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Ba in social work or Ma in soical work

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purple15 · 16/06/2012 09:31

I have currently got a foundation degree in Early Years, and I am doing it with the Open University, under their transitional fees I can top this up to an honours degree for a small cost.
My question is should I draw a line under it now and go to college to do the Ba in Social Work, or get the BA in Early Years then the MA in Social work?

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scarlettsmummy2 · 16/06/2012 18:19

Have you got a place on the social work degree? Many courses require you to do an interview. I would probably do the social work degree as that would give you more options without doing the masters.

purple15 · 16/06/2012 18:32

I haven't looked into it yet. If i were to carry on with this degree its another fifteen months or just look into gettin the ba in social work.

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scarlettsmummy2 · 16/06/2012 18:35

If it is only fifteen months you might as well finish it! Could you get it completed for October 2013? If so you could go straight onto the social work MA

purple15 · 16/06/2012 18:44

Its two nine month courses,so it would be 2014, then do the masters for two years. Or finish this foundation degree and start the full ba in social work ?

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feistymama · 26/06/2012 21:30

Most unis, maybe even all, will only accept you on the MA course if you have previous social work experience as well as a BA degree, that is certainly the case where I'm studying. I'd go for the BA if you really want to be a social worker.

wisecamel · 28/06/2012 19:20

Agree with feistymama - you are very likely to need a fair bit of social work type experience as well as your BA to do the masters. If you don't yet have this but want to be a social worker it may be best to apply to do the BA after your foundation degree. You'll be just as qualified to be a social worker at the end and it's a bit gentler than the MA as you've got an extra year to prepare for and complete the 200 days of practice placement.

IME, the BA is tough enough if you have family/other commitments - practical issues such as the commute to the placement and needing childcare both before and after school whilst not earning anything have all been very stressful for us.

OTOH, if you have no other commitments and have the experience behind you already, I'd go for the MA - just because it's nice to have (but easier to fail if life gets in the way).

Good luck with whatever you choose - it's a fascinating subject!

purple15 · 29/06/2012 21:08

Wisecamel, have you done the BA? I was wondering how many assisgnments in say a term, or year ? Dont know whether I will manage them on top of being out of the house all day, if they are quite spread out then I will.

A friend of mine has recently qualified as a teacher, and during the years studying she did not watch the TV at all. She lived and breathed her study. I feel really keen, but I feel I need to live to.

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slipperandpjsmum · 01/07/2012 19:31

I did the BA and watched plenty of tv! Having said that you do need to understand you will make sacrifices. I didn't go out at weekends with my dc/dh. I had a friend who was undertaking a proff qualification at the time and in the end she dropped out because she was fed up with the loss of family time.

The assignment were overwhelming but I had been out of education for over 20 years and finished work on the Fri and started uni on the Monday so everything was overwhelming, even working out how to use the library!

My placements were ok as I was lucky to have practice teachers that understood I had family commitments (4 ds one of whom was a baby). All my childcare was paid for, although it was added onto my student loan but it eased the pressure at the time.

It is pressured but then being a sw is very pressured so its good to understand how you function under pressure and a good practice educator will help you to reflect on this with you and you can take what you learn forward into practice.

purple15 · 01/07/2012 19:49

Can I ask what your placements were ? Were they anything like what you are doing now ? What are you doing now ? What is a typical day, the hours ? Gosh, having 4ds that must of been challanging, obviously you do manage the job with children. Are you glad you did it? Is the stress and time management do-able ? Sorry for all the questions.

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slipperandpjsmum · 04/07/2012 19:58

My placements were in a unit for homeless people and a LA older peoples team, so nothing like I do now which is a children's social worker.

Typical day drop the kids off at school at 8.30 then into work get there around 9.30. We have caseloads of around 35 children and do everything from the initial referral, child in need, child protection, court work, looked after children, and adoption to a point. Every third week we are on duty and receive around 70 - 80 referrals coming in. On that week you stay until the work is done which can be 10pm although thats rare is more 7 - 8ish but you get the time back. It works well for me as I can add that on to my hols.

The stress levels are high. Removing children is the most awful thing to do or to tell a parent that is the plan an people can be very angry but you get used to that part.

It was def worth it. I was a support worker for years before and had always dreamed of being a sw. I could never have earned what I do now (although it not loads for what we do). Its amazing what you can achieve if you really want something. People will always tell you that you can't do it but you can if you really want it.

I love being a social worker but its not a job its much more than that it can consume you in both good and bad ways. A good team is essential and if you need to cry, which everyone on my team has done you have a friend there to make you a cup of tea, give you a tissue and listen to you.

If you really want it go for it - don't look back at your life and think about what could have been - look back and think I gave it a go!!

purple15 · 05/07/2012 10:46

Thanks for that slipper. It all sounds facinating ! The only thing I am not sure about is the crying. That doesnt sound good.

I really feel it is something I want to do. Like you said, I should give it a go.
Thanks.

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slipperandpjsmum · 05/07/2012 16:47

When you stop feeling its time to give up social work.

Let us know how you get on Lots of luck

NotANaturalGeordie · 16/07/2012 14:34

I'm so glad I found this thread - I start the MA Social Work in January and have been having trouble with funding. Your post Slipper has inspired me to keep trying. There must be a way...

purple15 · 16/07/2012 20:04

are you working in social work ? what is your original degree in ? what was the interview like ?

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NotANaturalGeordie · 16/07/2012 21:17

I'm currently working at McDonalds! My original degree was a 2:1 in Sociology with Social Policy, and the job interview was very nerve wracking (?) but the two interviewers were lovely. They said they would let me know in a few weeks but emailed me the following day to offer the place.

I've previously worked in student housing for 8 yrs but had to leave when DD2 was sick.

purple15 · 17/07/2012 08:21

So pleased for you that you passed the interview and are starting. January seems a funny time, I would of thought it would be September.
What is happening with the funding? Are your fees going to be paid? And then you get student Finance to live on ? Dont fancy being saddled with a load of debt.
I am sure your background will be very helpful once the course kicks in.
I still dont know whether to complete this degree (top it up from a foundation to a Ba Early Years ) the cost would be £1400 then do the masters or just draw a line under it and start the Ba social work. What do you think?

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NotANaturalGeordie · 17/07/2012 09:52

Well once you're on an NHS approved Social Work course (BA/MA) then you apply to the NHS Bursaries - they pay the fees and give you a bursary of about £3000. Then you can apply for a maintenance grant, childcare allowance, Disability, and so on (for MA). Personally I have been turned down for childcare allowance and I am considering what to do next.

In your place I think I would finish the current degree, as if you only have a year to go starting a 3yr course or finishining then doing a 2yr course makes no difference in time. Also, quitting one to start another may not 'look' good? Plus having a masters is a little bit of kudos in a competitive job market?

My course runs Jan 2013 to Dec 2014 - I think this helps with placements and employment as you are on the job market at a different time to everyone else.

purple15 · 17/07/2012 10:16

Right so it sounds like you wont be saddled with a huge ammount of debt. Sorry about the childcare allowance.

Bet you are looking forward to starting.

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NotANaturalGeordie · 17/07/2012 13:09

Unfortunately, without childcare funding I don't think I can do the course. I might try to defer for a year.

Good luck with whatever you choose to to Smile

Fanon · 19/07/2012 09:11

The NHS bursary is currently under review. One of the options being that it may be stopped completely! Whatever they decide will come into effect in sept 2013. So it might make doing the masters very expensive.

purple15 · 19/07/2012 09:21

gosh, trust all this to happen when Im thinking of doing it. First the massive increase in fees and maybe the axing of the NHS bursary. If its going to be to expensive maybe I will have no choice but to have a rethink.

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NotANaturalGeordie · 19/07/2012 10:48

Thank you Fanon, I didn't know that. I guess I won't be deferring then Smile.

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