Baby due first vaccines concerns ,did you vaccinate your baby?

[mrsjoker35]

My babies 8 weeks coming up for and shes due her vaccines next week,
I keep hearing people saying that their evil, and that it's all fake , causing new diseases and stuff,not coming from me by the wau! i just don't know what to think. Its probably just scaremongers, but to be honest i am quite scared because of all the social media and whatnot, and now this other new thing going around that are effecting the unborn, saw people saying that the women were given jabs which caused that to happen. I think i just need some reassurance and some sane people to help me out here lol
Did you vaccinate your baby?
Did they get any side effects? ( did/does calpol help?)
What is their health like now?

Im sorry,im a ftm and im so easily concerned and frightened,

Sorry Jw but anyone who says the Zika virus is caused by vaccines is a bit of a scare-monge ring idiot.

I am going to preach again.
My dd died from meningitis so please consider getting the vaccination OP

It's not a particularly good argument (before I get flamed) but yes I know about measles, mumps and rubella. I've had all 3! But I'm not taking it lightly and I do understand the risks from vaccines are small. My point is that while parents have a choice it's a decision they have to make for themselves. All I'm saying is to call parents idiots for feeling uneasy or choosing not to vaccinate is over the top. I'm not an idiot for worrying about my child, thinking it through or reading everything I can. If I decide not to vaccinate it's not out of stupidly-misguidance maybe but not stupidity. You can also still get the single measles vaccine privately

Sugar you aren't preaching - I read your thread the other day and I'm absolutely heartbroken for you still. I can't imagine anything more awful. X

And for the person who likened it to neglect

I wouldn't call parents feeling uneasy about vaccinating stupid at all. It's completely fine (and actually good!) to look into the pros and cons.

The overwhelming evidence fro the scientific community is that vaccines are safe (for the vast vast majority of children) and the risks are minute compared with the devastating effects of catching the diseases. In my opinion ignoring that evidence is stupid.

Sugar

It is neglect JW. You're risking your child's and others lives. The general concenses is that that is negligent and can very easily be avoided...

Hippychickmama - I haven't read the whole thread as don't have time but yours was one of the first responses. I think it's just as crazy of you to declare so matter of factly that 'of course vaccines are safe and won't harm your child' as it would be to declare that vaccines have absolutely no place or purpose.

Do you not know that both the UK and USA have vaccine injury / damage courts and funds which pay out millions each year due to harm caused by vaccines?

It's for the OP to weigh up the risk/reward for herself but what you have stated is completely incorrect.

I think we all had this discussion last week
Now I know I am completely biased but which is worse, having to administer Calpol for a couple of days or watching your dh/dp carry a pink casket into church.
It is my greatest wish that a child never dies from a preventable illness. If posting on here saves at least one life it will be worth it.
You do not want to be in my shoes

Sugar oh my god i am so so sorry for your loss ! i hope you and your family are all keeping well and i send you all my greatest sympathies

I really don't know how i can think twice about vaccinations now... I have a brand new mindset on the matter after today
My oh my though this thread escalated

I vaccinated all 3 of my children. They didn't have any reactions and are all very healthy children. Measles etc can kill a child. I would always take the vaccine.

Well...the risks from measles, mumps or rubella (in children) are actually rare according to the nhs website. They all used to be very common (hence why I've had all 3). There's still risk but it's low and there's quite a few risks of side effects with the mmr (again rare). It's a choice. Whoever keeps calling it neglect is overreacting.

Teacher1984 people have died from reactions to antibiotics, if your child had meningitis would you refuse the antibiotics? I had measles as a child, despite being vaccinated, I was 3 and I still remember not being able to open my eyes because it was too painful. My parents thought I was going to die. My SIL was vaccinated as a child but after having chemotherapy and a stem cell transplant she has no immunity and has got to be vaccinated again. She's a teacher, one unvaccinated child that's carrying measles could kill her. As I said, I'm a hcp, I've never met a child that's been injured through vaccines, I have met child amputees that lost limbs to meningitis after not being vaccinated. I've also seen children die from the same. I know how to read research papers, it was part of my degree, I have done my research and there is no way in the world my children would not have been vaccinated.

You make valid points in your response and FWIW my DC are vaccinated. But that doesn't take away from the fact that your initial comment was completely incorrect. I don't know why you would state something so matter of factly which is simply not the truth.

Ok, between 1997 and 2005 approximately 4,000,000 children were vaccinated. There were, in that period, 35 cases of vaccine related injury (which includes brachial neuritis which can happen any time a needle enters your arm, giving blood etc.). A child in the UK that contracts measles has between 1 and 3 in 1000 risk of dying, never mind those that are left blind or with a brain injury. So I'll reword my initial statement, vaccines are very, very, very unlikely to cause harm to your child, measles is very likely to kill or injure your child. Or someone else, or someone else's child that cannot be vaccinated. Better?

"People have forgotten what measles was like."

I had measles as a child, and have poor eyesight as a result. As a child I also remember seeing children walking with legs in metal braces as a result of polio.

We have eradicated smallpox due to the vaccination programme, and virtually eradicated polio in this country for the same reason.

Yes. One of my cousins nearly died of meningitis as a teenager. Another cousin died as an infant. I also have a family member who is disabled due to the effects of polio.

I'd sooner "risk" vaccinations than repeated courses of antibiotics, which are losing their effectiveness due to overuse.

What is your source that states out of 4 million there were just 35 cases of vaccine injury?

The risks if severe side effects to vaccines are lower than getting in a car accident. Do all anti-vaccine parents never drive their children in cars? Why don't they form anti-car movement - cars are much more dangerous than vaccines!

I totally understand why some children can't have vaccinations. I don't understand parents who won't vaccinate their children as a point of principle.

I also think that there are far too many people who don't understand statistics based on scientific evidence.

600,000 babies born each year x 8 years (1997-2005). Vaccination rate is around 85%, so approximately 4,000,000 vaccinations over 8 years. FOI request for data from Vaccination Damage Payment Unit states 35 successful compensation claims during this period.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4356027.stm

I also think that there are far too many people who don't understand statistics based on scientific evidence.

Agreed. The media doesn't help with it's love of scare stories/miracle drugs largely based on tiny studies or rotten stats.

Op - the whooping cough vaccine is really important in little babies too.
One of my very misguided postnatal-NCT acquaintances had a very poorly baby after she contracted whooping cough at 3 months which left her with brain damage.