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Trying to explain poppies to 3 year old

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Twiglett · 11/11/2004 17:28

told him you wear them to remember heroes

he thinks you wear them to remember hercules and the titans

.. do you think I need to re-phrase it .. and how

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fio2 · 11/11/2004 17:32

that it was to remmebr our grandads who fought and died for us in the war?

I remebered my own grandads today actually. especially the one, there were some old gents pinning poppies to people and selling crosses and I could just see him there smiling....have had a weird day

Twiglett · 11/11/2004 17:36

its the 'fought and died for us' bit that I'm trying to avoid to be honest .. I think he's a little young for that kind of history lesson

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WigWamBam · 11/11/2004 17:43

I've told my 3.5yo daughter that we wear them to remember some very brave things that some real-life people did a long time ago so that other people could be safe and happy. She seems satisfied with that, and at the moment it's all she needs to know.

bakedpotato · 11/11/2004 17:44

she noticed it and said it was pretty. i said it was for soldiers. thank goodness we then moved on to topic of biscuits

posyhairdresser · 11/11/2004 17:45

To celebrate bravery?

bundle · 11/11/2004 18:07

i said it was to remember soldiers. dh started on about courage and fighting for your country..i said shhh that's too complicated
as we go past people in the street dd1 whispers

Twiglett · 11/11/2004 18:42

...and last night ...

.. and last night???

... hey bundle, what happened last night??????

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bundle · 11/11/2004 18:45

oops that bit slipped off!

last night....she asked me why the people in Iraq were fighting!!!!!!

aloha · 11/11/2004 18:50

It's to help us remember very brave people?

blueteddy · 11/11/2004 18:56

I explained the reason 4 poppies 2 my 5 yr old ds last week.
I told him that we have poppies 2 remember the brave men that helped 2 save our country a long time ago.
He had a sticker when he returned home from school on Tuesday, as he was the only 1 in the class who could explain why we wear poppies!

fio2 · 11/11/2004 18:57

well my one grandad was 16 and my other was 18 and they went and risked their lives, not knowing, I suppose wht they let themselves in for. i call that brave....

or am I getting too serious

candy · 11/11/2004 19:00

My now 7 yr old was in debenhams with me about 2 yrs ago when they had their 1 minute silence for Armistace day. She STILL asks me everytime we go in there if she needs to be quiet today!

carla · 11/11/2004 19:06

6yo dd asked 'why poppies?'. I know they grew in Flanders, but not at this time of the year, surely? I was stumped.

nasa · 11/11/2004 19:11

carla I don't think it's to do with the time of year!

GeorginaA · 11/11/2004 19:22

carla - I think it's something to do with the way poppies germinate - the seeds can lie dormant for years. In world war I, in Flanders the earth got so churned up that when it was all over, the poppies grew and bloomed - making the fields seem blood red.

At least that's how the story was told to me

Twiglett · 11/11/2004 21:46

The poppies are worn because in World War One the Western Front contained in the soil thousands of poppy seeds, all lying dormant. They would have lain there for years more, but the battles being fought there churned up the soil so much that the poppies bloomed like never before. The most famous bloom of poppies in the war was in Ypres, a town in Flanders, Belgium, which was crucial to the Allied defence. There were three battles there, but it was the second, which was calamitous to the allies since it heralded the first use of the new chlorine gas the Germans were experimenting with, which brought forth the poppies in greatest abundance, and inspired the Canadian soldier, Major John McCrae, to write his most famous poem. This, in turn, inspired the British Legion to adopt the poppy as their emblem.

In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

John McCrae (1872 - 1918)

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carla · 11/11/2004 22:01

, Twiglett!!! I think that post is the first one that has convinced DH (ex Army) that we're not a bunch of bored housewives!!! Well done you I had to show him (normally keep all posts under cover) and he was really (would do bold if I'd worked it out yet) impressed. XXXXX

Twiglett · 11/11/2004 22:03

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carla · 11/11/2004 22:10

Won't tell ! And thanks for the poem!

wordsmith · 11/11/2004 22:46

We have a war memorial in our local park and my ds1 (age 4 and 3 quarters) always asks me what it is and what it's for. It's really hard to tell him without him focusing on the fighting and dying bit, you know what boys are like at that age. Also the kids next door have a dad who's mad keen on planes and has lots of pics of spitfires, so he's told them (and my ds1) all about how they were used in the war and fighting the Germans and so on. ds1 is really interested, but know wants to know if we all hate the Germans and why, and why we hated them then if we don't hate them now, and I'm having to say things like "We didn't hate them, it's just that the people in charge of our country argued with the people in charge of Germany.... anyway it was along long time ago...." etc. I tell you it makes you see what a bloody stupid waste of time war is if it takes this long to explain it to a 4 year old.

Anyway I'm taking him on Sunday to the service of remembrance in the park and have bought him a poppy to wear. It will be interesting to see what he makes of it.

Anyone else got any ideas on how to tell kids all about war in a language they'll understand?

PS Lovely poem Twiglett, even if you did crib it! Here are some from Wilfred Owen if you want some more.

TwoIfBySea · 11/11/2004 22:50

Twiglett I told ds twins (nearly 3 yrs) the same thing! They are a bit young to explain fully without going to far into it!

So the heroes theme seemed to work quite well for them!

wordsmith · 11/11/2004 22:51

....plus I had to explain to him that Spitfires were the British planes, not the German ones. So now he can pronounce Messerschmitt properly, which I think is pretty good for a 4 year old.

hatter · 11/11/2004 23:07

I didn't have much of a problem explaining ww2 - it's ww1 I struggle with - it just seems so much more complex and, although my history is poor, so much more pointless.

Flum · 12/11/2004 17:09

Are you not sposed to tell children that people die then? What happens if you do? I told my friends child when she asked me about poppies, that it was for brave people who died in the wars and she was fine about that, said it was sad, then carried on colouring in. She's three.

I mean what if someone you know dies, what do you say then?

KateandtheGirls · 12/11/2004 18:05

Of course children should be told the truth about dying. Mine had to learn early unfortunately. But I wouldn't want to explain wars and fighting at such a young age.