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Rosa · 10/04/2009 13:17

E primavera ...Buona Pasqua Tutti .......

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DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/04/2009 22:10

Up north I see wine bottle with hitler and mussolini all the time .

penthe I want to come too at the c meetup. can I? It's a straight train ride from me I think.

Sputnik · 22/04/2009 22:10

Thanks Pippi

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/04/2009 22:11

franca did you get my message today?

francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2009 22:11

we'll

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:11

LOL @ Hitler poster. How freaking weird!

I've been watching Smack the Pony on 4OD (rather than MNing), and there's that great sketch where the hairdresser is like "You should get your hair done like the one off the telly" "You know, from the World at War", then lifts her comb below the nose of the lady. Tres funny.

francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2009 22:13

Pippi, oh yes, I memorized it! Sorry I didn't reply, as I was getting dd ready for swimming lesson

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/04/2009 22:13

no need to reply.

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:14

Yes, Pippi - do come as well! That would be super. Really looking forward to it.

That is very organised of you to have kept an English mobile, franca.

francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2009 22:14

Oh god I love smack the pony!!! I have a vhs of it

francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2009 22:16

Penthe and Pippi, if you bring a hat I might even smuggle you inside the actual ceremony. There'll be lots of champagne I'm told

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:16

It is awesome indeed.

"Can't liiiiiiivvveeee... If living is without youuuuuuuuuuu"

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:17

LOL at being smuggled into the wedding. I wonder if I know anyone there already? Is it in a college chapel, etc.?

francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2009 22:20

penthe, that is one of my favourite, the competitive singing!

It is in a college chapel, I think. The party is deffo in a college thingy.

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/04/2009 22:20

not easy to be smuggled with two children, especially miniriot. But I'd love to wear a hat.

Re absurd expectation in brit ed system look at this thread. sometimes they make you paranoid www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/743364-Please-tell-me-what-you-think-of-this?msgid=15182295

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:23

WTF is going on with that poor girl's teacher?

Is this the fallout, do you think, from the truancy problem in the UK - that is, everyone hugely overreacts? Or, is it because of league tables and exam results from an early age? All of this is still to happen to me...

Poor Pippi - are you stressing?

We could dress the children as flower girls!

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 22/04/2009 22:27

it is because of both I think,
no I am not stressing actually because dd is a gem of a child. I am just shocked at what is asked from these tiny children and amazed at the system. they are only 4. they should just play in fields fgs.

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:29

I agree, completely. Isn't it the case in Scandinavia that kids start school at 7, with better long term results?

Penthesileia · 22/04/2009 22:30

Or formal schooling from 7 (e.g. learning to read & write); before then they "play" at school?

francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2009 22:33

yes, put them in something pink and frilly and we can deffo pass them as flower girls etc.

I'm by that thread you linked to pippi. I think the place for a sick child is at home. And at 4 they should be at nursery, playing the whole day, drawing etc not running the risk of "falling behind". Behind what btw? See, there is this obsession is thinking that reaching targets, learn things at a really young age is the key to everything, and I soooo disagree with this.

gio71 · 23/04/2009 08:07

at that thread Pippi
This is where, as much as I have been known to mock "febbre 38 significa una settimana a casa" type comments, when it comes down to it I much prefer it. Just dont get all this need to whack pressure on kids from such a young age.My sister is training to be a primary school teacher and the expectations she tells me about seem ludicrous.
Had one quick glance at a tax thread and it made me want to cry in frustration. How how how is it possible that people earning over 150k feel it is wrong to increase their tax payments. Always justified with the "I once was a poor struggling type but by sheer force of will and hard work blah blah statement" I speak as a former high earner,happy tax payer.I watched the budget yesterday and had to turn it off half way through Cameron's response as ds was looking weirdly at me shouting "so what would YOU do sunshine" and "where's your bloody policies" at the TV.

Sputnik · 23/04/2009 09:17

My Mum once had a Swedish girl in her class who hadn't yet learned to read. By the end of the year she was a fluent reader, and that was in a second language.

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 23/04/2009 09:41

oh tax thread got my wrath as well. I gave my dh a bit of my piece of mind - not that he asked for it or disagreed bless .

I agreed to the higher tax over 40k and even more so to this new one.

the way I see it if you earn 18k a year all you use your money as a family for are essentials while over 40+ you buy what at school was called 'surplus'. Everybody can leave happily with little less of that no?
and your point about the italian tax evasor (sp?) was good. dh and I were incensed when a dear friend of mine (super duper avvocato penale) told us how much he declares! something like 18k a year!

SunflowerNeedsSunshine · 23/04/2009 10:43

just read that thread pippi... you know, end of term we got another yellow paper stating that DS's attendance had dropped (warned you, didn't I about that 1 day he had high temp...) anyway, on an "explanatory" letter they sent round the first time, it kind of suggested the same thing as that teacher (which got me sooooooooooooo worked up, as it seemed to suggest that I either was too precious about DS or that I wasn't interested in his education)... but now I've decided I don't care, I've seen many threads on here aout the subject, so it is just a target/number issue as supposed to a real concern (I realise there are parents who don't give a damn about their kids' education, but I'm sure that in their case a "yellow" paper wouldn't do anything anyway).

anyway, still think 4 is tooooooooo young for proper school and when I think that from Sept DS will be in a "proper" class... no childhod really...

had 3 bad nights, poor DD, her first cold... oh, she's waking up now....

oh, penthe, yes, storage first! we couldn't do that way round, so now that we've finally got a garage sorted, we'll make a start on the loft, which means emptying it, only to put everything back when sorted!! and the mess.. not looking forward to it, especially as my hayfever is realy bad at the moment, and to add all the dust which will certainly make its way into the bedrooms to it....

DamonBradleylovesPippi · 23/04/2009 10:50

I have been just reading ofsted rep and the nursery dd goes to has just gotten one which is outstanding . However there's a mark for attendance which was 'only' good. I did ask dd's teachers whether it was ok to take her out of nursery so often, as I did for hol, and the teacher said it's the best I could do for them: gives them more experiences etc. Mind you I know it is nursery and she is a super leftie blue haired teacher (who told me shaking her head that you have to sell your soul at the altar if you want to send your child to a RC's school). Still I bet there are some teacher that even at reception will hint that you should not miss class.

francagoestohollywood · 23/04/2009 11:39

Sorry I disappeared last night, my connection let me out, while I was trying to post the photocopy scene from smack the pony

Nodding my head to all your post re taxes and school. I cannot believe they chart 5 yrs old attendance! Our primary in Exeter was quite laid back on this issue, and also allowed us to take ds out for a few days before Easter holidays . which would shock lots of mnetters!

And as you know, I'm totally against setting targets about reading for children under 6, as the average child is just not ready. Of course there are children who are (most of mnetters children ) but the majority is not. Ds (totally not interested when he was 4 and a half in reception) is now reading quite fluently in Italian and magia, magia, even reads in English . He learnt on the album di figurine del calcio panini.
Also I find there is the obsession to link intelligence with the ability to read in the UK, which is so wrong imho. Ds's maestra is not at all fussed by reading yet.

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