This website......

[jon124]

Doesn't know kids, doesn't know how to deal with kids and is setting a bad example. I'm 16 and can already notice that this is quite obviously discrimination in it's mildest form. Oh a website purely for women trying to change a child's life by complaining. How about you look after your kids instead of expecting the government to do it for you.

No doubt this will get deleted in a minute or 2 but you know

"is this setting a good example for how a child should be when there older and if so how? "

yes mum, where's me tea

I'm missing something also. I thought on the whole MN was against the nanny state, no?

Jon in what way are we expecting government to raise our children?

Get it yaself son I'm on MN

at 16, I suppose we all knew everything as well.

Age and, far more importantly, experience soon put paid to that assumption

I don't think I know everything as well. I can guarantee I know a lot more things than a lot in this forum but in different fields. Same way you know more about other things.

and i suppose the fact that we were all once children/young people means nothing?

You still haven't answered my question. In what way are we expecting the government to raise our children?

Not getting it, Jon. Are you saying that mumsnet, as a whole, knows nothing about kids? I don't think this forum has its own consciousness Personally, I know rather a lot about two children. I make no claims to understanding anyone elses.

'I can guarantee I know a lot more things than a lot in this forum but in different fields.'

i'd love to know exactly how you can 'guarantee' this?!

I know f*ck all about my own kids, let alone anyone elses.

Chickens you are doing better than me. I know nothing about my two children, nor do I understand them in the slightest. Quite literally in dd2's case. I have used the wisdom of MN to decode her ramblings more than once

Sorry shiny didn't see your question, well your expecting them to look after your children. Use primark thing as an example. You don't agree with one of your kids wearing it so instead of telling your kid they can't have it you get the government to tell everyone they can't have it.

lol Tocca a good point well made

I LOVE LAMP

nah I look after my own kids and the government pays me in the form of benefits to do it

Also, I don't have a specialist field but I'd probably go with computing or mathematics or gaming

wouldn't that be fab, if we could tell the government what to do and they do it

the power!

it's doesn't happen all the time jon, don't you think it's good that people have some power?

don't have a specialist field in gaming- not good to beon the game you have a lot to learn...

i think the primark issue is a good point

the over sexualisation and premature sexualisation of children is insidious and dangerous

you need to think about it from a point of view of if you were a father, and your DD wanted a padded bikini at 7 or a pair of knickers that said 'porn star in training' at 12

it is vastly inappropriate and i think it is valid and acceptable that fora such as this galvanise and work together to bring important issues to the fore, for discussion and potential changes in society

we don't raise our children in a vacuum, we raise them in the context of a society - the society is on MN, in the public at large, in other fora and social networking sites

i think it would be far more wrong to turn a blind eye to importatn issues and let someone else deal with it

SEA do you not have Gordie's direct number?!!? CAT me and I'll give you it, wouldn't like to post it on a public forum for any Tom, Dick or Jon to see he regularly changes things I ask him to

I have a degree in bullshitting, if that's of any help?