May Babies

[GeorginaA]

Have we got enough that I can officially open this thread yet?

How are your little ones doing prufrock, twiglett, snowbird?

I think mine is going down with jaundice. Dh isn't convinced, but it's either that or he's got a lovely tan sigh. I remember all the stress associated with that last time with ds1... hoping ds2 doesn't get it as badly.

He's still being a very sicky baby, about a couple of teaspoons a few hours after each feed (which is odd - I'd have thought if it was a reflux type thing it would happen immediately after the feed?) Midwife seems to think it'll settle after the milk comes in but if not then we'll look at some sort of baby gaviscon. Poor little mite, can't be comfortable for him... and we're sure getting through a lot of laundry!

Feel so bloody knackered at the moment, fed up of bits leaking and being sore, and it's only day 2! How long is it before you start feeling human again? Please tell me that it's sooner than the 2 week paternity leave dh gets!!

LOL can just imagine you doing that - how on earth did you have enough hands?!

Well when I say "I" pushed the pram, I really meant that ds's bum pushed the pram

Libb,
I AM stalking you!!
I came to see how you are doing, and I just want to give you a big hug!! So sorry you are finding things hard. So sorry my last email was so whiney when you have all this to contend with. Give DP a kick for me and look after yourself.
Lots of love.

Thanks Samcj, I promise to mail you later as I have been a bit useless at keeping up to date!

Don't forget that I'm watching out for you too missus!

libb, honey we seem to be at exactly the same stage at the mo, so i know how you feel. i've written another mail to you with my number in case you felt like a chat person to person. Don't worry about replying you have a lot going on, but i'm here if you need to talk.
Love
Cat
xxx

Libb xxxx {} {} {}

Thanks Cat82 and Samcj, have e-mailed you both.

Spots, thank you - I forget we are practically "twins"!. I hope your DD is still smiling loads and doing well - mine has been surprisingly good today and it has been lovely, he must want a happy mum.

I don't smile as much as I should so he doesn't return the favour - although he has been known! mostly why I wanted to tackle the blues problem, he doesn't deserve a sad face!

just wanted to send hugs to you libb (((((((((((libb)))))))))))))

thank you Egypt, it means a great deal. I really didn't mean to put such a gloomy message on here and depress everyone. It will pass and I have such a gorgeous DS wich helps!

He has been a complete angel today so I feel a bit of fraud now xxx

Sorry libb, somehow missed your post first time round. Lots of hugs from me too. Glad you got yourself to the GP and they took you seriously - I hope you start to feel much better very soon.

Don't feel a fraud! I feel like that with ds2 sometimes, I've been telling everyone what a bad sleeper he is and how colicky he's been and now he's got a really good sleeping pattern and I'm sure they don't believe me

I got to escape tonight for an hour
DD1 had her rainbows picnic tonight so dh was in charge of dd2 while dd1 and I went alone to the picnic. It was brilliant it was really hot and sunny and she had great fun running around playing with her friends, sort of makes up for missing her school trip on Wednesday. I got to sit in the sun and chat with the other mums and not need to worry about feeding a baby or winding a baby and it was good, but it was nice to come home and see dd2 of course.

Only downside today is that my hayfever has really been playing up. Have these massive sneezing fits and my nose is all sore and my eyes are all itchy. I asked in the chemist this afternoon if there was anything I could take while breasfeeding, seeing as we were at a park tonight and I wanted to try and stay sane without sneezing all over the place, but the pharmacist checked her book and told me that she couldn't sell me any antihistamines (sp?) and they are not recommended for nursing mothers and I'd have to get something from the GP. Oh well, will have to wait until Monday for that. As it happened I was fine until I stood up to leave and I must have hit the pollen level as I started sneezing then.

Libb, I'm sure you'll start feeling a lot better real soon. Sending lots of Hugs to you

Prufrock, I'm amazed that you are able to feed whilst walking and holding onto dd and pushing a pram. It takes me all my time to feed dd2 while sitting down.

me too linnet, gp gave me some eyedrops and a nasal spray. not as good as antihistamines but will have to do.

dd is being really difficult at the mo. she was such a content baby to start with. hv says she is having a growth spurt - she put on 15oz in 9 days. but she never used to cry like this. so hysterical. she also has a really gross crusted blocked nose. i cant clear the damn thing. what can i do to get the bogies out?! they are well and truely stuck, had to resort to tweezers yesterday when she was still enough. but darent do that again!

message withdrawn

message withdrawn

message withdrawn

Nope - stay in. If you want to have a social life do it at lunchtimes. I had a wonderful lunch at Coq d'argent last week. DD was in nursery and ds came with me and slept contentedly in the buggy by my side. Of course to get him to sleep over lunch I did have to bf on the train into London - and the only seat available was next to two Hells Angels (seriously) but they didn't bat an eyelid or even stare at my boobs!

Egypt I've done tweezers as well, but very blunt ones. Rather than saline drops, try drops of breastmilk - it contains antibodies so both loosens snot and helps with the infection. ds had a sticky eye the other day and I squirted it at every feed and it was gone by next morning.

Linnet - can't remember what it is, but I KNOW there is a safe(ish) hayfever remedy you can take - there have been lots of discussions before so have a search.

We fly to Spain tomorrow. I've got the funkiest pop-up travel cot that folds into a 1 foot circle. DD is veryexcited and keepstelling everyone she is going to build sandturtles

message withdrawn

Yes, breastmilk and sticky eyes works a treat! Hadn't thought of doing breastmilk up his nose... will try that.

Had a horrible trip into town today with the pair of them. Even with DH it was extremely stressful. Ds1 decided to have a full blown tantrum in the library (WHY do they always pick the quietest place where they're most likely to get stared at to do that?!) and Worcester is NOT geared up for prams and pushchairs. Okay, I don't expect small shops to be pushchair friendly, but bigger chains should be! Got stuck on the lower ground floor of debenhams because every time the lift came it was packed full (people getting in at ground wanting to go up) - missed 5 lift fulls until we could escape! Plus the multistoreys here only seem to have about 2 mother and baby slots for the entire populace. Bloody provinces I miss Croydon, can you tell?!

Long live internet shopping, that's what I say...

Hi all. Hope everyones coping ok.
I havent logged on for a while as its been really difficult with DD in my arms, so this is a long one ((sorry)) This weeks been most of the same. Typical day is-
I try and get dressed before DD wakes up at approx 7 or otherwise I dont stand a chance.
DD wakes up and is held constantly all day. I can put her down for approx 5 minutes before she wakes up and starts crying. Ive tried leaving her and she then cries so much I cant calm her down and then spend the next 45 minutes walking round the house, rocking her about and sshh sshing until she eventually falls asleep or I give in and just feed her as I know it will keep her quiet for a bit. I read baby whisperer this week(at least I get to read lots as theres not much else you can do with one arm on a settee) and last night DP attemped to get her to lie down in her basket in our room to go to sleep. It took from 8pm to 10pm of putting down, crying and rocking and even then she would not stay down. By then it was time for her feed so I fed her to sleep. Anyone know why at night DD will sleep in her basket ok but wont anytime between 7am - 10pm?? How are all the others whose babies wont be put down coping?
Libb, sorry your feeling so crap. I suffered with depression during my pregnancy and was perscribed prozac. It is really horrible and noone really knows how you feel. Im sure now that its been diagnosed youll start to feel better with treatment.
Spots, about the reflux. Is DD sick after every feed and if so is it projectile. DD seems to have really bad wind, she pulls her legs to her stomach and grunts and skirms all the time. Even when shes sleeping she keeps wriggling and skirming and looks uncomfortable. Yesterday I fed her and dressed her etc and straight after she was sick loads. It mustve been her whole feed. We both got covered in it. Today shes continued to be sick after each feed, although not as much. We took her to the doctors and he said it may have been a tummy bug. Im not convinced though. I think its either something to do with wind or is reflux.
DP also annoying me, I get DD screaming all day and then when he gets in from work he gets the nice bits like bathing her etc. However I still have to do all the practical things like tidy the house, cook dinner, get her stuff ready for a bath and do washing etc
Quick question How often is everyone breastfeeding their babies?
Also I am feeding DD to sleep, is this a bad thing to do?
Sorry its long, will try and keep it short next time
Bye xx

Kbaby yes pretty much after every feed but not projectile. It's messy and a bit demoralising, as bfeeding still isn't the easiest thing for me (getting better tho' ) but apparently really common. My mum says I was a sicky baby in exactly the same way but it was never named 'reflux'. To be honest I'm not sure how much of a difference diagnosis makes as the Gaviscon just gets sicked up itself a lot of the time. And it's a real hassle doing all the sterilising... thought I'd escaped that by not bottle feeding.

Number of times she's fed : Not Counting. Lot of the time one feed sort of runs into the next one, if I don't realise how hungry she is for instance and neglect to give her both sides when she needs them. Since reading Penelope Leach I'm running on the idea that at this stage what she wants equals what she needs, so total baby rule. Lucky old her I say.

Also with the unputdownableness (must be a better word!?) I have stopped fighting it. She will stay down a little more than she used to now in a bouncy chair with a warm thing on her tummy. I reckon that as she finds out more about the world she'll stop needing the security of being carried all the time and will drop off after some interesting baby activity that she's currently still to little to know about. Agree it's hard in the meantime tho. Saw you swing thread and have to admit she spends loads of time in the baby bjorn, effectively upright. Oh dear. Hadn't thought of the back thing.

Butting in again. Sorry. Libb, just to let you know I am still thinking of you and wishing you better super quick. Lots of hugs and nice things sent to you! Sam. xx

Hello everyone, thanks for your messages of support - they have been a great help and really appreciated.

I haven't started the prescription as we have all had some quality (dare I say in a whisper . . lovely) time together in the last 24 hours and it has made a geat difference to all of us. I guess having a few moments of adult company with the HV/GP yesterday helped too. Although I am not underestimating how I can feel/might feel at times, I am not feeling so downbeat about it all at the moment. I am seeing the health visitor on Monday so will have a good chat then. Also, coming on here and admitting that I have not been coping as well as I had hoped to has been a great help and you all mean a great deal to me. Thank you.

DS hasn't been picking up on my mood and getting upset and therefore I'm not getting upset because of it. He is even falling asleep and going into his basket without too much trauma - I've put an unwashed t-shirt in with him (nice) and it seems to have worked so far (she said frantically touching DP's head for wood!).

DP and I have sorted some differences out too, I guess it had been brewing for a while and needed to be put out to air! Relationships are always a work in progress aren't they? I will not come second place to a football game though.

DS seems to have discovered his hands and his tongue today, he sucks his hands and pokes his tongue out far too much for any polite company! He has also shared a few tentative smiles today, the poor little mite hasn't seen too many recently! I could almost imagine that someone has mentioned to him that his six weeks are up . . .

I really hope that you are all well and taking care of yourselves. Thank you again for everything so far. Your kindness goes a long long way xxxx

Samcj, you crept up behind me! (well, it take me a while to write my last post, look at the size of it!) I will e-mail you as soon as I can - I really appreciate you posting/e-mailing. You are a sweetie. I hope things are going well for you and that you got the gas saga sorted.

The same goes for you Cat82, it is too late to text you tonight but you'll be hearing from me . . .

xxx

I will have a look for info on a hayfever remedy to take although I plan to have finished breastfeeding by the end of next week at the latest. Eyedrops and a nasal sparay are a nono for me Egypt, I just can't deal with them at all. I remember one year I was really bad and the GP gave me eyedrops as well as my usual antihistimine, I had to get dh to put them in for me and even then it was a battle, I can't stand things being near my eyes just seems alien to me. And as for nasal sprays, yuck. Sorry that's just me, I think I'd rather suffer.

Had quite a good day today, it rained which was horrible and it was really cold but at least it meant the hayfever didn't bother me. Dd2 had her afternoon nap but when she woke up seems to have developed a really hoarse cry, wondering if she maybe has a sore throat but she doesn't seem to have a temperature or anything. she sounds so pitiful when she cries, really hoarse, maybe she's coming down with a cold or something, poor little mite, I'm keeping a close eye on her.

I only have two feeds to drop now and I'm trying to decide the best way to do it. Should I drop them one at a time or both at the same time? I know that I'm going to be sore for a day or two and can't decide if I should just go cold turkey or ease into it.

Kbaby when I was fully breastfeeding, dd2 would feed 6 times a day on a good day but occasionally on the days that really got to me she could feed anytyhing up to 8 or 9 times. They were never really long feeds though usually only lasted for 20 minutes. And now and again she would fall asleep while feeding and I'd just put her into bed. Doesn't seem to have done her any harm and I remember doing the same with dd1.

Ok, question I do have is how long is too long between dirty nappies?

dd2 hasn't had a dirty nappy since Thursday. She seems at times as if she needs to have one but just can't manage, given her windypops and gripe water but no dirty nappy. I asked the HV about this on Tuesday as the same had happened last weekend and she said that as she gets older and her bowels settle down its common to go a day to a day and a half without a dirty nappy. She's doing lots of farts so the wind is escaping and she seems ok in herself but just thought I'd ask the wisdom of mumsnet. Is anybody elses baby doing the same?

dd2 also likes to be held a lot of the time. Usually up on a shoulder which means that if I'm home alone I can't get anything done. Sometimes she's happy to lie on her mat but then gets cranky and likes to be up on a shoulder where she can see whats going on. she's very nosey, don't know where she gets it from, honest