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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 12:51

...do you have any plans for another boot camp soon? I need a shove to start with dd and was thinking of doing it over xmas when off work. She's 2.4 btw. Anyone else ready?

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FrannyandZooey · 16/11/2006 12:57

Oh doggie, ignore that fish, you seem quite a sensible type to me

come over to the dark side and join my clique of potty refuseniks

we call it Child Led Potty Training

TheHighwayCod · 16/11/2006 12:57

or
" shittign all over the floor"

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 12:57

Haha brilliant! can I keep her in nappies till she goes to school?

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NomDePlume · 16/11/2006 12:58

arf @ shitting all over the floor

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 12:58

OK - let's see both manifestos
I am open minded.

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jessicaandrebeccasmummy · 16/11/2006 13:00

i need help too.

Jessi is almost 2.4 and will sit on potty, and toilet, do nothing, then piss all over the floor.

Ready for bootcamp - if only to save money on bloody nappies!!

FrannyandZooey · 16/11/2006 13:00

mine has never shat on the floor

the thing is you almost completely avoid accidents because - doh - you are not training them, they are doing it when they are ready

most are ready to try around 3, doggie, and it really is a piece of piss if you leave it until they are physically and mentally mature enough to just get it

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:00

I have to have a wee boast here actually. Dd did a poo IN THE TOILET at nursery on monday. Then yesterday she peed in toilet. But won't sit on toilet at home. Think we will need to get a little special bog for her like the nursery ones.

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:02

Sounds good to me F&Z. She knows when she's doing it but not before, & nursery staff are ahem 'encouraging' me to get her out of nappies but not sure she's quite ready yet.

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:03

lol at being lofty about not shitting on floor btw.

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NomDePlume · 16/11/2006 13:04

I have to say that I agree with franny here. I tried to 'train' DD at 2, 2y3m and 2y6m. She just wasn't ready and it stressed us both out unnecessarily. I vowed to leave it until she was 3 (despite DH's 'She'll be going to Uni in nappies' hysterics) and lo she was out of nappies in the day within the week. No fuss, no tears, easy as that.

She is now 4y3m and isn't dry at night yet, we've done all of the things that we need to do (no fluids after 5pm and making sure she goes for a wee before she gets into bed) but she is still wet in the mornings. She has always had a very active night-time bladder, her nappies have always been sodden in the mornings. We'll just wait until she is ready (although DH is getting twitchy again )

Twiglett · 16/11/2006 13:06

I think 2.4 is probably too young

wait until 2 and a half and see if they're interested in wearing in pants then train them

if they're not .. don't worry

FrannyandZooey · 16/11/2006 13:07

Seriously, we have had 6 accidents since he trained himself 6 months ago. That's less than most potty trainers get in a day.

I do understand people training early if money / time is an issue, as nappies are not cheap, and washing your own is tiresome

But seriously if you want an easy life, wait until they tell you themselves that they want to do it, or until you feel they are completely capable, and it will take a fraction of the time and be virtually stress free for both of you

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:12

Thanks guys, it's nice to hear the other side. Most people I talk to are all 'oh are you not toilet training yet?' and it's making me think I have to do it even though I don't really want to. Think it's the nursery thing - you pay too much attention to the other LOs' progress. My niece has been dry during the day since she was 2yr3m but I do think she's quite precocious.

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Lio · 16/11/2006 13:13

doggie: a 'wee' boast, boom boom!

Read an interesting article in The Guardian Family section on Saturday by Kate Clanchy. Oh, just had a look, doesn't seem to be on the website. The gist was that babies can be taught to have control v v early on and we are teaching ours to be lazy (something I have long suspected about ds, 3.1).

JonesTheSteam · 16/11/2006 13:14

I agree with Franny.

Tried DS (3.2) in the summer - not a chance - after a good start we ended up with 5 or 6 accidents a day of both varieties . Gave up after about 10 days!! Stuck him back in pull-ups and took him to the toilet occasionally.

Over half term - he suddenly announces he needs the toilet. Has had one accident since. Also for the last four nights he has been dry even though still wearing a nappy.

It has been completely stress free

I'm now a fully fledged member of the 'When they're ready, they're ready' brigade.

NomDePlume · 16/11/2006 13:14

"teaching ours to be lazy"

What a crock

JonesTheSteam · 16/11/2006 13:17

Maybe this is what we should all aspire to?

Rhubarb · 16/11/2006 13:19

My ds will be 3 next month and he is not ready.

I did try going cold turkey with him, he was sent to nursery in pants and we didn't put a nappy on him in 2 weeks, but then I ran out of clean dry trousers for him! I had to ask the nursery if I could borrow a spare pair from them!

He would wee and not tell us about it, same with pooing (once did it in the library - small village library no toilets, I was tempted to hide it between the pages of a Jeffrey Archer book - or to be ironic, in a potty training book! But I managed to sneak it out wrapped up in his pants.), I think he just didn't want to be potty trained. He never asked for the potty once and would sit on it for 2 hours if I bribed him, then get off and do his business elsewhere!

Recently I took his nappy off again and he did do a poo in it and I did the clapping and cheering, chocolate treat, but he hasn't repeated this.

I'll try again after Christmas I think.

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:24

Like that link JonesTheSteam. What planet are they on?

Lio, I saw that article and thought of cod

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:27

Rhubarb I think this is what I'm in for if we do it now! at hiding it in J Archer book.

When I picked up dd from nursery on Monday, the staff were telling me about the poo in the toilet and making a huge fuss of her - they gave her a sticker etc - and her wee face was just blank - 'what did I do? Are you pleased?' think she'd forgotten all about it.

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FrannyandZooey · 16/11/2006 13:29

However I have a lot of time for the Elimination Training people - they carry their babies and watch their signals etc and just hold them over the potty when they realise it is the right moment. I think they do it more or less from birth.

I know my way is not very eco friendly but I do think leaving it until they are ready is less likely to cause them stress, and less likely to become a bone of contention between the two of you. Let's face it who needs an extra thing to battle with a toddler about?

oranges · 16/11/2006 13:36

Haven't managed elimination training for wee, but my great grandmother had a trick to make babies poo, that really works. Means I can make ds poo before we go out - it is really helpful. ok, will get back to work now, instead of discussing potty habits..

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doggiesayswoof · 16/11/2006 13:37

oranges, don't go without telling us the trick!

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oranges · 16/11/2006 13:39

put baby on changing mat, raise legs, or jiggle them a bit and dribble a bit of warm water onto bum. Wait a while and the poo does come out - honest! Make sure there is something on changing mat to catch it!

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