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Has parenting affected your mental health?

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NutsinMay · 26/05/2013 15:13

There seems to be a lot of links about Mental Health affecting your ability to parent but nothing about parenting affecting your mental health(beyond post natal depression).

Yet although there have been times in my life when I've felt low, anxious, possibly more than that, I've never felt as anxious, stressed, neurotic, controlling, irritable, occasionally close to the edge as I have had since having children. I have no desire to have a relationship or go out (beyond doing stuff with the children as they are always much easier when out).

I do work part-time and that provides some relief but I wish weekends were something to look forward to like they used to be pre-children. Now they are the most tiring shifts of the week.

Having one was fine and didn't change me or my life that much (and I had a high needs baby) but having two for me is a whole another level.

I am tired very tired. I've not had an uninterupted night's sleep for about 5 years so I think that might be a major contributor but I find the fighting between siblings, the noise, the whining, the whinging- the demands of "mummy" shrieked in stereo are occasionally just too much to bear. I sobbed in front of them this morning because I just wanted them to leave each other alone. I sometimes fear picking up by daughter from school as I just don't the energy to cope with the afterschool grumpiness/meltdown/rudeness.

I know parenting isn't easy and I'm full of admiration for those who have more than two, do it alone or unsupported or have children with complex needs.

I do hear stories of women locking themselves in the bathroom to escape their kids and I know a lot of women got by on valium in the 70s and laudenum in the 1870s(or earlier) so I know it's not uncommon.

But I'm wondering why there isn't more written about this? Is the stress etc actually doing damage to my physical health? Is it normal? Does anyone else think they are going mad?

Thankfully, they are out with DP this afternoon as I've been on the go since 6.

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Salbertina · 01/06/2013 09:45

Sorry, what was the link again? Not heard of DS,rather but intrigued!

IrnBruTheNoo · 01/06/2013 11:02

"I am so sick of not having peace and quiet in the evenings."

I am exactly the same. My two are not settling until after 8pm most nights, and they're both up at 6.30am every morning. I don't know how much longer I can go on like this before I crack.

IrnBruTheNoo · 01/06/2013 11:04

My only coping strategy when DH is night shift is to go to bed myself until I know they are both asleep. By that time though, I'm too knackered to read or do much else apart from veg in front of TV...

Every day is like Ground Hog Day.

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Lioninthesun · 01/06/2013 12:10

I have d&v today.
I am so tired and have so much to do - we are out of bread, she has a prescription I need to get and I am meant to be sorting out a rail card before next week and the house is a tip.
DD is thankfully being really good, but I just want to go back to bed Sad Worst bit is knowing she will probably have it tomorrow too.

ohcluttergotme · 01/06/2013 16:15

Saw this on facebook and felt it matched up what a lot of us Mums have been feeling and also shows it's not just us.

Steve Wiens: To Parents of Small Children: Let Me Be the One Who Says It Out Loud

I am in a season of my life right now where I feel bone-tired almost all of the time. Ragged, how-am-I-going-to-make-it-to-the-end-of-the-day, eyes burning exhausted.

I have three boys ages 5 and under. I'm not complaining about that. Well, maybe I am a little bit. But I know that there are people who would give anything for a house full of laughter and chaos. I was that person for years and years; the pain of infertility is stabbing and throbbing and constant. I remember allowing hope to rise and then seeing it crash all around me, month after month, for seven years. I am working on another post about infertility that will come at a later date.

But right now, in my actual life, I have three boys ages 5 and under. There are many moments where they are utterly delightful, like last week, when Isaac told my sister-in-law that, "My daddy has hair all over." Or when Elijah put a green washcloth over his chin and cheeks, and proudly declared, "Daddy! I have a beard just like you!" Or when Ben sneaks downstairs in the morning before the other boys do, smiles at me, and says, "Daddy and Ben time."

But there are also many moments when I have no idea how I'm going to make it until their bedtime. The constant demands, the needs and the fighting are fingernails across the chalkboard every single day.

One of my children is for sure going to be the next Steve Jobs. I now have immense empathy for his parents. He has a precise vision of what he wants exactly that way and no other way. Sometimes, it's the way his plate needs to be centered exactly to his chair, or how his socks go on, or exactly how the picture of the pink dolphin needs to look with brave eyes, not sad eyes, daddy! He is a laser beam, and he is not satisfied until it's exactly right.

I have to confess that sometimes, the sound of his screaming drives me to hide in the pantry. And I will neither confirm nor deny that while in there, I compulsively eat chips and/or dark chocolate.

There are people who say this to me:

"You should enjoy every moment now! They grow up so fast!"

I usually smile and give some sort of guffaw, but inside, I secretly want to hold them under water. Just for a minute or so. Just until they panic a little.

If you have friends with small children especially if your children are now teenagers or if they're grown please vow to me right now that you will never say this to them. Not because it's not true, but because it really, really doesn't help.

We know it's true that they grow up too fast. But feeling like I have to enjoy every moment doesn't feel like a gift, it feels like one more thing that is impossible to do, and right now, that list is way too long. Not every moment is enjoyable as a parent; it wasn't for you, and it isn't for me. You just have obviously forgotten. I can forgive you for that. But if you tell me to enjoy every moment one more time, I will need to break up with you.

If you are a parent of small children, you know that there are moments of spectacular delight, and you can't believe you get to be around these little people. But let me be the one who says the following things out loud:

You are not a terrible parent if you can't figure out a way for your children to eat as healthy as your friend's children do. She's obviously using a bizarre and probably illegal form of hypnotism.

You are not a terrible parent if you yell at your kids sometimes. You have little dictators living in your house. If someone else talked to you like that, they'd be put in prison.

You are not a terrible parent if you can't figure out how to calmly give them appropriate consequences in real time for every single act of terrorism that they so creatively devise.

You are not a terrible parent if you'd rather be at work.

You are not a terrible parent if you just can't wait for them to go to bed.

You are not a terrible parent if the sound of their voices sometimes makes you want to drink and never stop.

You're not a terrible parent.

You're an actual parent with limits. You cannot do it all. We all need to admit that one of the casualties specific to our information saturated culture is that we have sky-scraper standards for parenting, where we feel like we're failing horribly if we feed our children chicken nuggets and we let them watch TV in the morning.

One of the reasons we are so exhausted is that we are oversaturated with information about the kind of parents we should be.

So, maybe it's time to stop reading the blogs that tell you how to raise the next president who knows how to read when she's 3 and who cooks, not only eats, her vegetables. Maybe it's time to embrace being the kind of parent who says sorry when you yell. Who models what it's like to take time for yourself. Who asks God to help you to be a better version of the person that you actually are, not for more strength to be an ideal parent.

So, the next time you see your friends with small children with that foggy and desperate look in their eyes, order them a pizza and send it to their house that night. Volunteer to take their kids for a few hours so they can be alone in their own house and have sex when they're not so tired, for heaven's sake. Put your hand on their shoulder, look them in the eyes, and tell them that they're doing a good job. Just don't freak out if they start weeping uncontrollably. Most of the time, we feel like we're botching the whole deal and our kids will turn into horrible criminals who hate us and will never want to be around us when they're older.

You're bone-tired. I'm not sure when it's going to get better. Today might be a good day or it might be the day that you lost it in a way that surprised even yourself.

Breathe in. Breathe out.

You're not alone.

Salbertina · 01/06/2013 16:20

Oh yes, wonderfully and sadly accurate must mail to MIL .

SauceForTheGander · 01/06/2013 19:03

I love that OhClutter. Especially the drink and never stop.

MorrisZapp · 01/06/2013 19:33

I love the holding under water bit :)

Hell yeah.

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Salbertina · 01/06/2013 20:19

Just read that. Ok. Yep, help needed.

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ohcluttergotme · 01/06/2013 21:07

This was a fathers blog about his experiences and feelings about being the father of 3 small boys under 5. Where he writes that he wants to "hold them under water, just a little" is to all the people that say to him "enjoy every minute of your boys being young, these years go by so fast"
My interpretation of him wanting to drown these folk (hypothetically) is that his day from 6am to 7pm drag let alone years fleeting by.
It was Not, any parent, no matter how tired or stressed thinking this of their child Hmm

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ohcluttergotme · 01/06/2013 21:28

Maybe the father who wrote the blog does need help? I only have one small boy under 5, I can not imagine having 3 Hmm

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IrnBruTheNoo · 01/06/2013 21:40

I've got two small boys, and yes it's hard work. There's a lot of competitiveness. And it goes on from morning until night! Can be very stressful being referee.

My interpretation of what ohcluttergotme posted was that the father felt like holding another adult under water if they came out with 'enjoy every moment of them, they grow so fast' type comments. Not literally, but in a hypothetical sense. No need for over reactions shitsinger.

CrabbyBigBottom · 01/06/2013 21:41

Brilliant cut & paste, Clutter, btw. Wink

IrnBruTheNoo · 01/06/2013 21:42

A lot of us are seeking help by letting off steam on a discussion forum where it's safe to just offload the day's events if it's all been getting too much. It's a safe place to vent, surely? Better than keeping it all to yourself which just makes the situation worse.

Salbertina · 01/06/2013 21:44

Actually on reflection am with Ohclutter's interpretation and think it was worth cutting & pasting!

Let's not derail such a supportive, insightful thread.

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meglet · 01/06/2013 22:02

ohclutter that blog is so funny Smile.

I've survived another day. We've been to London, I didn't lose either of them, DS was beautifully behaved and DD wasn't Angry. She was running riot on the train and I think the carriage was torn between adults giggling at her and the rest pulling cats bum mouths. She's lovely but draining Sad.

NiceCupOfTeaAndASitDown · 01/06/2013 22:36

don't have time to read all the posts right now because I have an opportunity to sleep Grin

but please..OP could you ask to have this thread moved to parenting or mental health? i can relate to so much that is written here and it's helping to know I'm not alone. would be great to be able to keep re-reading without it disappearing at some point Wink

Flosshilde · 01/06/2013 22:36

I've been reading this thread since the beginning and I'd just like to thank everyone for articulating how I feel. I can't articulate at all at the moment, my brain feels like it is stuffed with cotton wool; a combination of bfing hormones, sleep deprivation and boredom, I suspect.

DS1 (3yo) went to his GPs for tea and a sleepover last night and I felt lighter than I had for weeks. I got a shit load of washing and ironing done while the baby slept, me and DH went out for a meal with the baby and I got a bit pissed. It was amazing. I don't want to have to get my DS out of the house to feel like that though. Sad

DH makes me feel like an inadequate parent every day. He has a natural ability. I too think I will make a better parent to teenagers.

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