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GIna devotees only - how & when didyou start trying to put baby in a routine?

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bodenbetty · 16/07/2006 12:51

I don't want to start anything contentious - just windering how to go about starting teh whole routine thing. DD is only 10 days so probably a little young just yet but am trying to think ahead. her idea of night & mine don't coincide but have stared feeding her in the dark from 7pm on hoping she will get teh message!

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

WideWebWitch · 21/07/2006 11:37

Imafairy, no-one is entitled to post on mumsnet and demand that only those who agree with them post in reply. Just thought I'd point that out, www, public forum and all that.

WideWebWitch · 21/07/2006 11:38

dreamteamgirl · 21/07/2006 11:45

Can I just ask which parts of GF people consider abuse and neglect?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

Families General parenting

morningpaper · 21/07/2006 11:47

... more tea?

expatinscotland · 21/07/2006 11:48

'Remember, we are here to support each other, not slag people and their methods off'

New to MN then, are you?

morningpaper · 21/07/2006 11:49

"Lucy was a third baby and was totally breastfed... I agreed to move in for six days to try and help sort Lucy out, on the one condition that the mother was prepared to allow controlled crying. I also insisted that Lucy be given a bottle of fomula ... Reluctantly, her mother agreed to this... (An hour after her first bottle of formula) her mother was very anxious and felt we should check on her. As Lucy had rolled onto her tummy her mother proceeded to roll her over on to her back again. I explained that a baby of Lucy's age much be allowed to sleep in the position that the find most comfortable. She was very concerned about cot death... [conclusion] Her mother was obviously not producing enough milk to settle Lucy at 7pm."

James, aged 5 1/2 months.

"[Controlled crying] was not working so I suggested to his mother that we try not going into him at all... He woke on the dot of 1am and went beserk; for over an hour he never gave up once. Eventually he went quiet, only to start yelling again an hour later. This went on and off until 5am, when he went quiet. The next night we agreed to take the same approach; I would go into him only if he got into serious difficulties." [Conclusion: this continued for five days, by which time they had "conquered the sleeping".]

Routine for 2-4 week old:

"12 noon nap: If he wakes up after 45 minutes, check the swaddle but do not talk to him or turn the lights on. Allow 20 minutes for him to resettle himself (cry)."

"If baby wakes in the night avoid eye contact or talking."

morningpaper · 21/07/2006 11:50

these are a few passages that may arouse some negative feelings

hunkermunker · 21/07/2006 11:51

It's the insistence of formula that makes me and

hunkermunker · 21/07/2006 11:52

And other things.

He's my baby and I'll make eye contact if I want.

Why wouldn't I? He has beautiful eyes.

Bugsy2 · 21/07/2006 11:53

Good luck Bodenbetty with your little DD & congrats too on her arrival.
Some babies settle into routines far more easilty than others, as far as I can tell. I have friends who'd never heard of Gina Ford but whose babies seemed to naturally slip into a happy feeding & sleeping routine.
Others, like my two, would rather kill their mother with sleep deprivation than ever accomodate any blinking routine. I am a control freak, I was genuinely desperate to do GF & trying nearly sent me over the edge into insanity.
Totally with Custy & Dottydot on this - go with what works for you & see how you get on. Why not try GF for a few days & see if your dd gets on with it?

hunkermunker · 21/07/2006 11:55

I hesitate, but I post anyway

I'm like that, you see.

morningpaper · 21/07/2006 11:55

The middle one (James, 5 1/2 months) makes me want to cry - he cries for up to four hours, for FIVE NIGHTS IN A ROW

the shame the shame the shame

expatinscotland · 21/07/2006 11:57

Big Brother is watching you!

I'm going to start a thread, 'Clog-wearing devotees ONLY! Which colour Crocs?'

morningpaper · 21/07/2006 11:58

good placenta thread

Bugsy2 · 21/07/2006 12:02

Come on laydeez, lets not add any potential grist to the mill of the "litigous one"! Bodenbetty was only making an enquiry about when routines were introduced, for those who'd done it.

kiskidee · 21/07/2006 12:22

"[Controlled crying] was not working so I suggested to his mother that we try not going into him at all.... The next night we agreed to take the same approach; I would go into him only if he got into serious difficulties." [Conclusion: this continued for five days, by which time they had "conquered the sleeping".]

another bizarre inference here is: how would you know he was in serious difficulties if you didn't go into him at all.

for ME and only me, my baby is in serious difficulty if she sounds hysterical.

Boden Betty: if you go to www.amazon.ca and then search for 'contented baby' on amazon, there is a detailed review by a poster with reservations about Gina Ford and her advice for breast fed babies. there are also more positive reviews there too. can't do links on the pc at work.

have a read after all, this is your baby. no one else's.

Imafairy · 21/07/2006 12:32

Hunker - great thread!!!!
WWW - For as long as I've been on MN this subject has upset people, so all I was trying to say is that if it looks like a subject is going to upset you then maybe you should steer clear ('you' not being you personally, but I'll be damned if I write 'one' )
Now, who'd like to join me in the garden for a virtual PIMMS???

morningpaper · 21/07/2006 12:33

Imafairy - people aren't UPSET by discussing it

They just want to convey the message that THERE IS ANOTHER WAY

as NatWest might say

hunkermunker · 21/07/2006 12:33

Thing is though, if people avoided subjects that upset them, some of the best and most emotive posts would never be written.

It would have to be blandnet and that would be a shame.

WideWebWitch · 21/07/2006 12:34

Imafairy, are you connected to the Fairy non bio mentioned here?

Imafairy · 21/07/2006 12:41

WWW - thankfully I'm a Persil fairy!!! Quite a bizarre marketing join up though isn't it?

piglit · 21/07/2006 12:46

I'm only going to post one more time on this thread - this whole GF thing winds me up. GF does involve letting your baby cry. For example - check out what GF says about getting breast fed babies to take a bottle. There's a bit in her book about twins who refuse to take a bottle and she tells the mother not to feed them for 7 hours to make sure they are hungry (WTF??). When GF turns up at the house the babies are screaming the place down as they haven't been fed for 7 hours. Nice.

WideWebWitch · 21/07/2006 12:48

It is truly bizarre imsfairy.

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bodenbetty · 21/07/2006 13:16

oh dear I din't mean to start a full on bun fight. as I said I know Gina isn't for everyone - I was just innterested in teh experiences & opinions of people who had found her useful.
I think DD is alittel young & a litel contrary for it yet but we'llsee....

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harpsichordcarrier · 21/07/2006 13:32

ooh thanks everyone for filling in
no, I didn't use the GF methods for my babies, because I have had professional contact with very many people who have and are using her methods.
oh and I have changed my mind - make that very defensive

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