ANY EX RHODESIANS

[RHODIEGUY]

Hey just checking what this is all about, mad mums netter in bed

In that case Rhodie guy you would know that some people with roots (and many family members) still in Zimbabwe would find people referring to Zimbabwe as Rhodesia, and still calling themselves Rhodesian as offensive

Think you missing the point there Gwenick, nothing predujice but I call Zim - Zim, if people ask where I was born I say Rhod. Like some people say Bechuanaland - Botswana

No I'm not missing any point - I fear YOU are the one missing the point.

I have a friend - who I guess is much older than you (he retired last summer) who I met before travellig to Zimbabwe. He was born out there and spent many happy years before his parents moved, and he moved with them - all over the world. His words to me where "I was born in Zimbabwe, used to be called Rhodesia" not the other way round.

Yeh I say I was born in Zim as what it is classed today, but I still see as myself Rhodesian, Unfornately if Zim was in a better state than what it was now then yes I would be a proud Zim. But what is happening to the majority of blacks who can be a proud Zim.

you see yourself as Rhodesian - well that says it all really doesn't it.........

You may think it's 'ok' to call yourself that - but I can guarantee that the majority of blacks won't be thanking you for being so proud of Rhodesia and so dismissive of Zimbabwe.

Yes Mugabe has screwed things up in recent years - but it doesn't mean that people can't be proud of being a Zimbabwean

And lets not also forget that if I were to call you a "rhodie" in the street it would be just as offensive as if I were to call you "Murungu"

Gwenick I have many friends black and white, when I go back we drink the castle and they call out when days were better with Ian Smith. Reason they had food which they dont have know. I joke with them about Rhod, there is no hard feelings.

These people are decent people, the only people who I wouldn't say it in front of and you know who. Zim is full of good people. These people dont find it a prob if I say hey I'm Rhodie.

We are all African, we all like to go back but like me and you we know why we cannot go back. I care about my kids future.

Anyway nice talking even if we disagree, but hey I care for folks back home. Nobody is doing anything to help those dying, even I cannot do anything.

Chow

Days were better with Ian Smith - the blacks say that - sorry mate but your living in cloud cuckoo land!

You may recall that Indepedence came about 24 (almost 25yrs) ago. When we left in April 2000 - there was PLENTY of food in the shops it's only been in the last 4/5yrs that the situation has become like it is today - it didn't happen in 1980 - rather in 2000.

I lived in Zimbabwe from 1983 to 86. I loved it

Gwenick, my MIL also refers to herself as a Rhodesian and every time I hear it I want to shout that Rhodesia doesn't exist anymore you racist idiot. And she is the worst kind of racist - the sort who has lots of friends who are black, but was very suprised to find that the solicitor who sorted out everything in Zim for her (she moved back in 96 for 4 years) was black as well. I get so angry, but have given up trying to change her views because she really can't see what is wrong with them.
She, and many of her family, did get screwed by Mugabe's govt - a cousin had a tobacco farm and got beaten up and thrown out and arrived her with nothing, but they don't seem to be able to understand that this is a problem with Mugabe and his cronies rather than the whole black population.

(but this is the woman who bought the CDto teh the film "Out of Africa" so that my dd and ds could learn about their african heritage )