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does corrie care at all about current baby advice?

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chumbler · 28/06/2015 14:54

watching Faye and baby Miley story line with interest. so far I've noticed she bottle feeds with no mention ever of breastfeeding, in fact there was even a tommee tippee bottle thing in the background, definitely being used for formula (product placement? advertising formula??), I also wonder why no one has mentioned that Faye might be suffering from pnd? why is no one helping her? and in Friday's episode Faye's mum says that Miley is asleep in parent's bedroom - ie leaving a baby to sleep alone before 6 months?

seriously corrie, what's going on?

*not against ff at all, just think bf is hard enough without a huge soap ignoring it practically every time there's a baby (didn't Maria only bf for a couple of days?)

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monkeyfacegrace · 28/06/2015 20:52

And if the tommee tippee thing in thr background is the perfect prep machine then great. It's fucking awesome and all parents should have one!

Looserella · 28/06/2015 20:58

It's not a documentary. And there's nothing wrong with formula feeding or having a baby sleep in another room.

Thurlow · 28/06/2015 20:59

God, if I'd had DD with me every second of the day for 6 months we'd both have been sleep deprived, barking messes!

The SIDS guidelines are a longer list. You make your decisions based on your own analysis. Baby who won't settle at night in a room with any light or noise at all and wants to sleep from 7? You make a decision - baby asleep on their back, appropriately covered, in a cool room being checked regularly seems preferable to no one ever getting any sleep or food for 6 months.

But then again, with one of those magical soap babies that sleeps all the time they'd probably be fine having it kipping in the living room in broad daylight at 8pm with everyone else around Grin

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LibrariesGaveUsPower · 28/06/2015 21:04

I don't watch corrie.

None of that stuff sounds wrong.tbh. Ok, so I hate all product placement but that's wider.

I do get annoyed with all the "Ooh he'll sleep for four hours now" with days old babies and lack of any noticeble disturbance to social life though. Because it makes RL parents feel bad.

chumbler · 28/06/2015 21:10

glad to see we're all agreed Grin

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BertieBotts · 28/06/2015 21:56

Guidelines say babies should not nap alone under 6 months.

However soaps don't really look at guidelines, do they? They look at real life. In real life the vast majority of people both bottle feed and leave babies to sleep alone. Since breastfeeding is difficult to show on film, and it's hard to get babies to sleep on cue, it's also convenient for them to have the baby bottle fed (as any actor can do it) and sleeping elsewhere (so they can be talked about but not in shot)

How boring would a soap be if everyone had perfectly emotionally healthy relationships, reacted to everything in the most guideliney way and followed every bit of health advice ever? It would be boring, weird, and not at all true to life.

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 28/06/2015 23:19

Guidelines say babies should not nap alone under 6 months.

Who came up with that shite? People have lives, other children, shit to do. We can't sit and stare at the baby round the clock for 6 months.

This is one ridiculous guideline I'm glad I have not heard of.

AndNowItsSeven · 28/06/2015 23:39

The not napping alone is because babies regulate their breathing to yours. Being able to hear you baby is not the point. The risks are tiny, lexyloub I do not need a grip, and I am not a perfect mother. However my dsis died due to SIDS so I would rather not take the risk. I don't judge others I just pointed out the guidelines.

RedandYellow24 · 28/06/2015 23:46

I thought there was more risk with your child over heating, you laying on them in your bed , blankets pillows covering them than in their own cot. Own cot cool room on back etc has always been the advice.

ZenNudist · 28/06/2015 23:57

I think you're taking corrie too seriously . If you want to get really worked up about inadequate baby care watch Friends repeats when Rachel has Emma then we hardly ever see baby except if convenient for storyline.

Soap babies are usually born and conveniently sidelined for 10 years before being trotted out for proper stories.

YellowTangerine · 29/06/2015 02:05

I think it would be more inappropriate for a 13 year old actress to be breastfeeding someone else's child for the sake of a TV show.

MissBananaMama · 29/06/2015 02:11

Maybe you should write to the producers and complain...

Hmm
karbonfootprint · 29/06/2015 03:56

This is one ridiculous guideline I'm glad I have not heard of.

that's because it doesn't exist , winter!

scaevola · 29/06/2015 04:22

It does exist in that it's a Lullaby Trust (formerly FSID) recommendation.

It also recommends a lot of other things, such as breast feeding and never dropping off holding your baby on a sofa.

But it does them, not in a bossy 'you must breastfeed!' way, but in a supportive: here is a current well-evidenced view, for example: "Parents may still choose to bed-share with their baby. If this is your choice, it is important that you are informed about how to minimise the risks" and goes on to talk about keeping loose bedding and pillows away from the baby's head, not sharing if you smoke, are on medication or drunk etc.

Though I agree with the general idea that soaps these days are simply not accurate enough for the weighty storylines. The absence of Faye's social worker this week being another example.

(I really, really hope there is not another cancer storyline. Corrie's writing team isn't up to it at the moment).

Nessalina · 29/06/2015 04:36

This thread is like a weird parenting twilight zone... How is everyone denying that one of the primary SIDS prevention guidelines exist??
See the NHS site here where it clearly states:
'Place your baby on their back to sleep, in a cot in the room with you. The safest place for your baby to sleep is on their back in a cot in a room with you for the first six months.'
Also on this NHS page where it's very clear:
'Where should my baby sleep?
For the first six months your baby should be in the same room as you when they're asleep, both day and night.'
Just because a LOT of people don't follow the guidelines, for whatever reason, it's doesn't mean they don't exist, and I totally agree that a mainstream programme like Corrie should aim to show current best practice with babies.
I used to get very annoyed with Last Tango In Halifax because the first little baby in that was carted around EVERYWHERE in her car seat, because it was obviously the most convenient thing for filming, but if it had been a real baby it would have been in there for waaaay longer than they recommend.
That baby was also bottle fed, as all TV babies are, but like Corrie I do agree that it fitted with the storyline as the mum was having bonding issues, so BFing would have been very unlikely.
Incidentally, they don't know why being in the same room reduces the risk of SIDS , which is why the NHS site is frustratingly vague, they just know that when a baby succumbs to SIDS, it happens more often when they're alone. It is thought to be because of a number of reasons, eg.the background noise of people around them prevents them going into too deep a sleep, or that the increased level of carbon dioxide in the room helps to regulate their breathing, or just that any problems with the baby are picked up quicker because someone is around to see it.
We'll never know why it is better for a baby to sleep in a room with someone because there is no way of conducting clinical trials (it would be unethical to put some babies on their own to see what effect it had!) so the guidelines draw on the statistics of actual SIDS deaths.
Sorry for the essay - other than tea & pee breaks I was in the room with my DS til he was 6 months old, and as it is probably one of the most frequently disregarded guidelines I had to do a lot of justifying it to friends and relatives!
I appreciate that it's not the most practical of advice points, and some people can't follow it (because they have another child!) but everyone does what they can to reduce the prominent risk factors in any way they can, and there's no reason to make out that the OP and Seven have two heads because they're following current advice.

Nessalina · 29/06/2015 04:37

Sorry, don't know why all my paragraphs have disappeared in the above post Confused

KatoPotato · 29/06/2015 04:47

I was more concerned about sinead in hollyoaks out on the lash in white skinny jeans three days post partum! These documentaries are not one but realistic!!

scaevola · 29/06/2015 04:56

They did have a nod to making up formula properly. Tim was shown levelling scoops with a knife (don't remember seeing that shown before).

There should have been considerably more support around (ex-LAC) Faye, as she is so young and had concealed her pregnancy. They did show one meeting with a social worker, straight after the birth, but for some reason the scriptwriters ended their involvement at that point.

LittleLionMansMummy · 29/06/2015 08:20

It's not just Corrie though. I do get quite annoyed that all soaps seem to promote bottle feeding as the ideal. Not against ff at all, but with bfing rates so low among younger mothers in particular, i do think there's a need for soaps to help 'normalise' bfing. That doesn't necessarily mean actresses getting their breasts out on tv either. If they can create fires, tram crashes etc then some clever lighting and a subtle camera angle is not beyond the realms of possibility.

LineRunner · 29/06/2015 08:29

The discussions on the Corrie thread at the moment centre a lot around how shit the writing is. The writers even had Kevin Webster apparently forgetting that he had lost a child (and presumably the actor managed to forget that previous plotline as well) which was pretty crap.

MrsDeVere · 29/06/2015 08:38

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WhoKnowsWhereTheTimeGoes · 29/06/2015 09:46

Also, Eddie, who was Anna's partner and co-adoptive parent of Faye buggered off about 5 mins after the adoption became finalised. I know they can't stop actors leaving, but no one seemed to bat an eyelid.

Re the not leaving babies alone, I think in Faye's case it fits along with the FF in that she didn't really bond with the baby so wasn't following best practice in many respects. I must admit the advice to keep them with you during daytime naps managed to completely pass me by when mine were babies, either that or it is more recent. Unfortunately soaps rarely show anyone following best practice in any aspect of life, work, exercise, drinking you name it.

LibrariesGaveUsPower · 29/06/2015 10:02

As ever, I agree with Mrs De Vere.

cosmicglittergirl · 29/06/2015 10:10

In Eastenders baby Pearl was born early and there wasn't a fuss/mention of that, then about a week later her mum was out on the piss all night! I thought that was unlikely.
Baby Lily in Corrie just slept All the time.

eddiemairswife · 29/06/2015 10:28

Baby Lily still sleeps all the time!