Keep your filthy disgusting cats at home!

[SelkieQualia]

My 3yo son just ran across my front lawn and jumped in the car. On the way, he's trodden in cat poo ( there's a regular offender, and no, it's not fox ). There's now cat poo all across the back seat of my car. I'm first trimester, and horrified at the prospect of toxoplasma, even though I know the risk is low.

This is on the background of my aracuana chicks being stolen by cats from my own back yard. I don't care how lazy you think your cat is - research has shown that even the most placid cat will kill 2-3 animals per night if allowed to roam.

Keep them locked up ffs! If you can't keep them inside, make a run. If you can't do that, keep rabbits instead.

I'm sure you've had the die hard cat lovers rip you to shreds, but I agree.
I can't leave my back door open because the fuckkng neighbours cat comes in and eats my dogs food. I've also found it on my kids bed twice. There are loads here, and they sit in my garden, my neighbour had to dig up her flower beds at the front of the house because the little fuckers had been burying their shot for ages. They only realised because of the smell. They are out screeching and fighting at night ALL THE TIME!

@UsernameNotValid what part of this are you struggling with? It's not that the owner doesn't care, it's that she allows her cat it's basic freedom to roam. In many cases it's cruel to deny them of this. It doesn't make her an uncaring owner. What do you actually suggest that she can do to monitor her cat while it's out and about?

You have to share the planet with many different species. Accept it.

It's the "what do you expect me to do?" attitude whilst complaining that her poor moggy is being frightened by the neighbours dog when it enters its territory

That makes no sense. You're either happy for it to roam and shit elsewhere and deal with anything that happens when you're not there or you keep tabs on it.

Do one or the other, fine, but don't complain when it's being chased off.

I think op needs to find a safe space and have a little sit down

@UsernameNotValid

It's the "what do you expect me to do?" attitude whilst complaining that her poor moggy is being frightened by the neighbours dog when it enters its territory

That makes no sense. You're either happy for it to roam and shit elsewhere and deal with anything that happens when you're not there or you keep tabs on it.

Do one or the other, fine, but don't complain when it's being chased off.

A dog Chasing a cat away is not the same as it attacking one. .

I should also add that neighbours dog is a tiny Jack Russell who is the friendliest little thing and never makes a sound except when it's (presumably) protecting its territory from cats which is what dogs do 🤷‍♀️

Which is my point regarding this specific cat owner... You can't complain about a dog yapping at your cat and frightening it off when you let it out knowing it goes there and warn off any question of deterrent.

Yes. Let's lock up all cats because that's not cruel at all.

Let's also stop dogs going for walks in parks as I bloody hate the mess they make and how dangerous more dangeorus than cats their poo is to children. Plus I don't really like dogs.

Oh wait I'm not a dick and it's not all about me.

@Scaraffito

What about children who play loudly in gardens? Should they be locked up too?

If they start playing in gardens other than their own then you probably would contact someone. If it's in their own garden, then not sure of the comparison with cats- in their own garden I'm sure most other people don't care where they shit.

Because their screams when they play can be heard in neighbouring gardens and considered annoying. Just like cat poo.

I don’t think I have ever stood in cat poo, but I have sure stood in a lot of dog poo in my time as has my kids in the local parks yikes

@CleverCatty

shesgonebatshitagain - the thing is - finding people who harm cats or proving it - as in the case where someone actually got hold of someone's cat and poured something down it's throat.

DuaneBenziesvoice - what do you mean the 'whataboutery' on this thread from cat owners? The cat owners in this respect are only trying to suggest remedies or reasons as to why their cats who are pets act this way. It's not like we are picking up our cats and plonking them in non cat owners gardens and making them shit there!

Oh come on, my comment was nothing to do with suggestions/remedies or whatever.

OP: "I'm sick of cats shitting in my garden and my child standing in it"

Cat Owners: "Well what about dogs?" "Humans are worse than cats" " Yeah but what about rats/foxes/badgers?" "Well dogs attack sheep!" "People don't pick up after their dogs though" etc.

@UsernameNotValid if my cat was barked at by a dog or shooed away by someone I wouldn't give a shit. You have to accept some level of risk to an unsupervised animal if you're letting it out. I've had a cat get run over, incredibly upsetting but better to take that risk than subject the animal to a miserable existence indoors in my opinion.

If someone viciously attacked him or hurt him in any way then it would be a different story.

It’s very odd that people think it’s ok to unleash an animal literally designed to kill birds (YES! They DO) on their neighbours’ gardens. It’s so sad, all the little birds being killed.

What dogs do doesn’t make cats butchering the bird life ok!

If you owned a dog and it mauled or killed a cat in your back garden - as recent legislative chances include your home and not just public spaces etc - your dog would in all probability be classed as out of control. You as an owner could face a fine or worse.

Not true. Only applies if a human is attacked not another animal. Or is a cat dangerously out of control when it kills a bird?

A few cats have been killed locally by farm dogs over the years it's a risk you take if you let it roam.

Not true. Only applies if a human is attacked not another animal.

That bit's not quite true either.

To be dangerously out of control, another human must be actually hurt by a dog or be reasonably fearful they might be hurt, including when their pet is under attack and they reasonably fear they will get harmed if they intervene.

I strongly suspect this law would not be applied in the context of a dog attacking a cat in it's own garden. Not least because the cat's owner is not present and so cannot reasonably fear they will themselves be harmed.

I completely agree!

Owners apparently can't control where their cat goes as they are free spirited but at the same time are outraged if someone feeds cat or even if the 'free to roam' cat decides to stay with another family - surely they must have bribed him with food or locked him in

Because their screams when they play can be heard in neighbouring gardens and considered annoying. Just like cat poo
Are you seriously comparing hearing a scream vs finding cat poo in your garden?? The scream is annoying, it is not dirty, it is not a health risk, it lasts a second and then is gone, it doesn't smell...
A more accurate comparison would be if the neighbour's kids were shitting in your garden. For some reason I suspect you would mind.

@LastGoldenDaysOfSummer

If you owned a dog and it mauled or killed a cat in your back garden - as recent legislative chances include your home and not just public spaces etc - your dog would in all probability be classed as out of control. You as an owner could face a fine or worse.

Not true. Only applies if a human is attacked not another animal. Or is a cat dangerously out of control when it kills a bird?

A few cats have been killed locally by farm dogs over the years it's a risk you take if you let it roam.

I think you will find this is the precise wording

Out of control
Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

injures someone
makes someone worried that it might injure them
A court could also decide that your dog is dangerously out of control if either of the following apply:

it attacks someone’s animal
the owner of an animal thinks they could be injured if they tried to stop your dog attacking their animal

Note the “it attacks someone else’s animal”

[quote UsernameNotValid]@shesgonebatshitagain cat spikes are perfectly legal and cause discomfort and difficulty when said on not injury so anyone who lets their animal roam freely without ensuring their safety is welcome to try to take "action" 😊[/quote]
Cat spikes don't work. Cats are far too intelligent.

Was just reading that funnily enough, looks like it'll be wire top fencing angled to prevent climbing.

My cats are dirty bastards and no mistake.

So cute though.

I’ve given my neighbours a water pistol.

Cat poo is absolutely disgusting and reeks and the thought of them pooing in the house all the time makes me feel sick. People with cats should be told to pick up their poo outside in the same way that people with dogs should.

Why are cats the only pets that are allowed to roam free, and its considered perfectly fine and dandy?

@Sweetk0987poiu

Absolutely agree. I have a house cat .. cats lives 17+ years indoors whereas cats who aren’t on average live 2-5 years. They’re not an animal who can survive very long in populated areas yet it seems to be just fine! Weird to me! Annoyingly we have cats constantly shit in our garden! Not even our own 😫😫

It's usually Americans who trot out these indoor/outdoor cat statistics. In the UK we don't have coyotes etc. and the vast majority of indoor/outdoor cats live full lives. I have had 19 cats. All have spent their days outside and their nights inside - and I have only lost one under the age of 15 years, and that was to renal disease. Not one of my cats has died as a consequence of being allowed to roam, and some of my cats lived in London with me for 17 years.