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My Mum smacked my 2 year old - WWYD?

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ThatsNotMyPinot · 07/08/2013 19:43

Bit of background- DP and I have DS, 2.6 and DD 15 months. My Mum lives a few hours drive away, and visits once, maybe twice a month, depending on what we're up to. She is considering moving to be closer to us next year when she retires. Mum appears to love being a GP, always says she looks forward to seeing the DCs.

Mum was always a fairly strict parent with my three siblings and I, in terms of manners, behaviour etc, which I think has stood us in good stead as we've grown up and become (fairly, ahem) responsible adults. We were smacked as children, although it hasn't (until now maybe), had any lasting affect on me. I've never looked back on my childhood and thought anything particularly bad happened, or that my parents abused us because they smacked us, and my Mum even says herself that she rarely did it beyond the age of 5, as the threat of it was enough to make us step in line pretty quickly. As a result, I always thought that when I had children, I would smack them as a last resort if they were exceptionally naughty.

However...

Since having DS and DD, I have smacked DS on the hand or on the bottom if he has pushed my buttons, BUT I have felt ridiculously guilty, and it just hasn't sat well with me and I know that i've done it when i've lost control, which is never a great thing to do. As a result, i've started to make sure that I walk away if I feel i'm losing my temper, despite what i've always been brought up to think by my parents. I've realised that DS is still too young to understand certain things, and distraction techniques tend to work best. Not negotiating (I can't bear it when a parent spend hours reasoning with two year old Hugo, about why the can't do X), but a firm 'NO', removal, and distraction.

I'm not a push over, in fact DP and I are shit-hot with manners (DS says please and thank you really well already) and behaviour, especially out and about, but otherwise I think our DCs are still so tiny, and we have lots of fun with them whilst instilling said basic manners and age appropriate behaviour.

My Mum, however, thinks that these days parents are too soft with their children, and (in her words) lots of children need "a good slap" and are "brats".

She came to stay with us for the night yesterday. DP was working in the evening, and I needed to pop out in the car for half an hour to pick something up, and Mum said she was happy to look after DS and DD. I returned, put the DCs to bed, and sat down with a glass of wine. DS, who usually goes to sleep well, called me upstairs a couple of times, before finally going to sleep. I said to my Mum that he was probably excited because she was here, and Mum said "I doubt it, I gave him a slap on the legs whilst you were out, because he kept playing with the net curtains after i'd asked him not to. He ran over to the other chair wailing and holding his leg". She was laughing a bit as she said this, and my face must have looked a bit blank and shocked, because she quickly said "I'm sure it was just the shock, rather than it hurting".

I just didn't know what to think for the rest of the evening. If I don't feel comfortable smacking our DCs (DP has never smacked DS), i'm not sure I want anyone else to. I guess i'm confused because i've been bought up to think smacking was 'normal', and i'm still very much of the ilk that 'it takes a village to raise a child'. I have no problem with anyone telling off my children if they're naughty, but I'm now questioning my whole belief system. I was so sure I would smack my DCs (pre-children), so i've surprised myself with how I feel now.

I know Mum would think I was wet if I told her not to smack either of our DCs. I'm also uneasy with a few other things she's done the last couple of days, like telling 14 month old DD to "shut it", when she was making a "Ba Ba BAAAAAAA!" noise in a coffee shop today, and then told DS to "play quietly, you're giving me a headache", when he was spinning round in a circle in our living room today. I don't think he was doing anything wrong at all, he was even being very loud. Sad She also is very strict about eating everything on your plate, and I find mealtimes with the kids and her stressy, whereas i'm laid back (deliberately, due to having issues i'm sure caused by how she was with my eating when I was little). The DCs are both amazing eaters, but she cringes at mess made and has told DD she's 'naughty girl' for getting food on the floor.

Reading all this, she sounds horrible Sad, but she's mostly lovely, and i'm sure she'd be devastated if I told her all the above as I know she loves the DCs. She admits herself that she's not a natural parent. I'm just coming to realise that we have VERY different parenting styles. I'm pretty strict, but she's on a whole other level! I'm concerned about her influence on the DCs should she move closer and see them more. I not sure if i'd leave the DCs alone with her in future. My in-laws, on the other hand, are fabulous, and DS and DD adore them. DS wasn't keen to hold my Mum's hand today out and about, and didn't want to go downstairs and see her this morning. If MIL were there, he'd be all over her, and i'd be ignored- that's the contrast that i'm starting to see.

As I said previously, i'm really questioning my whole belief system now. Trouble is, DM thinks that I think the same as her still, but I don't.

WWYD? What do you think? I'm not sure what i'm asking here really. Just needed to spill. I really don't want to fall out with or upset my Mum, but I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm not scared of DM by the way, I just want to be diplomatic if possible.

Yikes, that was LONG!

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babyboomersrock · 08/08/2013 19:05

"I just feel that there really needs to be a bit more respect for our parents generation, a bit more gratitude for the childhoods they gave us and a bit less expecting GPs to provide free childcare on exactly the parents terms"

Nonsense. I'm in my mid-60s, and a grandmother - I do provide child care, but I fail to see why my son should be so grateful for free care that he'd accept anything I might do to his baby. He can relax, as it happens - I never smacked my own, and I wouldn't dream of hurting my grandson or shouting at him. My son and daughter in law have made minor choices I might not have made in bringing up their child, but that's their decision, and I support them.

Also, my children have told me they had happy childhoods (despite a divorce) and we still have lovely happy relationships - but my own childhood was not happy, and I cannot pretend otherwise. I had a moody, critical, shouty mother and I have felt the effects of that all my life.

I refuse to be told I should be grateful for the fact that she chose to have me and then make me feel inadequate and unloved, craving her approval but never knowing how to achieve it.

Needless to say, my children were never left in her care unless someone else was around - I just wouldn't have risked it.

BeesGoBuzzzzzz · 08/08/2013 21:10

I would be hugely angry and would not hold back telling her.

I feel a bit uncomfortable at her comment that she didn't have to smack after age five because you were scared enough of the threat. That is a sad thought.

The comments in your op do not fit with my definition of someone 'lovely'. What is lovely about telling a 14mo to 'shut it!?

ThatsNotMyPinot · 09/08/2013 12:04

Wow, sorry, i've been off MN until today- thank you again for all your feedback and comments!

The more i've been thinking about this, the more I know I definitely don't want to go down the smacking route, and will be telling my Mum so when she next comes down to visit.

It just doesn't make sense to tell DS not to hit or hurt DD, when I then go and smack him myself. In fact, the last few days i've been re-inforcing that no one hurts anyone in our house, and that we are kind to each other, and already there have been fewer incidents when DS has walloped DD (or vice versa!), which has been interesting... we'll see if it continues.

This may sound odd, but when I feel i've been about to lose my rag, or am getting stressed, I pretend i'm being filmed, and it calms me right down. The calmer i've been this week, the calmer DS has been.

I guess i've always been bought up that there's not really an in-between place when it comes to raising children- you either smack and make your children tow the line and then they'll be wonderfully behaved, or you're a wishy-washy parent who has no control and your children run amok and are brattish. I'm starting to realise that there might be another way of dealing with little ones!

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ThatsNotMyPinot · 09/08/2013 12:05

PS babyboomersrock -your words are wise and it's good to hear a gran's point of view

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Eletheomel · 09/08/2013 12:17

Lots of good advice and points raised here. If it were me, I'd just speak to her and tell her the truth - e.g. that you have your own parenting style, that its different to hers (not better just different) and that you've realised your not comfortable with her smacking your son.

Tell her what you would like her to do if your son is acting up (e.g. count to 3, naughty step (hate that myself, but a popular tool) etc, but make it clear that under no circumstances is she allowed to hit him.

Try not to get in to the 'never did me any harm' conversation, this isn't about childrearing philosophies, its about your children and how you want them looked after, and if she doesn't feel comfortable looking after your kids without knowing she can hit them if they don't behave, then you need to think about what you want to do about that.

Your mum may well disagree with your approach and that's fine, the key thing is that she respects its your decision and not hers and that you make the rules regarding your kids.

I was also smacked as a child (rarely - the threat was always enough - my mum was scary!) but I have never and would never smack my own children (always thought I would until I had one, funny how your views change!) and would have stern words with any family member who did so.

good luck!

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