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oooh, what would happen if....(school lunchboxes)

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Tortington · 08/12/2008 13:18

just occured to me what would happen it you put a chocolate biscuit bar in and a small bag of crisp

then you get told off - you nod and say "absolutley" but carry on.

repeat
repeat.

but you still carry on

what would the powers that be actually do?

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MrsBadger · 08/12/2008 13:22

take it out on th ekid

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Tortington · 08/12/2008 13:24

would they? teachers would bully the kids would they?

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Iklboo · 08/12/2008 13:26

My mate had this problem, went to the school and asked to speak to the teacher. teacher came out of staff room, breath reeking of fags. Mate told her 'I don't think you've got an argument here have you? Small chocolate biscuit on a Friday versus your fag habit?'
Didn't go down well at all I'm afraid but teacher kept quiet about the Friday Biscuit after that

chopchopbusybusy · 08/12/2008 13:30

Not entirely sure about the bad habits of the teacher being relevant. The lunchbox restrictions are unlikely to have been introduced by the class teacher. Headteacher or LEA. I drink a lot more red wine than is good for me and I drink a lot of strong coffee. I wouldn't expect my DDs to do either of those.

MrsBadger · 08/12/2008 13:31

not bully but snidily:

'Didn;t you give Mummy the letter, Emily?'
'Doesn't your mummy understand about healthy eating?'
'Oh dear, Emily's mummy is a bit of a silly'
'Poor old Emily!'
'It's not very fair on everyone else, is it, Emily?'

ForeverOptimistic · 08/12/2008 13:33

Why break the rules? Surely a child can manage without chocolate and crisps until they get home, can't they?

BitOfFun · 08/12/2008 13:35

Hmm, I don't know what they'd do- perhaps remove the "offending items" and let them go hungry? I do get a bit wound up by all this- am quite relieved my schoolkids are on hot dinners.

chopchopbusybusy · 08/12/2008 13:38

There was another thread this morning about the mother who was on the Today programme complaining that her 8 year old DD was not allowed to wear earrings to school and the general consensus was that the mother was barking and that school rules were there for a reason and she should abide by them or home educate. Lunch box rules are the same surely. Children really can go for a few hours without eating crap.

ForeverOptimistic · 08/12/2008 13:40

I help out at lunchtimes occasionally, to begin with I highlighted it to the teacher and she raised it with the parents. They continued to put chocolate in the childrens lunch boxes so now we just tend to ignore it, lots of the other children get upset because they know that there is a no chocolate rule.

UnfortunatelyMe · 08/12/2008 13:47

There is a school rule at dds school that no proper chocolate, but kit cats or similar are ok(eh?)
And it seems daft, so I ignore and put what I like in...BECAUSE initially I stopped, and the kids said that x y and z still had offending items..and I thought, well if its ok for them, its ok for me.(its not often however, but at halloween we had those dairy milk treat size)

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Tortington · 08/12/2008 15:56

i think you're missing the point when you suggest that they can go without crap for a few hours.

i am sure you are aware that i am raging against the govt machine that suddenly dictates by proxy through schools.

i rather think that sadly, mrs badger is right. which is really pants that teachers will manipulate through kids. shouldnt they like...erm..teach something?

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Ivykaty44 · 08/12/2008 16:01

Nothing is said at my dd's school, they can have chocolate biscuits, crisps and the teachers never say a word.

Perhpas it is due to one or four of the teachers being fat and it would be a bit silly if they started telling the dc not to eat thoses types of things when they deff do

Just asked dd and even fruit shoots get through

herbietea · 08/12/2008 16:07

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Ivykaty44 · 08/12/2008 16:19

What a sensible lady herbie.

At my dd's school they do 10 minutes run around twice a day to get some fresh air and excersise, this is something the school can do to promote healthy living and get all the dc running around.

They have found the dc concentrate better after a run round - teacher doe the run round aswell

Better for the school to tackle something they can influence and achieve and get positive results.

ForeverOptimistic · 08/12/2008 16:29

Well at our school the "no chocolate" rule was put in place because parents wanted it that way. The children that bring chocolate in eat it then say that they are too full up to eat their sandwiches I guess that is fine if the parents are happy with that.

I don't accept that it is more economical to provide children with junk food rather than healthy stuff. I know fruit is really expensive these days, I struggle to afford a variety but it is still cheaper to buy a banana than a bar of chocolate. Even in Waitrose a banana is less than 20p and it doesn't cost much to cut up a carrot certainly less than it costs to buy a bag of crisps.

thenewme · 08/12/2008 16:30

Mine are not allowed chocolate in their lunch boxes unless it is with fruit. I make chocolate brownies with cranberries in but keep them for home. My children are always hungry so I put in everything I know they will be allowed to eat and keep brownies for home.

SnowySunshine · 08/12/2008 16:35

When I was little, we weren't allowed pure chocolate bars (but were allowed chocolate with biscuit / wafers in the middle). That was nothing to do with healthy eating, but more to do with the mess if they melted.

Same principle as not taking fizzy drinks, etc. It seemed rather sensible to me.

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Tortington · 08/12/2008 16:45

i fear the economic argument will stear the thread from the argument, but in response to that - i have three kids annd at one point in time it was cheaper to have them all on packed lunches, with that crap wafer thin ham at £2.OO that would last all week. pack of 20 brand own chocolate wafer biscuit thingies £2.00 - IF THAT. crap is certainly cheaper than fruit. it just is

in a off license - a country wide chin one - forget the name - 10 yes 10 csmall chocolate bars like frogger for £1.00

thats half. the price of a narna.

am not advocating is - am just saying.

now, are you saying that this is really something that individual schools are doing - and that this isn't part of any wider govt plan at all?

genuinely interested - just assumed it was a diktat off the back of the jamie scooter thing.

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Ivykaty44 · 08/12/2008 16:46

But why would the parents need a no chocolate rule if the parents dont want to give their children chocolate - there would be no need for the rule - would there?

or am I missing something?

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Tortington · 08/12/2008 16:52

good point ivykaty

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PeachyBidsYouNadoligLlawen · 08/12/2008 16:59

if I give (well gave, I sorted it out_ DS3 the wrong drink for school then they confiscated it and he wasnt allowed a drink

I on, btew.

But its mean to punish the kids

And yes there is more to my story LOL so dont villify me

ForeverOptimistic · 08/12/2008 17:14

You would think so Ivykaty44 but you would be surprised how many parents care about the content of other childrens lunchboxes. I expect they are the same parents who snoop at reading books in book bags.

Custy, I think it is an individual school thing. The schools in our county are signed up to the healthy schools plan, the content of lunchboxes etc is down to the discretion of the school.

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Tortington · 08/12/2008 18:29

what is the healthy schools plan - where does it come from - does anyone know?

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juuule · 08/12/2008 19:14

Some info on it on teachernet

juuule · 08/12/2008 19:16

Healthy Schools - Healthy eating

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