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Motherhood is hell

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Janos · 04/03/2005 10:27

I really liked this article - I thought it was honest and refreshing.

What it's really like being a mum..

Managed to read it while my baby son was having a nap

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GhostofNatt · 04/03/2005 11:50

I'm totally with you too dinosaur

dinosaur · 04/03/2005 11:50

I'm still a lawyer but don't do client work any more. But I must get off here now and do some work!

MrsDoolittle · 04/03/2005 11:50

Sorry posts crossed!
I feel sad for you scampadoodle, what makes you feel like that?

GhostofNatt · 04/03/2005 11:51

And me, two ring binders looking at me funny. will check later...

MrsDoolittle · 04/03/2005 11:53

I must go too. A grumpy, teething 10 month old is demanding my attention now

scampadoodle · 04/03/2005 11:56

I do love my boys, & I found the 2nd easier than the first (though looking after them together is another matter) & they bring me much joy, but it is hard, & frustrating & some other mothers always seem to be able to bf successfully, & get their kids to eat good food, & never get angry... I think that is what is meant by the conspiracy of silence because of course in reality their lives aren't like that.

A lot of the celebrity mothers who are now coming out & saying how hard they find it I remember initially couldn't stop waxing lyrical about how they "loved being a mum".

tarantula · 04/03/2005 11:59

I agree with HM that maybe alot of people are over optomistic when preggie. Think I was the opposite as have grown up with loads of kids/babies around and so knew how hard it could be. actually I found it alot easier than I thought and felt more relaxed than I thought Id be. the worse bit to deal with was the loneliness but I know Id have made more effort on that score if I hadnt been going back to work full time.

Janos · 04/03/2005 12:00

Well, truth be told, I never thought I would enjoy being a mother, and am surprised at how much I do. I absolutely love my DS to bits and love being with him. I will miss him like crazy when I go back to work.

Thing is, of course I knew it was going to be hard work, but I didn't know until DS was born just exactly how hard it would be, and we were in the thick of it all. I'd never been around small children/babies for any length of time at all before.

It certainly isn't 'hell' at all but then (and I'm speaking personally here) it is also scary, frightening and incredibly hard work - certainly the hardest job I've ever done.

I also think that although I would agree there is no conspiracy of silence, there is a perception that any mother not expressing 100% positive feelings about being a mum is a bad parent.

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tarantula · 04/03/2005 12:00

Jsut a thought If there is such a consiracy of silence how come there are so many books/articles on how difficult motherhood is?

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Janos · 04/03/2005 12:07

tarantula - good point!

I would say, maybe it's something that is understood but not really talked about much (I mean in general, rather than on MNet), rather than openly admitted to.

I'm not just talking about the physical aspects but the emtional side, where mums feel like they are inadequate or whatever and don't want to admit to having bad feelings about being a mum.

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lou33 · 04/03/2005 12:07

I think it sounds spot on, esp the bit that says

"Nobody told her that motherhood was about being a different kind of person. She wanted to hang on to her old self."

I love my kids but motherhood is not a natural state for me i have come to realise.

I had pnd with the last 3 as well, and had to cope with my mother dying when the youngest was 10 weeks old.

Janos · 04/03/2005 12:12

That would be really hard at any time lou, let alone when you have a 10 week old baby to look after.

I'v been suffering from PND too and found it very frightening and upsetting.

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Beatie · 04/03/2005 12:24

When I was pregnant and spoke to friends and family who were mums, no-one gave me the impression it was going to be easy. Quite the opposite. I remember going to dinner the eve I began my maternity leave at 16 weeks pregnant and these two women going on and on about the negatives. I actually had to stop them with some curt comment about how I should slit my wrists now.

I think there is no conspiracy. Everyone has different lives and different experiences. Everyone has different expectations. Sometimes, those who find it the hardest, are those who have the greatest expectations. When my SIL had a newborn, some years before I had my first, I remember being horrified when she told me some days she was still in her PJs until the afternoon. I could not understand how a little person could take up so much time.

Luckily, by the time I had my own, my expectations were more realistic and I understood already how difficult it is to give your life over to caring for a baby. I expected my life to be some black hole for the first few months of life with a newborn. Some days it was but most days it wasn't. I grabbed all the support I could. I always knew on bad days that things would get better.

When people are pregnant with their first child, I say two things to them. 1. There is no way you can imagine how tired you are going to be and how much the baby is going to take over your life. AND 2. There is no way you can imagine how much love you are going to feel for your baby and quite how it is going to change your life.

I would hate women who are suffering not to speak out about their postnatal trauma or difficulties. People need to feel safe to say, I am not coping, it's nothing like I thought it would be, I am bored, I am unhappy. But at the same time, as far as newspaper reports go haven't we seen it many times before? So what is this conspiracy of silence they keep talking about.

It also has to be OK for people to say I love being at home with a newborn.

Beatie · 04/03/2005 12:25

Started maternity leave at 36 weeks even

scampadoodle · 04/03/2005 12:25

Lou:

We're all expepcted to be so bloody perfect in all areas of our lives when we become mothers, so we can't help but fail. It's the current (Daily Mail?) stick with which to beat women.

lou33 · 04/03/2005 12:27

Don't think i had recovered from having pnd before i was pg with another iyswim. Docs were shite, left to deal with it myself basically, and had no hv.

I do think some people are better suited to motherhood than others, I was stupid to get pg so many times really.

Janos · 04/03/2005 12:31

Beatie, very well said.

BUT..I think women who do have PND (for example, and just speaking from my own expereince here) often feel too frightened/ashamed etc to ask for they help that they need.

So if articles like this help mums in whatever way, by saying, it's Ok to feel like this -you're not the only one, you're not an awful mother I think that's a good thing.

And of course it should be be OK for mums to say 'I love being at home with a newborn' - but, just a thought, maybe mums who are totally happy don't need quite as much emotional support?

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Beatie · 04/03/2005 12:36

I always felt, and still feel, that I owe him far far more than he could ever owe me Awww - dinosaur - what a lovely thing to say.

MrsDoolittle · 04/03/2005 12:38

I know what you are saying Janos.
I really do feel really blessed to enjoy being a mum so much but I do feel sad sometimes that I can't shout it from the roof tops in fear of offending those who aren't having such a good time of it.
I really don't want to think of myself as a smug mummy but I really was expecting the worst.

GhostofNatt · 04/03/2005 12:39

I agree entirely that those with PND or who are finding it really hard shoudl be able to speak out about it / get support / know they are not alone, just get a bit tired of one-sided bits of journalsim which try and universalise the whole thing. Why not just say a lot of new mums go trhough very bad times but not everyone?

dinosaur · 04/03/2005 16:30

Beatie - I can be a soppy old megalosaurus sometimes...

triceratops · 04/03/2005 16:47

I adore my ds but I did not enjoy him as a small baby. He was a bit of a colicky child and nothing would comfort him. I was in shock at leaving my much loved job for 24hr nappies and screaming. I was lonely and bored most of the time. It is much more fun being a mum now that we can interact more and I have found a new career. At least when our next child is born I will have someone in the house to speak to.

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