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A wedding thread - Mumsnet advice needed on how to cause the least amount of upset (no upset at all is not an option)

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BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 20:17

DP and I have never wanted to get married. In fact, we have actively not wanted to get married. Reasons not terribly relevant to this thread. We're perfectly happy as we are.

My family: Would be delighted if we changed out minds, but quite understand that it's our decision alone, and they're sensible enough to realise that the most important bit is that we're stable and happy and, in their eyes, "as good as married".

DP's family: Don't understand at all why we won't do it. Forever bringing the subject up. Feel that the reason we're not married is because we're not committed to each other, in which case we should split up. The fact that we're not married causes them unhappiness.

So. It is looking increasingly likely that by the end of the year we're going to be living in a country in which it is illegal for unmarried couples to co-habit. As far as we're concerned no biggie, we'll pop down to the registry office and get married. It is just a document. It's not like we weren't planning on being together forever anyway, and it won't have any bearing on our relationship.

My family: we'll phone and tell them that we're getting married so we can move to this place. Explain that it's a legal document, not a wedding. They'll understand.

DP's family: Urg! What do we do? They're very pushy and will almost certainly want to come along. I don't really want that because as soon as we mark the occasion in any way it would be unfair to my family who won't be there. And as soon as we have both families it's a wedding which we don't want. Bluntly put, we don't want DP's family there. We don;t want anyone there. How do we tell them this without upsetting them too much?

(Fait accompli not a goer).

PS - We are quite happy to have a bit of a celebration in a few years time.

PPS - I'm such a sap - this evening DP said "Broccoli, will you marry me?" and I said yes and felt all romantic and absurdly pleased! Arf. I'm such a fake .

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dizzydixies · 04/06/2008 20:19

go to registry office but invite them all to lunch after and have a small celebration so they have a way to mark it?

no need for them to be at ceremony but being at a lunch/similar will make them feel involved maybe?

Chequers · 04/06/2008 20:19

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RubySlippers · 04/06/2008 20:20

aw - you had a proposal!

the thing i have learnt with weddings is that whaetver you decide to do, people will get upset/offended, so do what you like!

nip down to the reg office - don't tell anyone (you only need two witnesses) and get everyone together for a party afterwards

NotABanana · 04/06/2008 20:21

Why can't you do it and tell them after?

Slouchy · 04/06/2008 20:21

An ex-colleague of mine did this when he and his dw moved to the Emirates.

They had solemn registry do, invited few folk; then had a party for a number of family and friends.

Oh, and they dressed up as dogs for their party - this is true.

edam · 04/06/2008 20:24

See, there is something about getting married that makes one go all gooey.

I'm not sure there is a way out of this except by telling a whopping lie-by-omission and not admitting to the wedding. If you do what you want and hold true to your beliefs, dh's family will be upset, however unjust that is.

2point4kids · 04/06/2008 20:24

Do both families know that you need to be married to move to this country? Can you just not tell anyone anything if not?
If they do know that you need to get married then cant you still get married on the quiet and tell no one? and then say you found a loophole round the whole co-habiting in this other country thing?

2point4kids · 04/06/2008 20:25

Basically just LIE

S1ur · 04/06/2008 20:26

Weeeel you could try,
we've got a bit of paperwork to fill ot before we can move and then we're all set so are having a party to celebrate.... come and wish us luck.

Pretty sure it won't quite cut it though.

heh, you went gushy you wanna get maaaaaarried and be a wifey

BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 04/06/2008 20:28

Why don't you want a "wedding" if you are happy to have a celebration in a few years time? If it isn't really important to you either way why can't you just do it, invite the family, making it as low key as you want and just let them get on with it?

flamingtoaster · 04/06/2008 20:38

Either arrange a going away party, get married in the afternoon and announce it at the party - or go abroad for a holiday, get married there, and send everyone pictures of the happy event when you get back.

TillyScoutsmum · 04/06/2008 20:44

We're getting married later this year and were initially planning on just grabbing a couple of witnesses off the street and going to a registry office... I don't think my family would be that bothered but MIL had said she would really like to see us get married (she's lovely and is a great babysitter so wouldn't like to offend her)

We then were going to just invite parents and siblings to a register office and then lunch but that didn't really "work" for our families (both mine and dp's parents are divorced and re-married and an intimate little lunch might have been a bit uncomfortable)

So - we're getting married late afternoon and just having a party with family and friends. Its a long way from what we were initially planning but I'm quite excited now

Would something like that be an option ?

BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 20:45

If we do it and tell them afterwards there would be an almighty row. They would be furious and we don't want to deliberately upset them.

Low key is an issue as we both live quite a way from our families and both have quite big immediate families. Even the lowest of low key events would involve flights and hotels and people taking time off work.

We don't mind having a party in a few years time as we feel that by not having a wedding nor christening our children, we might never have a celebration of our family. We have a vague idea of waiting until we've had all our children and they're old enough to be involved and then having one big party in the style of a wedding reception sort of thing (posh frock and a marquee) but do it our own way.

We had not considered dressing up as dogs...

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2point4kids · 04/06/2008 20:48

but why not do it and then NOT tell them.
They will never know!

Tell them in a few years time when you have your big celebration!

BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 04/06/2008 20:55

But broccoli if they are the ones making such a big deal out of it that's their choice to fly all that way, book hotels etc. Just tell them what you are doing, if they all make a big fuss say "ok, we'll have a celebration but it's only going to be afternoon tea/fish and chips on the beach/a bbq" if you want to come down great, if not no worries.

I don't really see a satisfactory way out, but your party idea sounds nice. However would people appreciate that sort of party given that it is not linked to anything in particular?

Do it for the presents

BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 20:55

Eek. Now that's a thought 2.4. I can just imagine someone coming out with "umm... don't you have to be married to live there...?" in a year or two's time and it all coming out. They would Not Be Happy. Plus I'm not a decietful person and I don't think I'd like to lie to our families, even if it is just a lie of omission... though if no one ever found out it would be tempting...

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BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 22:06

There's nothing for it. We'll just have to tell them we don't want anyone to be there, and they'll have to get on with it.

And then what about telling people? Would a group email be too awful? We have to tell people somehow or people will feel upset in finding out "oh yes, Broccoli and Mr Broc got married a few months back - didn't you know?" - I don't want people to feel hurt that we didn't bother to tell them. Ugh.

2.4's idea of keeping it a complete secret is looking more and more attractive.

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harpsichordcarrier · 04/06/2008 22:10

oh BS don't do that they will be upset vvvv upset
oh lord
how tricky
can you combine the celebration with another big party e.g. have you had a "welcoming" for your children? big birthday coming up? leaving party???

BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 22:40

Slight tangent here, but for me part of the reason that this is tricky is because our families just aren't involved in our lives at all. Like lots of people we live far far away from them, and we probably see them a couple of times a year at best. Then suddenly convention decrees that these are the people who we must share a celebration of our relationship with. It's all so fake. I really hate fake.

If we have any sort of celebration, surely the people to be there should be the people with whom we share our lives? The friends who looked after dd while I was in hospital having ds? The people who celebrate my birthday with me, and made cake for dp when I was ill, and know dd's favourite colour, and pop around for coffee, and know us?

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MARGOsBeenPlayingWithMyNooNoo · 04/06/2008 22:44

Where are you going to live?

jura · 04/06/2008 22:45

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BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 22:46

UAE.

Sharia law = no co-habiting if you're not married. And quite right too.

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Pruners · 04/06/2008 22:46

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BroccoliSpears · 04/06/2008 22:50

Lol - no logic whatsoever.

Right. Dressing up as dogs it is.

Woof.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 04/06/2008 22:51

DH is RAF, and knows a couple of people who have done the deed without telling anyone in either family (so that they could live together in RAf acomodation )- and then got a blessing a few years later and pretended it was the actual do