Baby due first vaccines concerns ,did you vaccinate your baby?

[mrsjoker35]

My babies 8 weeks coming up for and shes due her vaccines next week,
I keep hearing people saying that their evil, and that it's all fake , causing new diseases and stuff,not coming from me by the wau! i just don't know what to think. Its probably just scaremongers, but to be honest i am quite scared because of all the social media and whatnot, and now this other new thing going around that are effecting the unborn, saw people saying that the women were given jabs which caused that to happen. I think i just need some reassurance and some sane people to help me out here lol
Did you vaccinate your baby?
Did they get any side effects? ( did/does calpol help?)
What is their health like now?

Im sorry,im a ftm and im so easily concerned and frightened,

"I think one of the disadvantages of having the CP vaccine is that in America they are seeing a lot of children getting shingles, which is very painful."
Shingles is caused by the chickenpox virus not the vaccine, so anybody who's had chickenpox is vulnerable to it as well. Although there is a vaccine for shingles as well.

With the exception of children who can't have vaccines due to allergies or have compromised immune systems I think parents who don't vaccinate are fucking idiots.

OP, my baby has just finished his initial course of vaccinations (we're done now until he's one, bar BCG as we're in an area where that's considered necessary). He had a very slight temperature after round 1 (which, according to the nurse, is almost inevitable following the new meningitis jab), and we just gave him Calpol. He was totally fine after rounds 2 and 3 (although I did give Calpol immediately before round 3 as advised by the nurse).

I'm so glad he was born in time for the meningitis jab, it's a horrible illness.

Vaccinated the first. Not the second two. I regret the first decision, not the second two.

Do your reading, ask your questions, realise you can delay if you need more time to decide, then make the decision that is right for you.

Why do you regret vaccinating your first child Devilish?

Devilish why?

Definitely vaccinated; anything on offer. I would be completely nuts not to.

Because he's brain damaged. Requires 24 hour 2:1 care. Given our family history vaccination may have contributed to his condition. That doesn't seem to be treated as hugely controversial to those who are involved in his care.

There's a whole host of reasons I don't like the vaccination programme in its current form but the younger two are not vaccinated due to family history. We may have made a different decision without that family history.

I was undecided. I read everything I could to make sure I was clued up and we have a private peadiatrian and I did take her advice on board too.

My husband is a bit cynical too and often brings out the line about the drug companies.

However, I felt I had to do something because I've known people lose babies at a very young age from serious illnesses.

My mil was concerned about certain vaccinations because of family history but other family members didn't let it stop them and were happy to carry on with the nhs protocol.

One thing that did convince me and I can't link to it at the moment is the article Roald Dahl wrote on the encephalitis society website about the Mmr. Very interesting reading.

On another note dd has just finished all hers and didn't react to any. Here some of them are given in smaller doses and all separately and I think it makes a difference.

We did delay the mmr a bit though. I do agree with that if you're having trouble deciding. And I think some babies in the UK have side effects because they're given larger doses and more than one injection in one go.

I think family history is a perfectly valid reason not to vaccinate, Devilish - your DCs are part of the group who need the protection of vaccination for children who can safely be vaccinated. We need a lot more research into why some people don't tolerate vaccines so that ideally we can screen those who should not be vaccinated.

Ah I see Devilish, perfectly understandable given your family history that you decided not to vaccinate your younger children.

I do think it needs to be easier to disucuss pros and cons (there are pros & cons) & public health should not trump individual health. Especially when there is no functioning system to support those potentially damaged by vaccination. Making it adversarial benefits no-one.

Personally I would like to see an individual approach to vaccination, rather than the one size fits all.

Maybe that will come in with a genetic approach to medicine.

"I think family history is a perfectly valid reason not to vaccinate, Devilish - your DCs are part of the group who need the protection of vaccination for children who can safely be vaccinated. We need a lot more research into why some people don't tolerate vaccines so that ideally we can screen those who should not be vaccinated."

I totally agree.

I've only read the first two page of the thread, but unless there is a genuine medical reason not to vaccinate IMO it's so important to vaccinate to protect vulnerable others like devilish's family.

It made me very annoyed to see queues of parents standing in line to get there kids vaccinated when there was an outbreak of measles recently. I'll bet there were a few who spouted anti-vaccine conspiracy rubbish until shit got real and their child was at risk.

We did the same as Topsy34 for pretty much the same reasons. Opted out of the rotavirus one because of the high risk of side effects with relatively limited benefits, and did the one year ones on a spread out schedule to minimise risks of side effects and maximise effectiveness. Men B wasn't available then, but if it had been we wouldn't have had it at the same time as the others because of the need for Calpol and that lowering effectiveness of the other jabs (confirmed in latest JCVI minutes).

I'm also pro-vaccine following informed choice, but would say that to be informed you shouldn't purely rely on official NHS advice, as HCPs are only trained in the schedule on offer and are unlikely to have read any source material outwith that, and the schedule is designed for logistical reasons as much as medical ones. That's not to say you should believe internet scare stories either, but use official sources like the product safety sheets for a full idea of side effects and HPA stats for actual disease prevalence rates etc.

Yes, I have seen stats for rotavirus showing protection rates the same as breastfeeding, so as an extended bfer I decided we could happily do without.

Have also spread out MMR, but paid privately for men b.

But for the general population, I can't see a good reason to skip the 8 week vaccinations. Especially not on the say so of those who think zika is some global conspiracy.

outputgap if you have the info on rotavirus and extended bf i would be interested as I hadn't found any info on that

Output that's interesting, I am considering opting out of the second dose of rotavirus vaccine as ds was poorly after the first one. I am planning to bf him till he's about 2, does that mean it isn't worth having the vaccine? I also have a toddler at nursery so he is probably at more risk of being exposed to the virus than some babies.

I'm afraid I read that just before getting dc2 vaccinated. He's now 2 and a half, so I can't find it with google, and I just can't remember the source. I've had another very very quick google, and am no expert, but what came up suggested similar protection rates for children under 6 months, but better protection from severe diarrhea for vaccinated children from 6 months to 2. But this was a very perfunctory google, just reading the extracts and not knowing anything about it.

Sorry!

No worries, thanks. It just confirms that my instinct to say no to it

My DD is up on her vaccines except for the ones she needs for school, which will be done here soon. I was afraid too so I did my own research without taking words of others as gold. What I did find was if too many were ministered at once, it might have bad effects depending on the child's genes. To be safe, I drew them out so she didn't have the possibility of "bad" effects. Sure it took more doctors visits but it got the job done. She's perfectly healthy, super smart, and only sees the doctor for her yearly check up. I'm not going to say that my way prevented anything, cuz in reality you can't know. But I'd like to think I took the best measures as a parent. Do what you feel is right. If you're scared then research non bias sources. That's the best way I think.

Absolutely, why would you not protect your children from deadly childhood illnesses. You only have to look at the mortality rates in third world countries, where children aren't vaccinated, to see we are doing the right thing. All three of my children have been vaccinated and have no health concerns. I'm thankful for the new Meningitis vaccine, my cousin died of meningitis five years ago, it's a terrible disease and kills quickly.