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Has parenting affected your mental health?

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NutsinMay · 26/05/2013 15:13

There seems to be a lot of links about Mental Health affecting your ability to parent but nothing about parenting affecting your mental health(beyond post natal depression).

Yet although there have been times in my life when I've felt low, anxious, possibly more than that, I've never felt as anxious, stressed, neurotic, controlling, irritable, occasionally close to the edge as I have had since having children. I have no desire to have a relationship or go out (beyond doing stuff with the children as they are always much easier when out).

I do work part-time and that provides some relief but I wish weekends were something to look forward to like they used to be pre-children. Now they are the most tiring shifts of the week.

Having one was fine and didn't change me or my life that much (and I had a high needs baby) but having two for me is a whole another level.

I am tired very tired. I've not had an uninterupted night's sleep for about 5 years so I think that might be a major contributor but I find the fighting between siblings, the noise, the whining, the whinging- the demands of "mummy" shrieked in stereo are occasionally just too much to bear. I sobbed in front of them this morning because I just wanted them to leave each other alone. I sometimes fear picking up by daughter from school as I just don't the energy to cope with the afterschool grumpiness/meltdown/rudeness.

I know parenting isn't easy and I'm full of admiration for those who have more than two, do it alone or unsupported or have children with complex needs.

I do hear stories of women locking themselves in the bathroom to escape their kids and I know a lot of women got by on valium in the 70s and laudenum in the 1870s(or earlier) so I know it's not uncommon.

But I'm wondering why there isn't more written about this? Is the stress etc actually doing damage to my physical health? Is it normal? Does anyone else think they are going mad?

Thankfully, they are out with DP this afternoon as I've been on the go since 6.

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curryeater · 19/06/2013 21:28

Hi Abigail, that is very interesting! And rings very true to me.

hi yamsareyammy, I was a bit mean wasn't I. but very annoyed!

Striped, big hugs. you are doing so well.

Anglo, I just skim-read your thread and I think those people don't seem to have read your post properly. They do not seem to realise that you already did not think you did the right thing! I hate it on here when a bunch of people gang up to put the boot into someone who is struggling.

Oddbod, I hope your ds1 is ok, I have no experience of school-going children yet but I can see how that would be hard. You sound like a very loving mother.

I am going to go to bed in a minute to deal with night 2 of the dd2 sleep-training enterprise. She has been very unsettled for weeks, starting with some nasty colds and teething all together, during which we took her into bed with us as path of least resistance. Now she is perfectly well but trading on our incompetence and when she has been coming into bed with us she has been wakeful, playful, and completely destroying me. I honestly believe that a child who is going crazy with fatigue at 6pm because she was playing silly buggers with your bedside lamp between 3am and 6.30 am will benefit from kind, firm, sleep training. so shoot me, I'm doing it. Not bad last night: 5 hours sleep (for me - she had a lot more) and I consider that a result.

I am feeling guilty about moaning so much about dp on this thread. I realise it is all old resentment about the baby times and actually these days he gets a lot more and does a lot more and in many ways actively puts me first. I need to let go and move on. On the other hand, maybe I have trained him with anger and harsh speech? hm. Anyway I am in a good place with him right now and have got a lot out of my system on this thread that I should probably now destroy and forget.

How are you Badvoc? Rollo? Ledkr? Nuts? Clutter? Everyone?

Right. Off to bed. 'night all x

NutsinMay · 19/06/2013 21:31

"Now I have to put on happy smiley mum act when DS1 is around and I feel streched beyone my limits"

Yes that's one of the hardest things about having more than one child. When the baby is napping you have to spend your time making it up to/spending time with the eldest even when you're exhausted. And like you say having to keep it together and keep going!

And I do think they are often grumpy before the next milestone (ie before walking then before talking).

Not long now till you get there. Toddlers seem to get easier from 2(though parenting in general doesn't- there are always new challenges!)

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OddBodd · 19/06/2013 22:29

Thank you again Nuts. Yes I seem to remember my DS1 massively improving just before he turned 2 actually and he suddenly went from this whinging demanding baby, to an articulate (fairly) reasonable 2 year old which was a huge relief as I'd been dreading the 'terrible 2's' but for us, he'd been such hard work that we breezed through that and every other stage and phase since! DS1 really is a joy (albeit still demanding and needing input and energy), he doesn't bring me to tears and grind me down the way DS2 does. That sounds horrible doesn't it? You're not supposed to have a favourite but I still feel DS2 is a work in progress Sad

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MacMac123 · 19/06/2013 22:30

Curry you're reading what mothers do? Brill. I agree it veers without saying it to attachment parenting which gave me food for thought as with DS (now 4) I was very strict Gina and with Dd 7 months I do more attachment, she just does what she wants, and no controlled crying. So I felt a bit guilty!
But overall I thought the sentiment of the book was just great and could be applied to older kids, and really validates/resonates with this thread and just in general so much of what I find myself thinking and feeling. Overall reading it has changed my life for the better (at least for the last week!)

MacMac123 · 19/06/2013 22:43

Curry I love your theoretical rant. Brilliant!

MacMac123 · 19/06/2013 23:04

Anglo I've just read your parenting post. I started reading the responses but can't be bothered. Id have done the same thing. My DS (4 so even younger) can be like this and refuse to join in. If it's because he's feeling shy I can see it on his face and I'm sympathetic, but sometimes it's just him being difficult or grupmy. If the latter I am extremely cross. In my mind it's unacceptable behaviour!
So stop worrying, she needs to know
And sometimes kids do disappoint their parents and hearing this in no uncertain terms is no bad thing.

MacMac123 · 19/06/2013 23:12

Anglo I'm not saying do that every week, but sometimes it's hard not tom lose it, I've been in very similar situation, the main thing is don't beat yourself up about it

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thecatfromjapan · 20/06/2013 07:02

I think this thread is amazing. Very useful. Supportive.

Is anyone else interested in seeing if we can get it moved into mumsnet classics?

Badvoc · 20/06/2013 07:25

Hello,everyone.
Well, I,was,vile,to dh last night.
Just vile.
But I am beyond tired and ATM everything he does or says infuriates me!
Ds2 went to sleep with me and then dh took him into his own bed but he didn't have a good night...night terrors I think.
It's his induction morning at reception this morning,..I wonder whether he is worried about it?
Add in my period which has decided to arrive 4 days late and all in all it's been a rough week.
Anglo....I read your thread.
If its any consolation my ds1 was that child and I was that parent too.
He didn't do a school show until he was 7. We never got to see him in a nativity :(
He refused to do after school stuff.
It saddened me very much.
Howeve, he is now 10 and is into everything...after school activities, residential trip, school end of term show.....you name it.
Please don't beat yourself up.
X

Ledkr · 20/06/2013 08:25

angelo I posted on your thread and also read some if the ridiculous replies.
I often post about my vile in laws and last time was told my amazing dh was abusive as he doesn't react strongly enough.
Yep it's his fault that they trample over what we ask for and ignore our requests.
Take no notice. I told em they were being ridiculous and hid the thread!
This is a safe place to share and there were plans to keep it going as a support thread once its full
Op will have to request it goes to classics but good idea.

Ledkr · 20/06/2013 08:27

badvoc dh is getting it from me too ATM
I really need to rein it in but I'm pre menstrual and hate everything he does. He has four days off now poor bloke.

meso · 20/06/2013 09:15

God - I have just found this thread and am another one virtually crying with relief that it is not just me who feels like I am ballsing it up most of the time!!!

Big hugs to everyone who is really struggling right now - I am in a weird respite patch where both kids are being ok - but we are on holiday, back to reality tomorrow and am anticipating probs with DD when she realises Daddy is going back to work!

Am also another one who is regularly vile to DH, and wouldn't tolerate him treating me like that! We are in therapy for that tho, so taking baby steps in the right direction I hope!

Motherhood really is a massive thing isn't it (stating the obvious I know). Daunting.

Biscuitsareme · 20/06/2013 09:52

This is such a great thread! I feel my experiences are validated by it and I haven't even posted about them. Thank you so much. Only by getting it out in the open will we get any acknowledgment of the hard work and emotional turmoil of motherhood. With hindsight I wish I'd been much less worried about what others thought of me- even the occasional two fingers at judgmental advice would have been better for my sanity. I'm being a 'good enough' mum atm and for me it's the way forward. And I mind my own business wrt my mummy friends- offer empathy but no judgment. It's hard enough as it is.

PoppyAmex · 20/06/2013 11:03

Oddbodd and Nuts I could hug you both.

Like Striped I'm currently pregnant (DD will be 20 months when DC2 comes along) and I'm petrified.

I found your posts incredibly helpful, mainly because I believe no one on this thread would lie spout bland platitudes about how "magical" it is to have 2 under 2. So if you say it's doable, I believe you Smile

The crux of the matter is I don't trust advice on motherhood anymore; I still feel like a victim of this global conspiration and I really resent every single person who glossed over how hard it was going to be.

curry please keep posting, I've come to look forward to your contribution.

Badvoc · 20/06/2013 12:38

I must make an effect to be more pleasant to dh today.
Have managed to go into town and get ds1 a cheap payg phone for when he starts big shcool :)
Picked ds2 up, and we are sat watching Charlie and Lola.
I might try and get him to have a nap this afternoon...he is shattered.
Still feel joyless and stressed.
Keep worrying about the holiday, which is stupid. I can't do anything about the weather!
I hate feeling like this.

SconesForTea · 20/06/2013 13:02

Hi, can I join in? I am halfway through reading this amazing thread and would really like to join the support thread. Reading this has been a revelation, I am not the only one!! My RL friends bitch about their partners not doing enough, or the day-to-day humdrum, but none of them seem to HATE IT like I do sometimes. And none of them seem to want to scream and run away (or they don't admit it). And I doubt that any of them have the crushing guilt that they are ruining their DCs' lives by not loving them enough, or doing enough for them (although perhaps they do as maternal guilt seems to be pretty universal).

So much resonates with me, I feel like I am drowing in a sea of domestic minutiae, I feel I have lost myself, I am tired, so tired, so very very tired. I feel I am operating at capacity and the tank is empty. I shouted at DH that I wish he hadn't got me a present for Mothers Day, as it meant I had to get him one for Fathers Day, and I didn't have the resources, financial or otherwise, to deal with it. I can't THINK about anything else. Whenever I have free time (in the evenings) I do mindless activities instead of anything productive. I can't imagine having the energy for a hobby.

My DDs are 3.4 and 1.9 and I have been clinging to the hope that it will get better....

Wishihadabs · 20/06/2013 13:17

Hello, was thinking of this thread this morning. I am away for work this weekend and felt compelled to buy ready made pizzas, stuffed pasta and other "easy food" for DH to give the dcs. I job share at work and as was said upthread if a jobshare partner expected that degree of support I would not be happy. Food for thought indeed.

babyhammock · 20/06/2013 14:02

Curryeater just have to say, I've so enjoyed reading your posts on this thread :)

MollyDoublyBarrely · 20/06/2013 15:27

Thank you to Nuts for informing me of this thread.

A bit of a back story is that i am on Sertraline, 150mg a day, and i have been referred to the CMHT and diagnosed with Bipolar disorder for which i should begin new medication if my psychiatrist ever pulls his finger out soon.

A couple of you have seen my other mummy breakdown thread (thank you again for your advice) and know that i have had a very, very crap time recently with DS.

My poor DH (like some of yours) is also on the receiving end of my caustic attitude right now

Ledkr · 20/06/2013 17:02

I can barely speak to my dh today for no other reason than he has A DAY OFF. What the fuck does he want eh?
Hanging about painting cupboards and helping with kids and housework! Why doesn't he fuck off and leave me to my martyrdom. The bastard.
Pmt reaching peak time so I'm trying to keep quiet.

Badvoc · 20/06/2013 17:44

Ledkr.
I am trying to be nice.
But, god he makes it hard!
He has just told me that his boss is away to Japan tomorrow with work.
Why do I need to know this?
This is to "prepare" me that next week he will have his head in his laptop every evening/night and be taking texts/phone calls at stupid o clock.

Ds2 didn't have a nap.
Ds1 is hit and bothered and needs a shower.
Dishwasher needs emptying.
Dishes need doing.
Washing needs sorting.
Sigh.
Might just run away.
Oh....I can't. My sis rang me earlier and I am now doing her a favour at 11am tomorrow. I am decorating tables for someone's wedding reception...

KingRollo · 20/06/2013 19:15

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Badvoc · 20/06/2013 19:21

Oh king rollo....:(
I feel like that some days.
In fact some days it's like having 3 kids :(
Since 3pm I have;
sorted kids out after school.
They had friends over.
I did dinner prep.
Dh came home.
I made dinner.
We ate dinner.
I tidied kitchen and did dishes.
Dh has been either eating/on the phone to work/in the other room with ds2 playing on the ps3.
So I wouldn't exactly miss him either :(

OddBodd · 20/06/2013 19:30

Arrgh Kingrollo, I feel your pain, I really do.

I don't know where to begin today. I don't even have the words left in me to talk about it. Sad

I just wanted to check in and read all your posts. I'll be back tomorrow hopefully in a better mood.

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