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Need help with a very sensitive complaint against a massive multinational!

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MrsRickman · 16/07/2010 17:58

Ok, here goes.
Coca Cola are running a promo via their Dr Pepper brand just now on facebook. It is called 'status takeover' and involves the application putting an embarrassing or funny status on your FB page.
My 14 yo dd participated and I was HORRIFIED to log into FB and see that her status read - 'I watched 2 girls one cup and felt hungry afterwards'. For anyone who doesn't know what this means, please stay ignorant, for those who do, you can imagine how I felt. This was compounded later on when a quick search through dds internet history revealed she had tried to find out what it was for herself. Thankfully, our ISP has a wonderful child filter!!
So, after various emails and phonecalls to CocaCola marketing I have been offered (quite offensively) as way of compensation, a night in a hotel and theatre tickets for the West End. Fat lot of use to me, we live in Glasgow.
So, how do I proceed? ASA? I am absolutely fizzing with rage and disgust, and want a full apology and explanation. CocaCola are saying they use outside marketing teams for different brands and it's outside their jurisdiction. Help!?

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tabouleh · 17/07/2010 16:49

I have sent an email to the address given on Tanya Byron's website.

Due to her work on internet safety, I'm sure she will be interested (and saddened).

No idea if it will get through/go to her etc but thought it was worth a try.

fanjolina · 17/07/2010 17:01

I would hold Facebook equally accountable. They vet all promotions run on their site in advance - see here

Slubberdegullion · 17/07/2010 17:08

Adding my support for you MrsR.

Disgraceful that a 14yo should have been exposed to this.

The 'compensation' of a trip to the West End is so laughably inept I hardly no what to say. Ahh yes thank you so much CC for exposing my daughter to this but never mind eh, I've always wanted to see Les Mis.

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Polgara2 · 17/07/2010 17:13

OMG MrsR that is appalling. Good luck with this. I have a 13 yr old dd and the thought of her seeing this just makes me want to cry quite frankly!

twoistwiceasfun · 17/07/2010 17:13

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bibbitybobbityhat · 17/07/2010 20:01

Just wondering if there has been any more progress on your campaign MrsR?

ISNT · 17/07/2010 20:21

Also pretty at what itsallgoingtobefine has posted.

I mean that's not in the same league byu a long chalk, but still, references to wanking are not on for something aimed at young teens either? A competition in nuts or zoo or something, maybe, but not for children.

This campaign is just bizarrely ill judged. I think Len is right and the campaign has been designed by some young men who have put in what they find funny and forgotten who this is being aimed at.

Just

StripeyMoon · 17/07/2010 20:26

Marking spot to see progress.

ljgibbs · 17/07/2010 20:35

OMG MrsR, good on you for taking this further.

NetworkGuy · 17/07/2010 21:18

I think IWF work 7 days a week, whereas the agency staff and promotions/ management at Coca Cola are probably watching the Gold or something...

Strike while the iron's hot - I'd love to see Coca Cola | Dr Pepper highlighted as the reason for blocking FaceBook from everyone in the UK, even if it's only for 24 hours !

NetworkGuy · 17/07/2010 21:19

Oh dear... watching the Golf (!)

mtlb · 17/07/2010 21:47

MrsRickman - please email me re: this story for a U.S. ad blog.

mtlb · 17/07/2010 21:54

(Sorry or the wrong code. Trying again.)

MrsRickman - please email me re: this story for a U.S. ad blog.

NetworkGuy · 17/07/2010 22:06

Might be worth giving a link to that blog for completeness, so MrsR can have a look and decide if she wants to provide any info. It would be courteous since you're asking for her to e-mail.

PixieOnaLeaf · 17/07/2010 22:25

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MrsRickman · 17/07/2010 22:25

Ok, thanks everyone for keeping the topic going.
I've fired off a few more emails today - CEOP, Facebook, the creators of the app (as well as reporting the app over 12 hours ago, needless to say it's still on the go) and Coca Cola Enterprises.
No replies from anyone, which I expected with it being Saturday.
Trying to calm myself down and stay focused for the onslaught of phone calls I plan to make on Monday if I've still had no replies.
Thank you to everyone on this thread who has also taken the initiative to report this app or email the authorities.

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MrsRickman · 17/07/2010 22:56

Would anyone be willing to go through the t&cs on the Facebook app and give me a second opinion?
I may be wrong, but it looks as if they are saying that to be in with a chance of winning the £1000 prize you need to keep your profile public. Surely this is also in contravention to the safety of minors on the internet?
I'm almost cross eyed with all the reading of small print I've done today.

look at point 7

if you scroll down it also gives you all the possible updates, the offending one is not there.
Thanks.

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theyoungvisiter · 17/07/2010 23:01

MrsRickman - your link took me to a screen allowing DrPepper to install the application on my facebook account.

I assume that's not what you were intending?! I can't see how to access the T&Cs without installing the application.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 17/07/2010 23:05

Just another voice of support. We need to be able to give our teenagers some space and freedom on the net and how can we do that safely when even 'trusted' brands do this sort of thing.

We need MrsBaldwin back - she was so fab on the last big MB complaint on advertising!

Good on you MrsR.

EthelredOnAGoodDay · 17/07/2010 23:11

I just wanted to add my support to the OP. I am fairly broadminded, but at what point did that sort of disgusting 'suggestion' in public become acceptable to anyone, let alone a teenage girl?? This is BAD and coca cola should be very ashamed-this does not sit well with all their wholesome, father christmas adverts does it?

Frankly i am astounded.

MrsRickman · 17/07/2010 23:14

Yeah, I had to add the app so I could get a screengrab of the t&cs and potential updates before they magically changed or disappeared.
I've removed the application from my page now. Obviously I wouldn't want anyone to do anything they were uncomfortable with.

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mtlb · 17/07/2010 23:49

@NetworkGuy - No problem. Here it is.

(We?ve since discussed via email.)

strandedatsea · 18/07/2010 01:31

MrsR - just adding my support to what you are doing. I have daughters and although they are too young for facebook yet, I would be horrified if they saw this status and decided to try googling it....

And agree with whoever mentioned copying in Private Eye, especially if you don't get anywhere with Coca Cola et al.

AisieSusie · 18/07/2010 02:40

Horrified reading this! Makes me sad that people would do something like this, and not see how inappropriate it is - Dr Pepper is clearly aimed at young people/ teenagers so the app will attract tweens and teens, so in my view, ethically, it doesn't really matter whether there were age limitations attached to the app or facebook - the agency would have designed this app for a young target, & know the demographics they were likely to reach.

I work in a related industry and suggest you pursue the matter strongly, the offer of theatre tickets is disgraceful and will be a brand team hoping against hope that the issue will go away. Rest assured that as soon as the marketeer heard the problem, they will know this is a media disaster just waiting to break, and will be scrambling for their job.

Don't be dismissed and don't go away, this is a huge error of judgement on the brands part, as well as the agencies. The brand is culpable for anything done in their name, and they know it, so don't listen to them telling you otherwise! Its actually this that makes me see red, as trying to shift responsibility away from themselves makes them look doubly culpable in my opinion.

I can't actually understand how this could have happened, as even if one idiot in the agency thought this was a suitable phrase, there would have been many many other people all agreeing and overseeing the level of humour - surely someone would have noticed this? Its the kind of thing people have long dull meetings about, debating fir hours exactly how to describe the type of humour... is edgy the right word, how risky is risky etc...

And I find it incredible that no one from coke read the copy... however, thats a bit of an aside, as it really doesn't matter whether anyone from coke read through all the copy or not, they had the responsibility for approving it and letting it go out in their name. They will have signed a contract that allows the agency to put this campaign out, so therefore are liable although may want to sack their agency/ seek legal action because of it.

my final bit of rant: how could anyone in their right minds think a reference to two women and one cup was in the slightest bit suitable? I had the misfortune to see it last year, and felt nausious and sickened, especially as it was shown to me by a teenager [son of a friend of a friend, explaining a dodgy joke he'd made, I was holding back tears that he thought it was appropriate to show me, & worse, in front of his dad, who saw no problem with it... oh god,poor kid]. Anyway, I know that the clip of other peoples faces watching it has done the rounds, and it has been referenced in cartoons - Stewie Griffin watches it & we see his reaction... so has become something of an cultural reference point HOWEVER, there is no reason for forgetting why it has such shock value, and that it is totally inappropriate for children and teenagers to be exposed to, even the idea of it. If I as a very liberal 30 something was shaken by it, what on earth would a innocent young teenager feel, its just horrible.

The people creating these apps are professionals with lots of experience in social media, and should be used to drawing the line between what some teens may say to each other in the play ground, and what a brand can say online. They should be ashamed of themselves, for all the reasons other people have said in this thread, but also because they are quite simply bad at their jobs too.

Good luck and will keep reading this thread.

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