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Is this over protective ?(long, but I've split it into paragraphs so it is more readable!)

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handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 00:05

Dh has qualified (again) for an all expenses paid work junket (he has a self employed contract affiliated to a multi tied finance organisation). The work junket is to - jeez, I can't even remember, a lovely city in Europe (it's late, it might come to me in a minute). It is for 5 days and covers me and him (not the kids). It will be 5* luxury and FOC

I did go with him to Rome last year and left the children with my mum for 4 nights.

I'm not keen to do it on this occasion because mum is 72 and in failing health (dad is older and pretty damn useless). She has had hypertension for years plus angina, but things went the other way recently and she suffered seriously low bp (which still isn't corrected) and was admitted to CCU for a couple of days after a 999 call. Her bp still isn't fixed, she is still experiencing black outs and she is booked in for 24 hour ECG and stress testing.

The kids are nearly 3 and just turned 1. Crikey they tire me out and I'm a healthy 37 year old. Don't think it is right to expect mum to take them for 4 days.

My dh's parents are in their 70's too - and his mum is suffering health problems too.

Dh suggested SIL instead, but she is single, has no kids, is a manic depressive (but controlled at the moment) and although she is excellent for babysitting for a night, she really wouldn't cut it caring for both of them for 5 days. I know she isn't up to the job. I'll expand if you want me to.

Dh keeps telling me how disappointed he is with me and that I am being obstructive and unreasonable in refusing to go etc. Getting big time grief over it. Have told him that I am happy for him to go solo.

What's your take on it?

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handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:14

dh going on about how important it is to him for use to spend time as a couple. A nice sentiment I suppose, but I can't just flick the 'parental responsibility button' to off!

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dot1 · 07/06/2005 21:21

Hi HMC! Having 2 kids the same age I can't think of a way that would be practical for you to go - we'd be in exactly the same shoes - brilliant grandparents nearby but the kids are too young and too exhausting to expect anyone else to look after them for 5 days!

Does your dh have to go? Could he not forego it for this year - maybe by next year other childcare arrangements might be more suitable??? Or your dh has to accept that fab trips for just the two of you are out of the question for another few years... It's something I've talked to my Mum about - she's a young grandma and in fairly good health, but she said she wouldn't take them for any length of time above a day or two for another few years - and I don't blame her!!

Tricky... I think you're amazing for saying he can go on his own, by the way!

handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:27

Hi dotty,

Long time no see! You've captured my thoughts on it entirely. Plenty of time for lovely twosome trips when the kids are just a smidgeon older....

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Blackduck · 07/06/2005 21:27

Couldn't do the cleaner thing personally - as you say you don't know her other half or anything....looking after someone's kids isn't quite the same as house sitting...

Blu · 07/06/2005 21:28

It IS important for you to spend time as a couple, but hardly conducive if you are worrying about the kids all the time. I would not leave DS for 5 days with anyone he didn't actually love, and who didn't love him. Aged parents with brought in support, yes, 2 or 3 days wiht someone they 'know' - maybe.

I don't think it's helpful for your DH to make you feel pulled in two like this - why is he COMPETING with his children for your time? S'pose because that's the killer negotiating instinct that wins him these prizes in the 1sdt place! Tell him to leave his work at work!

G'parents with extra help, or send DH on his own and then book a lovely romantic w/e for the two of you with solid back-up care fro the children.

JoolsToo · 07/06/2005 21:32

I'd have no problem leaving the kids for 4/5 days IF I knew they were with someone responsible and capable of looking after two toddlers - I find my darling 3 dgs knackering and that's when GDG is there too - so I quite agree that 70 somethings would find it an ordeal.

Unless you can find suitable babysitters or pay for the kiddywinks to go with you looks like your stuffed!

handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:35

Blu,

That's absolutely it - I won't exactly be in the right frame of mind for it if I am angst ridden about the lo's!

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dot1 · 07/06/2005 21:35

HMC - I agree - if he's concerned about couple time, yes that's important but can be achieved with meals out, weekend lunches if grandparents can babysit and every few months we farm our ds's out for 1 night - splitting them between the grandparents (we're really lucky that they all live within a mile of each other) and that's truly wonderful - not that we do anything other than sleep!! . But that's it and we're resigned/happy with treats like that for the next couple of years or so...

GeorginaA · 07/06/2005 21:37

is your dh two sandwiches short of a picnic?!

Sorry, am just flabergasted that he would be happy leaving them with someone you don't really know that well (particularly if you don't know the partner). These are your children your flesh and blood ... there are pet owners who take more care and attention over kennels they place their dogs with for a weekend!

GeorginaA · 07/06/2005 21:38

Sorry - rapid shock reaction and hit post too soon. That comes across in text far more acerbic than was my intention.

tucks tail between legs

handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:39

S'alright GeorginaA, it made me laugh...and tbh, as fond of him as I am, I sometimes think he is barking too.

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GeorginaA · 07/06/2005 21:40

Phew!

Hit post then thought ... shit... have probably mortally offended her now

ladymuck · 07/06/2005 21:43

The way I've done it in the past is to have a temp daily nanny during the day, and for my mum to stay over at night (she only lives 30 minutes away and goes home during the day). Mum doesn't feel exhausted/put upon (the boys seem to wake earlier for her!), and my 2 are generally content in their own home.

That said I do use temp nannies for the odd day here and there, so the boys have always known the person to some extent. I do also occasionally travel for a week at a time, and similarly use the nannies though this time combined with dh (who is out 8-7 for those days).

How soon is the trip?

handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:43

You've never offended me. Not even a tiny smidgeon

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GeorginaA · 07/06/2005 21:44
Smile
handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:44

It's September ladymuck...

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ninah · 07/06/2005 21:53

I think it would be fine to leave them with your parents as long as they have help, and that the nanny suggestion is great. I don't think this is the same situation, but for what it's worth last year we had our last couply break in Rome while my parents stayed in our house, they were 69 and in good health at the time - Mum a lot more use at looking after ds than Dad (he being of the hands off generation). ds went to nursery in the daytime so they had time to themselves plus we booked a sitter on Saturday night and they went out for a meal, then on the Sunday friends took ds for a party in the afternoon. I know Mum found it exhausting but she also loved having one to one time with ds and getting to know him and look after him without us parents being around. I hope something of her love and care stays in his memory cos she died last October.

handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 21:56

Oh Ninah,

I am so sorry.

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Blu · 07/06/2005 21:58

Oh Ninah, thats so sad. But also a very wonderful story about enabling her to have such close time with her gc.

ninah · 07/06/2005 21:59

thanks
I am not suggesting anything like this about your mum of course not, I hope you realise
But it did make me realise how precious time with the grandparents is
I hope you can sort something out that suits both you and dh, I know it is frustrating with arrangements. On the bright side, he loves you enough to want a romantic time with you - he can't be entirely barking!

ninah · 07/06/2005 22:04

yes, blu, it was wonderful she had time with him. We live about 2.5 hours away so it wasn't as much as I'd have liked. She made/bought him loads of clothes and I am not sure he remembers her but he does have a favourite blanket and says 'grandma made it'. I am having no2 in December and I am sad this one won't know her in any way.
Blimey hmc sorry, this is really off the topic now. Know nothing of St Petersburg, sounds intriguing.Let us know what you decide.

handlemecarefully · 07/06/2005 22:09

Ninah,

I am quite worried about mum's 'mortality'. We are off up to North Yorkshire next Thursday for a long weekend (a distance of around 265 miles) because I want to cram in grandchild, grandma time - so I'm with you all then way on the fact that time with the grandparents is precious...It's also odd that mum hasn't said 'don't come down and put yourself to all that trouble' like she usually would. I don't 'see' her being around for all that much longer (and I don't think she does either). Really hope I am wrong. DD really adores grandma.

Very sad for you and your children - but like Blu, quite moved by your story of her looking after the children last year before she died...I hope your ds retains some good memories too..

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Blu · 07/06/2005 22:10

Ninah - I am reminded by your story that i shouldn't make my Mum's decisions for her. I have a similiar issue with HMC: she has v bad arthritis in her hands and other joints, and is much more frail than she used to be. But she does so love DS, and I am reminded by your story that that I shouldn't make her decisions for her. Think I will 'book' her for a w/e - but have my sister tactfully on hand as emergency back-up.

Blu · 07/06/2005 22:12

The blanket story is truly lovely. How very precious that must be to you.

ninah · 07/06/2005 22:21

You obviously have a lot of love in your families hmc and blu. You can't go wrong.
I had no inkling of mum's mortality, she was strong and fit, full of energy. I don't think I could have acted differently although I do regret that I had planned a weekend trip to see her and cancelled cos my car failed it's MOT. I don't think you should behave any differently because you are afraid their love is finite so to speak, we really have no idea what is around the corner, I was more afraid for Dad tbh. You love and appreciate them, what more could a mother wish for? that is all I would want from ds. In my heart I will always be the grown up one, and it's the same for our parents, even as we see them getting frail.