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Can anybody tell me what this means? V worried re Re adult son

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BananaCake123 · 22/06/2015 11:04

Feel really bad but am desperately worried about DS. Undiagnosed officially but is ASD. 23 years old but in terms of emotional development is still very much in teenage phase. V uncommunicative and difficult to talk to. Simmering with latent anger, mostly at his upbringing (by me). (I had a terrible marriage, suffered extreme depression and took out a lot on the children. Now re-married but took him 10 years to "accept" stepdad). V bright but he has no real job - appears naive about the world and uses house like a hotel. Spends all his time in his room watching TV or on his laptop. Appears for meals. Not much respect although better than it has been. Never brings friends to the house. Never appeared to have a social life. Now he has a bar job but often doesn't come home until 8am. Seems to be always on his phone but never talks about having friends. I only know of 1 friend from schooldays. If he goes out he only gives me minimal information. Very cagey. Never tells me who he is out with or what he is doing and if I ask, he always says the same friend (the only one I know of) and that he's going to the pictures. My guilt over his upbringing, and his own ASD issues prevent me from treating him in a more "normal" way and being assertive about my expectations of him as a member of the household. Eg I've tried to talk to him about contributing to the household -even just in terms of doing some jobs around the house but it falls on deaf ears).

Last night he stayed out last night but forgot to take his phone. I'm sorry, I know it's bad of me but I looked through his messages. I didn't know any of the names on there. There were none from the friend he always claims to be meeting up with. Some were from colleagues at the bar where he works. But most of them were about arrangements for meeting up for cinema \ drinks\party. Mostly "normal" I suppose. Although most of them were relatively short threads as though he's only known them for a short while (I'm talking about exchanges of maybe 10 texts on average in total). IT could be as simple as these are new people he has met through being a barman.

But then there were a series of messages from different numbers (no names assigned). Each number contained one text only, which was simply an address (a different one each time). A London address, usually a flat. So something like a text from +44 12345678 then inside the message would read 123 Any Road W123 (basement flat). Nothing else. No reply, no 'conversation'. Just that. I'm really worried. I don't know what this means. Can you help? I can't ask him. Thank you. x

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FuckitFay · 22/06/2015 22:55

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MrsEvadneCake · 22/06/2015 22:59

I hope the sleep helps Flowers

imjustahead · 22/06/2015 23:04

i guess whilst he is still living with you it's hard to separate yourself and him in ways.

I feel for you i do. Have you ever talked about him moving out? I think it would be best if you could, to cut each other free in ways where you won't be pissing each other off, giving off guilty vibes etc..

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Heartofgold25 · 23/06/2015 09:20

Bananacake. I agree completely with other posts. I don't think at 23 years old he needs to be 'parented' anymore. I would distance myself emotionally some what, keep the door open if needs you, he will speak to you. If he is in trouble and there is nothing to suggest he is, you will know about it. Do not live in fear. I am sure he is fine, he is living the life he has chosen.
Whatever he is doing at those addresses ~ innocent or not, it is his choice and has nothing to do with you. He may still live at home, but he still has a right to his freedom and privacy. I would assert the need to help with the household chores, and would stop cooking for him all of the time, suggest he does it once a week. Empower him with skills so that when he does move out, he can manage and cope confidently. Show him how to use the washing machine and then leave him to do it. Let him grow up.

BananaCake123 · 23/06/2015 12:42

Thank you all. Feeling less anxious today and more able to think about solutions. I think that you are all right to say that he has the right to live his own life. I have never wanted to control that. I was just very shocked at he seemed to be making choices that were possibly dangerous or immoral - I know that sounds judgmental but I am not that worldly wise and these kinds of things are alien to me. My upbringing was very strict, very sheltered and very oppressive. I wanted the opposite for DC. Wanted them to feel free, happy and to grow up well-adjusted wand with a sense of self worth (did a great job there). So you can see how I feel that the way he is deciding to live is something I cannot relate to.

I do know, however, that it is something I have to accept. But what you all have also helped me see is that what I don't have to accept is the way he feels he has the right to live under my roof without any sense of adult or family responsibility. So what I have decided is that there will be a conversation. It won't be about the phone or about the details of his choices of how he wants to live his life. But it will involve a discussion along the lines of "it's fine for you to live at home, but if that is your choice, then this is what I expect of you (assert expectations)...... and if you feel you can't accept these terms, then you are welcome to move out and live as you feel best suits you, and I will try and support you in achieving that"

I know I don't need the approval of mumsnetters in regard to what I say or do, but you have helped enormously me thus far, and I know it's\I am pathetic, but - speaking as someone who is completely devoid of all confidence in her capacity to make good decisions - can I ask you if you think this is a sensible solution\approach?

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lexyloub · 23/06/2015 12:55

I think it's a good idea, maybe sit both son's down at the same time and set your expectations to both of them (even if your other son already does these things ) if you feel speaking your 23yo on his on could cause some resistance or result in an argument. Stay strong.

BananaCake123 · 23/06/2015 13:31

That's a great idea, lexy - thank you. x

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BananaCake123 · 23/06/2015 14:15

Thank you Fay I am positively shaking at the thought of doing this x

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Haffdonga · 23/06/2015 20:10

Good luck Banana. That sounds extremely sensible.

Considering his ASD, it may actually help your DS if you are extremely specific about your expectations. A generalised statement about respecting each other or helping out more is less likely to be successful than a more specific request e.g. that he does his own washing or cooks twice a week. It would be easier to include ds2 in this too so he doesn't feel it's aimed at him.

All the best Thanks

Atenco · 25/06/2015 06:13

Just read this and congratulations OP, your solution sounds excellent

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wannabestressfree · 25/06/2015 08:34

Can I just say though- I have a child with ASD and don't give him a stick to beat you with. You made mistakes I get that and I have too BUT you seem to be letting this stop you from dealing with anything. Move on and he will. Fixate about perceived wrongs and he will too.
I agree with others, sit down and have a chat about expectations, contribution both financial and work wise. He will like this and stick to it like glue.......
Hugs though. It's hard.

Blu · 25/06/2015 08:51

I think many concensual gay liaisons, via Grindr and the like, are arranged like that. Do you have any inkling as to your son's sexuality?

Good luck OP, I understand your anxiety and the difficulty of negotiating new boundaries.

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