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TraditionalSemi · 08/07/2011 21:36

I'm a namechanger, and have changed some identifying details but the gist of it remains the same.

Smile

My 7 year old neice has started doing sleepovers at her best friend's house, probably 2 to 3 a month.

The family are lovely and well known to me and my family, for over 8 years.

I was speaking to the mom last week and she mentioned how comfortable Maisie (say) is at her house.

To the extent that Maisie and Lola (the best friend) are often found in bed with Lola's mummy and daddy in the night.

The parents sleeep naked.

I was a bit taken aback by this and I am now worried that my reaction is misplaced.

How would you feel?

(Please note, I do not feel that Maisie is in any danger at all, but am surprised at the openness of this family)

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onepieceofcremeegg · 08/07/2011 22:31

If you are really questioning if this is ok, why not ring the NSPCC anonymously and ask them their advice?
Whatever the rights and wrongs (and I feel it is wrong) it could all be misunderstood and real harm caused.

Let's say Maisie and/or Lola tell one of their teachers. Let's say Maisie says that Lola's daddy was pressed up against her, or she saw Lola's mummy's bum or something else. All seemingly innocent but the teacher wouldn't know that. So then social services get involved.

I truly don't know anyone in real life who would be questioning this, I truly don't. Everyone I know would say it is inappropriate. I think you are being naive.

onepieceofcremeegg · 08/07/2011 22:32

muminthecity that scenario is different imo. Younger children, both mothers fully aware of what goes on (and both wearing pjs).

AgentZigzag · 08/07/2011 22:36

When she was about 7ish my DD1 stopped over at a friends house, and she told me she went into the bathroom in the morning (no locked door or anything) and the mum and her friend were in the buff having a wash.

The mum didn't bat an eyelid (no 'oh, we won't be a min if you want to wait outside the bathroom') DD1 thought that's what she should be doing and took her clothes off to have a wash too (I'm a half shocked half laughing at the scenario and what must have been going on in DD1s head, bless her Grin).

I'm not a prude in any sense of the word, but it just really didn't sit right with me.

There's nowt wrong with a naked body, but you can't ignore the social boundaries around what you do in your own home and the difference when you've got guests round.

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sweetness86 · 08/07/2011 22:37

Not appropriate IMO Eeeeekkkk bit odd sorry

HelloKlitty · 08/07/2011 22:45

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heleninahandcart · 08/07/2011 22:47

[hgrin] at AgentZigzag tale. Mixed feelings on this one, nothing wrong with naked bodies etc but a bit eww to be naked in bed with 7 yo, even your own. Do you think its possible she mentioned it 'in passing' because something (probably innocent) happened and she doesn't want it misconstrued so she is saying something first?

AgentZigzag · 08/07/2011 22:48

Gone to have a dump Klitty?

skybluepearl · 08/07/2011 22:49

not appropriate. the 2 girls being in bed together sound like a normal sleep over but getting in with naked parents seems odd.

LRDTheFeministNutcase · 08/07/2011 22:49

Hello, she was here a few minutes ago and said her wifi was posting up - her last post was only 20 minutes ago!

HelloKlitty · 08/07/2011 22:50

Hmm. It's always "namechangers" who post threads like this.

skybluepearl · 08/07/2011 22:51

yes i think i'd maybe joke and say 'guess what lola's mum said, that you 2 got into bed with her and hubby' and just see what she has to say.

AgentZigzag · 08/07/2011 22:54

I would say it was mentioned because, in my case, I talked to DH and my mum about it trying to get some perspective on whether it was a weird thing to happen.

The mum also fucked off to the petrol station to get some milk leaving DD and her friend, who was only 5/6, alone in the house.

In talking to someone about it I was trying to guage whether the bathroom thing was worse than the mum taking the decision as to when my DD was ready to be left on her own on my behalf.

I decided it was her leaving them that fucked me off the most.

AgentZigzag · 08/07/2011 22:56

But posters shouldn't be over sharing any information they're not comfortable with Klitty.

I'm sure some fuckwits jack off to the MIL threads

Who's to say what some freaks get off on.

CarnivalBizarre · 08/07/2011 22:57

hellokitty I don't think its unusual to namechange with a topic as sensitive as this - I would have namechanged too if I wanted to discuss such a subject

CarnivalBizarre · 08/07/2011 22:59

hello klitty even Grin

Gooseberrybushes · 08/07/2011 23:04

I don't think that's normal and I wouldn't find it acceptable.

RitaMorgan · 08/07/2011 23:05

How did this conversation come about? The mum said "Oh we always sleep naked and when Maisie sleeps over she gets into bed with us"?

Senatrice · 08/07/2011 23:07

HelloKitty, the OP has already said she is having connectivity issues. Please don't cast aspersions onto someone who might be name changing for obvious reasons.

OP. I completely agree with you and other posters above. I just don't see why they are allowing them both to sleep in bed with them, whilst they are naked.

And if they are happy for them to get into their bed, knowing it's probably a regular occurrence, and they aren't stopping them from doing so, why don't they put some pyjamas on/long t shirt etc?

It does just seem a bit odd, to be honest. I would have the same 'concerns'

HelloKlitty · 08/07/2011 23:13

Rita xactly....it's not something someone would just mention!

Senatrice I can cast aspertions if I like. Epecially when the OP just beggars off...connectivity problems my arse.

Senatrice · 08/07/2011 23:19

Maybe the OP really did have WiFi problems. Or has DC that have woekn up and need resettling. Or has now posted and decided to go and do something else. FFS. Is it now a MN red flag marker to trolling if an OP doesn't come back to a thread within 17 mins of posting helloKitty?

Where was that decided? And why wasn't every poster on MN told about it?

HelloKlitty · 08/07/2011 23:24

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LRDTheFeministNutcase · 08/07/2011 23:27

If you are really concerned Hello I think it'd be better to report the poster or at least stop bumping the thread into active convos.

youarekidding · 08/07/2011 23:29

My friends DD's have slept in bed with me/ me with them and same with my DS and her/ in in with DS. There were clothes though. Grin

Mainly its been when we have babysat each others and they've woken/ when we were camping and the dc's woke and it was so cold the 5 of us shared double airbed. Thay are only 6 and 7 yo atm.

I think them waking and climbing into bed is OK, I would think PJ's when theres visitors would be preferrable. Think I'd be a little wierded out by my child ging for a sleepover and going to bed to co-sleep with the parents iyswim.

TraditionalSemi · 08/07/2011 23:29

HelloKlitty.

I am a namechanger as, if by any chance, Lola's mummy is on MN (which I doubt and hope not, as obviously she will know that I am garnering the opinions of strangers following a conversation of ours) she will not be able to associate my normal posting name with this.

Is it possible you can suspend your cynicalism for a moment to believe this?

She told me these details in a kind of aren't we cool parents sort of way.

I must say I have been on MN a long time now and feel very hurt by these accusations - I don't understand the benefit to anyone starting such a thread like this. It's nit particularly incendiary, it's not sensational, it's just me trying to rationalise my thoughts. Thank you to everyone who saw the thread in its true light, you have helped my thinking process.

I am now off to compose myself and to consider whether I want to remain part of a forum where such snide and unnecessarily suspicious behaviour is displayed.

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youarekidding · 08/07/2011 23:30

Well if shes talk talk she may have connectivity issues - or is that just me for the past 5 nights when trying to MN