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Am I unreasonable in expecting my inlaws to be more generous?

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tootle · 08/12/2004 12:20

My inlaws are stingy people. They have a very warped sense of what spending excessively is. In their eyes anything beyond frugal living is excessive.

My DH are not materialistic people but when we do buy something (say somethimg long lasting like a breadmaker) we buy the best quality we can afford.

I am a SAHM, my dh is a public sector worker and we live in the very expensive South East. We bought our house 2 years ago and missed out buying at the beginning of the boom. If we'd bought 18 months earlier I guess we'd be in a very different position.

30 years ago, my dh's profession was well respected and well-paid in comparison to other jobs, but all things being relative, he's well enough paid that we don't suffer anything near poverty, but we're never going to be the richest people on the block.

But, I don't think my inlaws are intune with relativety. They are obviously proud of their son and his chosen profession. However, they don't seem to realise that, whilst we are still able to buy mobile phones, have a monthly meal out, buy our dd new clothes (as well as nearly new) and have a modest annual holiday, we're actually not very big spenders in comparison to a double waged couple with no kids, or two parents who work in the field of IT (for example)

All we really want out of life is to live in a better area in a slightly bigger house. We don't want 3 foreign holidays a year or a bug 4X4 in the drive or to be able to cloth our dd from miniboden.

My inlaws live in a large house in the most expensive home county. They are just retired. They don't appear to spend much money. They eat food beyond its use-by-date, they buy second hand at the detriment of choice/quality, they hardly ever go on holiday, they don't even spend much money on their lovely house. But, they're from the generation when they struggled. They brought up 4 children in a small house and they didn't have spare cash for holidays and their children didn't have new clothes and toys and blah blah blah.

Dh's 3 siblings are older, single and childless (and will remain that way) so I cannot understand why they won't do more to help us give their only grandchild a better start in life. Why not let us have some of our inheritance now... why are they saving it up in the bank. I wouldn't mind if they actually spent it and enjoyed themselves but I just don't get it.

My children will probably benefit hugely in the future from their grandparents but I think it is better that the money is spent now to provide my daughter with a bigger house and better quality of life than being presented to her as a lumpsum in her teens or 20s when she could do more damage with the money.

If they won't put their hands in their pocket to help us out, I wish they could at least be supportive instead of making sniping remarks about how many clothes my dd has (she does NOT in comparison to thers) how many toys she has, how they coped fine without a baby back carrier. ARGH!

They probably think it is character building to struggle.

Sorry - I just had to vent!

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happymerryberries · 08/12/2004 21:22

My MIL is a wonderful, fun lady who is generous with her time and although she doesn't spend large amounts on our kids the gifts she gives them are always well thought out, and have involved her taking a lot of time, effort and love.

She has worked amazingly hard in her life and has now retired. She laughinly says that she travels to 'spend the boys inheritance' and good on her for doing it. It is her hard earned cash and she deserves to spend it on herself. She did the hair shirt time when she raised 4 boys on her own. She deserves to enjoy her retirement as she wishes. Just like I intend to when I retire Grin

alexsmum · 08/12/2004 21:32

my in laws can be really quite generous with their money.But to be honest I would much rather they were generous with their time and support.We only see them a couple of times a year, they don't babysit or anything like that.
On my ds2's first birthday, they didn't get him a present 'cos they hadn't had time but they said they will put money in his account instead.I would rather they had taken some time and bought him a £5 present.

tigermoth · 09/12/2004 07:43

I have to say that when my sons are adults, if they were genuinely struggling and if I was in a position to help them financially, I think I would expect them to discuss matters with me and wouldn't be offended if they raised the inheritance topic first. I intend to be quite open about inheritance plans. After all, it's all family money in the end - I can't take it with me. If it can be used to spread some happiness while I was around to enjoy the results, so much the better.

PamiNativity · 09/12/2004 09:01

Tigermoth - that's exactly how my parents felt. True, we weren't exactly struggling, but they felt that it would be nice for us to have a bigger house which we otherwise could not have afforded. Also, although they don't know it yet, it crystallised our plans to have a third child!
Sobernoel - my dh got v offended at first that my parents were somehow snubbing him by giving the money directly to our dds. I pointed out firstly that if anyone should be offended then it should be me (!) and secondly that it made much more sense to skip a generation and therefore lessen the tax liability. The trust deed names our 2 dds specifically as beneficiaries and then any further children of mine (but not of dh's) in case I have more children that aren't his! He also managed to get a bit huffy about that. Male egos, eh?

serenequeen · 09/12/2004 09:05

hi tootle, i know you have had a miserable time this year. i wonder if you have allowed yourself to dwell on this more than you normally would because you are feeling low. other people have made the comments i would make, so i won't repeat them - except it really is worth thinking about avoiding iht if possible.

serenequeen · 09/12/2004 09:07

btw, i am absolutely Envy at some of you! Wink

tatt · 09/12/2004 09:23

I wish I had some rich relatives who might leave me money one day or buy presnts for my children. However I don't. With the exception of a car (old) and a few hundred pounds everything I get I have to work for. Very character building. Don't see why I should feel obliged to leave everything to my children either - might be better if they had less and learned to value what they do have.

aloha · 09/12/2004 09:48

I strongly recommend you get some friends with poorer parents! At least half my friends are far more worried about funding their parents' old age than they are about being funded by them. It does put things in perspective and make you feel less resentful. Of course I'd like a lovely windfall and fantasise about winning the lottery - I'm as venal as the next gal - but there you are. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by a bad area. I live in SE London, but we like it!

PamiNativity · 09/12/2004 09:54

SQ, I know, I am very lucky. My dad has worked his socks off for what he has, and still works full time at 65. Last week he had a full-on business trip to China and the Far East. I think he regrets not being around for us when we were children and is trying to make up for it with his grandchildren instead (he has already been to more sports days/Christmas shows for our dds than he ever managed for my brother and me). I'm not suggesting that his money can in any way make up for him not being around much when I was younger, but he viewed his role very much as the old fashioned provider, which was typical of his generation.

DickWhittingtonsCat · 09/12/2004 09:56

tootle, have you thought about making an effort to get on better with them as a way of softening them up!? Normally the major thing that makes the older generation share their hard earned money is love! My xp's family don't have the time of day for ds, and, frankly, if they were old, decrepit and destitute, I would not share more than a cup of water with them in the future. OTOH, my parents always been very generous, and if in the future they needed anything (ranging from a full-time nurse, accommodation in my home, to new boiler, shirt off my back, etc) I would not think twice about sharing my own savings with them. Would you be prepared to share your savings with your inlaws if they spent their savings travelling and then their house was destroyed in a flood for example?

serenequeen · 09/12/2004 10:19

pamina sweetie, if they are able and willing to help you out, that's wonderful! Smile i'm extremely lucky but can't help the odd venal thought or fantasy either!

MariNativityPlay · 09/12/2004 11:04

I think what they do for you is wonderful, Pamina, but you are a great daughter to them, so it's a classic example of generosity being built on a tradition of love and affection. TBH that's what I really envy, in the nicest possible way - the interest in your dds that your mum and dad can and do take because they live nearby. My mum and dad are over 300 miles away and we all miss them desperately, and they miss us.
I expect MIL will provide for ds and dd in her will, she has hinted as such, and that's very generous of her, but to be quite frank I'd happily forego any or all of it in exchange for a real, spontaneous interest in them NOW. :(

PamiNativity · 09/12/2004 11:20

Aw, Marina, you've made me blush! As you know, we also have PIL miles away who would like to be more involved, so I know some of what you are going through. I guess there's no chance your parents could move closer to you?

MariNativityPlay · 09/12/2004 11:23

They cannot afford to, Pamina. They did well out of moving to the north in terms of housing, but the markets now mean they couldn't afford a house or even a reasonably sized flat within walking distance of us Shock.
They do also have access to less pressurised health and social services facilities, and that means I worry less about their health and wellbeing.

PamiNativity · 09/12/2004 11:50

What a pity Marina. But a plus on the healthcare side. Life's never simple, eh?

Berchta · 09/12/2004 19:09

ionce had toask mymum for 4k to stopmy house being reposessed. she had the money but said no. and my house was reposessed

it cut me up for ages and still stings but then i think - its her money i am not automatically entitled to it or to think i am in any way. she didnt work for whats shes got she got it becuase my dad died when i was 4 and she has lived a very meagre existance not knowing what the future held as she brought a child up on her own as a widow.

i can understand this - i can understand after years of saving and not spending or scrimping and not letting anything go to waste that when your kid moves out its a lifetime habit to break and think - fuck it am off to the caribbean is about as hard as murder to my mum.

am really sorry but any money they have is not yours by right. by your own admission your doin ok your kid doesnt go without, you can afford to stay at home - i never had that choice. i think you need to re think your feelings on this one.

Kaz33 · 09/12/2004 19:38

Reading this thread has been fascinating and I realise how lucky I am that I will never have to fund my parents old age as they are asset rich and my dad is still earning good money.

No doubt I will get a substantial inheritance and yes I do expect to receive some money. They love their grandchildren and do help out and give them money as pressies to be invested ( about £500 per year ) which is great.

But they are very career and success orientated. They are not the sort of parents who are always avaliable for babysitting ( they live 10 minutes away ), not the sort of dad who would help you tile your bathroom in your first flat. I suppose I have always hankered after the sort of parents who put their kids first and certainly my brother have struggled with our upbringing and the legacy it has left in us for a long time.

I suppose I view my inheritance as a pay off for our very unparental parents Wink

posyhairdresser · 13/01/2005 12:36

My inlaws are similar - disapproving of how we spend our money and do not help us at all eg no babysitting (although they live in the same town)and any presents are low in value and often frankly odd!

They are in good health and are a lot better off than we are (they have a nice 5 bed house for just the 2 of them)although still not rolling in it exactly...

They think that they have done their time as parents and that now their son should now be paying them back with help and financial assistance, and not the other way round.

I don't really understand their attitude, but I have got used to it - luckily my parents are not the same at all. I think it takes all sorts and they are not bad people, just not much help to my family. I don't offer much help to them either and concentrate on helping my own parents - what goes around comes around!

I can't imagine I will take a lot of trouble with my inlaws if they fall upon harder times so I guess these things work both ways.

karlhavoc2024 · 12/04/2024 22:16

how about because you want to be a decent human being and want to see your immediate family healthy and happy and NOT struggle JUST because YOU did. So many selfish, tightwad, money grubbing people who could part with substantial sums and not be affected in their daily life, vacation plans, retirement plans or any of that in any way whatsoever. That's not "responsible money management" or "watching your pennies", it's being a greedy selfish a

SkaneTos · 12/04/2024 22:18

@karlhavoc2024
This thread is around 20 years old.

karlhavoc2024 · 12/04/2024 22:22

SkaneTos · 12/04/2024 22:18

@karlhavoc2024
This thread is around 20 years old.

great. i'm venting and know what year it is. thanks for the heads up i guess,,,

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