Keep your filthy disgusting cats at home!

[SelkieQualia]

My 3yo son just ran across my front lawn and jumped in the car. On the way, he's trodden in cat poo ( there's a regular offender, and no, it's not fox ). There's now cat poo all across the back seat of my car. I'm first trimester, and horrified at the prospect of toxoplasma, even though I know the risk is low.

This is on the background of my aracuana chicks being stolen by cats from my own back yard. I don't care how lazy you think your cat is - research has shown that even the most placid cat will kill 2-3 animals per night if allowed to roam.

Keep them locked up ffs! If you can't keep them inside, make a run. If you can't do that, keep rabbits instead.

@Heyahun

cat’s are free to roam - you don’t have to keep them locked up and shouldn’t! Foxes are wild and you have no problem with them

How do you know it wasn’t dog poop? Cats tend to cover theirs up!

You need to get over yourself tbh

Oh God! Another one in denial claiming that cats cover their shit. They don't! We regularly have piles of cat poo on our lawn. The cat makes no attempt at all to cover it.

Your POV re keeping cats at home. Cats like to roam and anywhere apart from their own home and garden - my three (separate cats apart from two) always wandered apart from the female who was mostly in my house and garden.

What's really interesting is I live next door to two families with children - there have been babies born one side who are now kids but I've never heard them complain or say anything about cat shit to me - they actually have a visiting cat who visits them and also my garden now who they like. On the other side they actually got their own cat but then moved not very far from us - to a house opposite a huge park.

In fact even though I have no cat now I don't notice cat shit at all in my garden.

I'll say this though - locally to me - the next small town down - on their forum I recently saw one cat owner had had to rush their cat to the vet who'd had disinfectant or bleach poured down it's throat and was now fighting for it's life - presumably a cat hater doing this - not saying you'd do this but there are obviously sickos around who would do that.

You disagree with the law OP. Perhaps you should focus your energy on getting the right of cats to roam freely revoked. I don't think you'll be very successful but if it makes you feel better then go for it. Most people accept that outside there will be poo be it from foxes, birds, cats or whatever.

I visited a woman who 3 of the things said they were really clean and I couldn't get out of their quick enough - cat urine is disgusting, then there is the hair and the fleas - shudder - no idea why she couldn't smell it, see the mess or fleas - probably got so used to it she didn't realise how unclean it was.

WomenAndVulvas - I live in Camberwell South London, a very built up area, there are cats everywhere. The poor little sods never live long, but that doesn't stop the other twats from letting their cats out. Never underestimate the stupidity of idiots.

there!

@Somuchroom

Just for clarity. Do the cat owners who allow their cats to roam freely feel that people who have house cats are in some way cruel? I seem to get that impression.

Our neighbour has a cat and he tries to come into our house constantly to the extent I can’t have windows open. He is riddled with fleas poor thing. I hope he isn’t shitting in our garden! Got some good tips to try from this thread. I remember my mum when I was little losing her head one morning, opening the back door and lobbing potatoes down the garden at a cat. Not her finest moment.

I personally don't think that people who have house cats are cruel - some people live near busy roads and cars kill cats - makes sense if cats are house cats, some cats are also pedigree (friend got half Siamese/Burmese kittens in lockdown) so makes more sense these are kept in so they're not stolen.

Some cats actually don't like to go out much or like my female cat rarely go out of their own garden - she rarely did, my friend's DCat also female, goes onto her balcony into neighbouring gardens a little bit but generally stays in her own 'area'.

For those who say cats shit everywhere - as far as I know mine didn't as I had litter boxes and they used them on a regular basis - they might have weed elsewhere but shat less.

Sweetk0987poiu - there was a cat watching documentary I think on recently (look on iplayer) about cats and how and where they roamed. Some didn't roam at all, one in particular roamed a very wide area - the owners were shocked! What was even funnier was how many cats went into other houses and stole other cats food!

I would say if you do have a dog - most cats hate them - stay away from them - neighbour has a mini-pinscher and says cats never come into her garden! In fact my old cat used to hide if he saw the neighbours next door dog sitting and when other neighbours with 2 cats got a Schnauzer - their DCats weren't impressed - one eventually moved out completely and the other avoids the house a lot now!

@DillonPanthersTexas

shesgonebatshitagain

Equally, I have been in enough houses where you can smell the presence of cats before you even see them. Most people don't have the space you have so litter trays tend to be in the corner of the kitchen and believe me when moggy is taking a dump you most definitely smell it.

I like both cats and dogs but I have to agree with some of the comments here that observe that cat owners have a massive blind spot when it comes to accepting criticism as to how their pets behave. My neighbour has cats, they roam, often into my house where they climb through open windows on a hot day. I have found them curled up on my bed, I have caught them using the side of my new sofa as a scratching post, they have shat in my flower beds and left half dead birds on the doorstep. It took a concerted campaign of using ultra sound deterrents and water pistols to stop them from using my property as a playground. Even had the neighbour complain one time when I soaked her cat with the hose when it was teeing itself up to take a shit. She just took the line that I hated cats because I objected to them in my home. Her excuse of "they are cats, what am I supposed to do" was just feeble.

I don’t have a blind spot with how my cats behave I can well believe your comments but they don’t personally insult me as they don’t apply to me. That sort of thing is often indicative of other issues beyond cat piss

@tillytown

tillytown Mon 12-Oct-20 10:13:28
WomenAndVulvas - I live in Camberwell South London, a very built up area, there are cats everywhere. The poor little sods never live long, but that doesn't stop the other twats from letting their cats out. Never underestimate the stupidity of idiots.

Why on earth do people keep getting them if they get run over? I'm assuming that's what happens to them. There are posts on local FB pages about missing cats - help find them - I assume they have wandered into the road and been hit - one of the natural consequences of allowing them to roam I suppose

You need to treat your lawn with something that puts cats off & wear gloves when cleaning the poo up.

Apart from that, no, I won't be keeping my cat in and neither will other cat owners, nor should we.

End of, really.

@EachPeachPearSums

You disagree with the law OP. Perhaps you should focus your energy on getting the right of cats to roam freely revoked. I don't think you'll be very successful but if it makes you feel better then go for it. Most people accept that outside there will be poo be it from foxes, birds, cats or whatever.

Actually, that's not a bad idea. I'm in Australia, where cat curfews are not unheard of.

Some people don't want cat poo in their garden

Some people? Who are these weirdos that WANT cat poo in their garden?

The whataboutary on this thread from cat owners is astounding.

It's very amusing that some posters have displayed photos of their cats very specifically not shitting in gardens, just to prove how clean they are. As if you will be won over by their cuteness and from now on be happy to tolerate them turning your lawn into a cesspit

Be careful about those cat sensors, OP, if you decide to invest in them. There are a quite a few in our area, which appears to be almost entirely populated by cats who reluctantly tolerate humans living in their area. Every time we walk by the sensors, my two DS's (12 and 8) can't stand the high pitched noise - which I can't hear because obviously I am old. So I imagine if they were in a garden where children play, it could be very irritating for them.

I like cats, but I too am sick of finding their crap in my garden.

I find it astounding that some people genuinely believe it's ok to treat an innocent animal with such contempt. Throwing things at them is cruel. Do you not care if you hurt them? I dislike spiders but I don't kill them just for being in my house.

In life, things will annoy you. It could be a shitting cat, a barking dog, a noisy neighbour. It's not ok morally or legally to go around attacking and vilifying these things. By all means take reasonable steps to stop it happening but pick your battles ffs and accept we inhabit an earth where animals will live and behave like animals!

The comparisons to dogs and cats are idiotic also.

Shit is part of life, op, and you're going to have to live with that.

[quote UsernameNotValid]@shesgonebatshitagain I've discussed it with my adjoining neighbours and thankfully they are fully on board. Of the 3, I'm the humane one so they don't care at all.

I wouldn't/couldn't hurt an animal but thankfully the cat owner who doesn't give a shit (no pun intended) is separated by a pathway so has no say in the matter.

Just like the OP has been told, if her pet gets injured - which isn't my intention - the owner should've been more responsible with her pet 😊[/quote]
That’s good that you are in agreement

However it is no defence in law to say it is the owner’s irresponsibility that might cause a cat to be injured. It of course might be but to be quite so glib about anything that might happen to a cat on your property that causes a cat to come to harm or be injured while there is potentially foolish. Cats are exempt from the Animal Act and have right to roam.

You must not do anything to harm a cat. That definition you will note is not exhaustive.

Under the Protection of Animals Act 1911 it is also a criminal offence to ill-treat any animal. It is also a criminal offence under the Protection of Animals Act 1911 and the Animal Welfare Act 2006 to administer poison, dangerous drugs or substances to an animal; and under the Animal Welfare Act 2005 it is a criminal offence to allow a cat to suffer unnecessarily.

So while this might not include your mutually agreed and well sign posted lawfully installed cat spikes it also may not if all the conditions are not met or something else directly or indirectly should happen on your property as a result.

Sweetk0987poiu - there was a cat watching documentary I think on recently (look on iplayer) about cats and how and where they roamed. Some didn't roam at all, one in particular roamed a very wide area - the owners were shocked! What was even funnier was how many cats went into other houses and stole other cats food!

@CleverCatty yes Also many cats do not roam anywhere near as much Especially after neutering

@shesgonebatshitagain, I get it. These precious beings should be allowed to shit over my garden and trash the plants without obstruction because the owner doesn't care enough to take note of her own pet.

I'm allergic to them, I don't want them anywhere near.

If it just so happens to brush against plants which are toxic to it or it gets swiped by a dog who lives here then there's not much I can do to prevent that.

But I digress.

Not my pet. Not my problem.

A cat shit thread sure brings out some horrible people.

shesgonebatshitagain - the thing is - finding people who harm cats or proving it - as in the case where someone actually got hold of someone's cat and poured something down it's throat.

DuaneBenziesvoice - what do you mean the 'whataboutery' on this thread from cat owners? The cat owners in this respect are only trying to suggest remedies or reasons as to why their cats who are pets act this way. It's not like we are picking up our cats and plonking them in non cat owners gardens and making them shit there!

@UsernameNotValid

www.gov.uk/control-dog-public

If you owned a dog and it mauled or killed a cat in your back garden - as recent legislative chances include your home and not just public spaces etc - your dog would in all probability be classed as out of control. You as an owner could face a fine or worse.

So whilst it might not be your pet it certainly could be your problem

I wouldn't ever intentionally hurt any animal (except insects - can't deal with those!) and would take one to the vet should i see one hurt but how can we help it if we have plants that happen to be poisonous or another animal (doing what animals do) becomes territorial on its own property?

If we had a cat it would be indoors for its own safety as well as consideration.

We had bad cat problem in our garden - veg beds often getting used as toilets.

Lockdown arrived - bought a cheap catapult and a bad of bird peanuts. Kids given a quick briefing and demonstration - within a week or so cats no longer visit.