty! hurray! no poos (but no dirty nappies either )

now any suggestions for a comfortable potty for a small bum? i've got a mothercare potty chair which seems ok if he goes straight away but too uncomfortable to sit on for more than a minute and try

Readyandwaiting, the babybjorn potty is so comfortable my children didn't want to get off!!! Bit bigger than some though so not so good for shopping etc. So nice to see other people training early. It works and is lovely for everyone. Hate seeing 3 yearolds in nappies!!!

thanks amelia02, babieseverywhere has a picture of her dd on a babybjorn - should have know from that really!

interested in hearing everyone elses stories too - and any more hints and tips

got a babybjorn potty today but ds won't sit on it.... don't understand maybe his bum really is too small!

Baby bjorn make several potties. The Baby Bjorn Baby Splash Proof Potty and the Baby Bjorn Potty Chair will be too big. The only one which is suitable for babies is the 'Little Potty' model.

i.e. Here is a picture PICTURE

Here are the 'Little Potty' for sale on Ebay...CLICK HERE