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Dd1 is delightful, ds is adorable and cute, but dd2...

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emkana · 14/07/2006 20:54

... and I just clash all the time and she winds me up so much! And I feel so guilty about it...
she will be three in August and she is very headstrong, totally different to dd1 who has always been very compliant. It doesn't help that she wouldn't settle at playgroup when she started there in February, so that after two months of trying I had to take her out again. She is due to start again in September, but for now we spend every minute of the day together and tbh I could do with a break from her.
I know that sounds horrible, and I hate myself for being so grumpy and miserable with her all the time, but she just winds me up the wrong way somehow.
All I hear from her all day is, in moany whingy voice, "But I don't wannooo" or "But I want to!" or endless, endless why questions which get on my nerves sometimes...
I feel that dd2 is getting the horrible mummy, whereas dd1 and ds get all my good bits.
Oh I could go on and on, I just feel so guilty and bad but don't know how to change things.

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emkana · 14/07/2006 21:44

That's it - if I say to dd1 that I'm cross with her she'll cry because she is so eager to please me all the time.
Dd2 couldn't care less if I'm shouting at her until I'm blue in the face!

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emkana · 14/07/2006 21:47

That was in response to chipkid.

I feel so bad as well because dd2 has had the full brunt of seeing me suffer through this pregnancy with ds, first the awful sickness, the the worrying... dd1 has been at school so felt it less.
I just feel that dd2 is being short-changed.

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chipkid · 14/07/2006 21:49

only have to say no sternly to dd, and she says sorry mummy (she is only just talking!!!). If I say no a hundred times to ds he just doesn't hear me!

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edam · 14/07/2006 23:03

I think Soapbox's idea might be worth a try, you know.

ScummyMummy · 14/07/2006 23:16

Do you have siblings, emkana? If so, can you remember what your relationship with them was like when you were children and what your parents' relationship with each of you was like? I think that sometimes part of the root of these sorts of things lie in stuff that happens way before our children are even twinkles in our eyes.

emkana · 15/07/2006 10:35

I had the usual best intentions for the day, but already she's had a huge tantrum, hasn't done as she was told, and I'm in tears .
Also dh and dd had to go out together, so it's me and dd2 together alone again and I've had enough (well ds is here but...)

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MissChief · 15/07/2006 10:38

oh feel for you - ds1 and me are like this, always have been feel v.v.guilty but seem inevitably to clash, whereas ds 2 a sweetie

mears · 15/07/2006 10:39

Is DH out for long? When he gets back, get him to take DD2 out. I think you need a break from her and recharge your batteries for coping with her. Are you really Tired? Would a day lying in bed with DS let you get some sleep?

mears · 15/07/2006 10:39

Is DH out for long? When he gets back, get him to take DD2 out. I think you need a break from her and recharge your batteries for coping with her. Are you really Tired? Would a day lying in bed with DS let you get some sleep?

emkana · 15/07/2006 10:43

Dh will be back at about 2 pm.
I'm upstairs now, dd2 is downstairs, I'm just ignoring her, but I feel sad because I had such good intentions to spend some quality time with her, but now I don't want to anymore because I feel so upset.
I also resent her in a way because she prevents me from having time alone with ds.
I'm just horrible, aren't I?

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milward · 15/07/2006 10:45

emkana - could have been me writing your post.

My dd3 - 3yrs - is a hooligan at home & soooo well behaved at her pre-school. She does things to get to me - weeing on the floor, drawing on the wall, hitting dd2, the list goes on. I just feel like crying sometimes - I've tried calm, I've tried holding her - nothing works. Wish she would play nice

thoughts to you xxx hope things improve xxx

mears · 15/07/2006 10:47

Well why not put on a big smile, give her a hug and ask her what she wants to do. Spend the morning with her, then when DH comes home, ask him to take the girls out to give you some peace. If you manage to have a bit of quality time with her, you will both feel better. Could you go out for a walk to a park?

milward · 15/07/2006 10:49

I'll be out this afternoon but will check later xxx

My dh has taken her to the supermarket & she'll be the best behaved little one there - just wait until she gets home & she'll start all the things she does.

I'm here withe ds4. Once I was was sad that he might turn out like her - he's so lovely just as she was as a baby.

milward · 15/07/2006 10:51

My dd1 & dd2 are playing well with no battles - enjoying the peace & quiet.

niceglasses · 15/07/2006 10:57

thinking of you em - would second getting dh to take her away - she might appreciate some one on one. OR if you could face it have some one on one with her - maybe out of the house?? Hard with the baby tho. Poor you.

emkana · 15/07/2006 11:04

The thing is she has one on one with me all the time anyway - ds sleeps a lot and doesn't really "disturb" us much - I think dd2 and me just have too much time together.
Glad it will be the holidays soon when dd1 will be around.

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sparklemagic · 15/07/2006 11:27

Although my DS is an only I can see that he is as many of you describe; he is totally his own person, incredibly strong likes and dislikes, his own opinions, doesn't have a 'wanting to please' cell in his body, is also very independent in some ways but clingy as well......

I can see that if he had come along as a second child, after a compliant and biddable first child, I would be totally floored.

So I do sympathise.

I think you do need a break from her - remember how you feel now, when the time comes to leave her in Sept at Nursery - and just go even if she has to be peeled off! She WILL appreciate you more for having had time away from you.

I also firmly believe that she is going to have absorbed some of your stress of the last few months and this will be making her harder to deal with.

It's unbelievably easy to get drawn into a negative cycle with kids like this and I agree with others who say ACT as if you are besotted with her, as if everything she does is adorable....if she is getting impossible, laugh and smile affectionately and say "oh, I do love you, you're so gorgeous" when you are thinking the opposite! It's got to be worth a try.

Toddler taming is brilliant, read if you haven't and give it another look if already familiar.

and accpetance is a wonderful thing - she is as she is and whether you give yourself a stroke getting angry about it, or let it wash over you, will not change her!

I do really really sympathise, hope things get better.

arfishymeau · 15/07/2006 11:37

Oh EmK, my DD is just like your DD2. Today she woke me up at 5.45 and started whingeing.

12 hours of hideous toddler behaviour later we were at complete meltdown - refused to clean her teeth (but did a good job on the bathroom door), I couldn't get jammies on, hair dried after bath, bum wiped after poo etc.

It's extremely trying and I don't have the stress of any others (well I have 2 DSS but they are ancient and don't count).

I wish I had a magic solution for you. DD responds well to 100% one-on-one, but also joking around and making things into games ("ooooh can you get dressed before I count to 10). She does respond to 1-2-3 more often than not as I always follow-through - today we had no tv at all because of a 2 hour bedtime refusal last night. She has a tigger game sitting waiting for her to collect 7 stars. This may take some time

I really feel for you, honestly. I think if I had a newborn to contend with at the same time I'd just combust with fury.

emkana · 16/07/2006 20:35

Well, the weekend has had its ups and downs with her, I've tried very hard not to be so negative with her all the time, and partly I've succeded, but sometimes she can be such a misery and so whingy that I just totally lose it.

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